Chris S
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Question for CD burning experts
I think I need real experts on this:
I am having readability problems on disks burned recently. I've tried three different burners, two different media, and multiple software apps.
My Onkyo DX-c390 will scan the disks then not play them, reporting correct total time on display while the Sony player in the car has no problem.
Nothing wrong with the Onkyo, it plays older CDs, CD-Rs etc with no problem (it is not an old player).
I have also ruled out CD length and whether CD Text is added.
I have gone through everything I can think of, please help.
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CJaysMusic
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Re:Question for CD burning experts
2011/01/03 17:26:06
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Are these disk that your burning being burned to Red Book Specs?
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Chris S
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Re:Question for CD burning experts
2011/01/03 17:38:43
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I usually use Sound Forge Pro 10 with strict red book specs checked, however I like them longer then 74 mins sometimes.
I have already checked the length idea. Player will play CD-Rs that are above 74 minutes long fine.
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Re:Question for CD burning experts
2011/01/03 17:48:02
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Yea, the length wouldn't do what your describing. If the length was too long, it wouldn't burn to the disk.
Are you burning an image to the drive and then burning that image to your CD. It should be an option under the CD burning. This way it will check the image for any defects before burning it to your CD
Cj
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Kalle Rantaaho
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Re:Question for CD burning experts
2011/01/04 04:27:43
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Your description has some holes:
You've used three different burners - is that CD/DVD-drives in computers or bookshelf machines or standalone workstations?
Did these drives play back the burned CDs, despite of with which software they werer burned? And so did the player in your car?
If they did, it must be the Onkyo that is malfunctioning. For some reason it has started to reject some discs. Could it be the "hidden" data in the discs causes this??? There is data about file creation day etc., isn't there? What else is there?
In the early days of CD-players some of them could not play discs with blue surface, for example, so there are lots of options for them to fail.
And you didn't accidentally buy audio-CD-Rs which might be incompatible with the Onkyo? I guess your burning software would have informed you about that....
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Re:Question for CD burning experts
2011/01/04 09:59:29
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What speed are you burning at? You might try burning at the lowest possible speed on the burner drive and see if that makes a difference.
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Re:Question for CD burning experts
2011/01/04 11:09:53
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I would first try a different CDR
Then try playing in as many CD decks as possible.
If not then it's your software not set up properly.
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Chris S
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Re:Question for CD burning experts
2011/01/05 12:20:27
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Kalle Rantaaho
Your description has some holes:
You've used three different burners - is that CD/DVD-drives in computers or bookshelf machines or standalone workstations?
Did these drives play back the burned CDs, despite of with which software they werer burned? And so did the player in your car?
If they did, it must be the Onkyo that is malfunctioning. For some reason it has started to reject some discs. Could it be the "hidden" data in the discs causes this??? There is data about file creation day etc., isn't there? What else is there?
In the early days of CD-players some of them could not play discs with blue surface, for example, so there are lots of options for them to fail.
And you didn't accidentally buy audio-CD-Rs which might be incompatible with the Onkyo? I guess your burning software would have informed you about that....
The burners I am referring to are: HP cd/dvd burner (dvd1070), LiteOn (iHAS424), and the HP slimtype burner in my laptop. They are all internal, computer burners and the LiteOn is brand new since I originally thought that it was my burner that was the problem. I have disks by the very same manufacturer, burned in the very same drive that will play just fine in both CD players. Let me repeat since some people can't get this: disks are not the problem, drive is not the problem, player is not the problem. I am getting nothing but questions here, no answers.
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Kalle Rantaaho
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Re:Question for CD burning experts
2011/01/05 12:37:31
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If discs, drives and players are OK, then you're fine, because the software isn't the problem either, if you know how to burn discs (and you obviously know, cause you've burned playable ones).
"I'm getting nothing but questions here..." C'MOOON"
Could you possibly e-mail your Onkyo to the repair shop?
Most of us are not even in the same country and you expect us to repair your hardware??
If I've understood correctly, your Onkyo is the ONLY player that refuses to play your CDs, and you're SURE there's nothing wrong with it ????
How have you eliminated the player (Onkyo) as a possible culprit? I wouldn't be sure the fact that it plays CDs you've burnt earlier is the answer.
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Re:Question for CD burning experts
2011/01/05 14:05:16
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I just looked up the manual for the Onkyo DX-c390. Its an older unit from 2003. It probably cannot handle reading CDs burned at the higher speeds that burners can now achieve.
Also, it says in the manual:
"Discs made on personal computers, including those of a compatible format, may not work properly in the DX-C390 because of incorrect settings in the disc burning software. Check the manuals supplied with your disc burning software for additional compatibility information."
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Re:Question for CD burning experts
2011/01/05 18:44:26
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old gear = fail
more times than not.
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Re:Question for CD burning experts
2011/01/05 18:51:42
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Nothing wrong with the Onkyo, it plays older CDs, CD-Rs etc with no problem (it is not an old player).
Sometimes questions on this forum are like a dog chasing his tail. ☺
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Re:Question for CD burning experts
2011/01/05 20:11:14
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A couple of thoughts ....
#1 You say you have tried multiple pieces of software. What CD authoring tools are you using. If you have SF 10 then you also have CD Architect 5.2 - is that what you are using?
#2 What operating system are you running on the computers?
#3 Do you have the current drivers for the optical burning drives
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Chris S
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Re:Question for CD burning experts
2011/01/08 01:54:06
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daveny5
I just looked up the manual for the Onkyo DX-c390. Its an older unit from 2003. It probably cannot handle reading CDs burned at the higher speeds that burners can now achieve.
Also, it says in the manual:
"Discs made on personal computers, including those of a compatible format, may not work properly in the DX-C390 because of incorrect settings in the disc burning software. Check the manuals supplied with your disc burning software for additional compatibility information."
OK, that must be it then...It is not old to me, but perhaps it is an old model...I didn't think I would have bought an old model player. However I don't think the burning speed was the problem since I have tested everything from 8x to 32x burning speed and had no difference there. The Onkyo will play CD-Rs burned at 40x from my computer's internal CD/DVD burner, but perhaps it is spotty. That is the only answer that makes any sense. I won't throw away the disks that won't play in it after all.
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Re:Question for CD burning experts
2011/01/08 09:31:26
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Well, I could be wrong, but it seems to me that its the weak link in the chain. I had a Samsung DVD player from about 2002-2003 and it wouldn't play homemade disks. Perhaps it has a problem with its laser.
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Chris S
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Re:Question for CD burning experts
2011/01/09 15:10:08
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daveny5
Well, I could be wrong, but it seems to me that its the weak link in the chain. I had a Samsung DVD player from about 2002-2003 and it wouldn't play homemade disks. Perhaps it has a problem with its laser.
I remember I bought the Onkyo at Circuit City a little over two years ago. It must have been sitting there for years, lol, no one bought stuff at Circuit City.
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