Question about some of the free audio content

Hi, sharke. Are they glitching at their native tempos? If not then (as you probably know) it'd be more a case of bad splits. I don't know if Rex files are one of the ones that can be edited in the  Loop Constructor (pretty sure they are but it's easy enough to convert them to the proper format).
 
It's just a matter of dragging them into the LC and and manually moving/adding splits so they appear right at the transients. Then they'll stretch properly without artifacts (or less of them anyway).
 
If they aren't playing properly at their native tempos then yeah... that's different. Admittedly I haven't spent a lot of time working with the loop content but they mostly seem alright at native tempo BUT some of the ends/starts are a little crunchy. That, in theory, could be corrected with some fades processed into the files.
 
Again... you probably already know all this (better than I do). Posting just in case you overlooked it.
 
Cheers.

Geist will open rx2 files. For the percussive ones, you can use Geist to pull all samples into a kit and fire them as you see fit without issues.
 
However, for the vocal ones, some parts are salvageable, and others are not. Using the one that you posted in the other thread as an example (KV_KULDEEPAN_M_PHRAS_5_D_85.rx2), in addition to the pops/clicks on that which are fairly easy to fix, there is also transient "pulsing" between the slices (almost like the slices are intentionally pinching to zero amplitude before the next slice marker). That first long section that is sliced into 3 slices should all be consistent volume, but was pinched when sliced. I do not know a way to repair that that one (but possibly the Propellerheads' ReCycle might work... but that does not seem "stretched," but rather "pinched").

mettelus
However, for the vocal ones, some parts are salvageable, and others are not. Using the one that you posted in the other thread as an example (KV_KULDEEPAN_M_PHRAS_5_D_85.rx2), in addition to the pops/clicks on that which are fairly easy to fix, there is also transient "pulsing" between the slices (almost like the slices are intentionally pinching to zero amplitude before the next slice marker).

I tried to repair this file using the procedure referenced previously with ReCycle, and it works fine. When you hear things like "pulsing" between slices or echoes, that means the Stretch control in ReCycle was set too high, with the tradeoff being that if you set it too low, then the transition between slices becomes jarring.
 
REX files are really not meant for this kind of material; acidization is.

Sanderxpander
Sorry if I'm misunderstanding, but as this is essentially not free content but part of the Sonar package, shouldn't this work be done by Cake and delivered in an update? It seems like they just made a mistake.

AFAIK the Loopmasters stuff was developed by a third party and included as bonus content. It's also quite old now (I got it with X1... it might even predate that).

Sanderxpander
Sorry if I'm misunderstanding, but as this is essentially not free content but part of the Sonar package, shouldn't this work be done by Cake and delivered in an update? It seems like they just made a mistake.

That content was done by third parties, and is presented as delivered. I did ask Noel whether it was possible to strip out the REX transient markers but it's not, nor can you strip out Stretch and other ReCycle settings - they're baked into the file. Of course if you did strip out the markers they wouldn't stretch, so they would need to be acidized. 
 
Doing proper acidization of any file is time-consuming enough, but if Cakewalk was to repair all these files in ReCycle, then export, import into SONAR, and acidize the files, that would be a major task which would take a lot of hours, and SONAR's price would need to reflect that. Those files have been in SONAR forever; I don't know what the exact business deal was, but I suspect they didn't add anything to the price.

Anderton

mettelus
However, for the vocal ones, some parts are salvageable, and others are not. Using the one that you posted in the other thread as an example (KV_KULDEEPAN_M_PHRAS_5_D_85.rx2), in addition to the pops/clicks on that which are fairly easy to fix, there is also transient "pulsing" between the slices (almost like the slices are intentionally pinching to zero amplitude before the next slice marker).

I tried to repair this file using the procedure referenced previously with ReCycle, and it works fine. When you hear things like "pulsing" between slices or echoes, that means the Stretch control in ReCycle was set too high, with the tradeoff being that if you set it too low, then the transition between slices becomes jarring.
 
REX files are really not meant for this kind of material; acidization is.

Do you think this is something I could do in Audition? I used Audition (the heal function)  to "sort of" fix another of the samples and it worked OK, although not ideal. It didn't work so well on the one I referenced however. 
 
Part of the problem of that sample is the awful stereo effect - it sounds a lot better with just one of the channels put through the Waves Doubler. 

Ok, well I guess then it's just a terrible commercial for a company calling itself "Loopmasters".

Paul P

sharke
Do you think this is something I could do in Audition? I used Audition (the heal function)  to "sort of" fix another of the samples and it worked OK, although not ideal. It didn't work so well on the one I referenced however.

How did you get an rx2 file to load in Audition, or did you render it in Sonar or something first ?
 
I just read that rx2 files use some proprietary encryption/compression so wouldn't expect them to be readable by an editor other than ReCycle.

I just bounced them to a wav and then loaded them into Audition. However my ham fisted attempts with Audition's heal tool were not a match for Craig's handiwork!
 

Anderton
 
REX files are really not meant for this kind of material; acidization is.

I need to hunt down the post you made about REX vs Acidized at some point and read that again. After seeing the before/after on these files, rx2 is rather scary - but I am not sure why they stuck transient markers in the middle of a sound without obvious transients either. Perhaps this set is just a fluke (i.e., operator error or bad discretion).

...and I just remembered this "Tip of the Week" may be exactly what you want.