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Quick Poll: Would You Like To See The Snap Settings Change From The PRV to The TV?
...and match the custom settings you choose? I was just responding to a thread and I assumed that everyone would like this feature but of course that's not so smart so I was wondering if there are different opinions out there. I'll reword if you think it's needed. EDIT: I've edited this post to include a link to the feature request page and some rough text so we can request, if you like, a similar feature. Of course the text is only a suggestion. "Please include an option to include a separate, customizable, snap setting for the Track View and the Piano Roll View." Here's the feature request link. http://www.cakewalk.com/S.port/FeatureRequest.aspx
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Re:Quick Poll: Would You Like To See The Snap Settings Change From The PRV to The TV?
2011/02/04 21:40:09
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I would like my snap settings to remember the last setting I've used and quit defaulting to 1/16th notes each time I open X1.
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Re:Quick Poll: Would You Like To See The Snap Settings Change From The PRV to The TV?
2011/02/04 21:50:30
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Yeah that too! What about the 2 settings Lynn? Any thoughts?
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Re:Quick Poll: Would You Like To See The Snap Settings Change From The PRV to The TV?
2011/02/04 22:06:15
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I'm still stunned that they even CONSIDERED doing away with it!
Even if they thought many people might prefer it, it's so unlike them to take something away... Usually they give us MORE than we ask for on a given item... this year everything is backward!
Simply... YES... I 'must' have two separate settings (one for TV and another for PRV)... I'm exhausted from switching it back and forth all day long... and getting angry when I forget to...
...and while we're at it... the same problem exists with the "smart tool" in locating/selecting.... Two clicks over and over in every direction... this is driving me insane! (OK... MORE insane)... ;-)
Fix it! Please!!
But again, I urge you all to check out benstat's FREE Sonar X1 Helper... Of it's many tasks, it's covering this issue too!
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Re:Quick Poll: Would You Like To See The Snap Settings Change From The PRV to The TV?
2011/02/04 22:44:46
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Yes, I want independent snap settings for the TV and PRV and I hate the #$^%$#%&@#$$@%&$@ing global setting.
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Re:Quick Poll: Would You Like To See The Snap Settings Change From The PRV to The TV?
2011/02/04 23:06:55
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This just has to be Fixed there is no way i can continue going back and for back and forth couple hundred times a day
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Re:Quick Poll: Would You Like To See The Snap Settings Change From The PRV to The TV?
2011/02/04 23:11:08
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sackumfrasmskimsfrahsim Of course I'd like to have them different 
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Re:Quick Poll: Would You Like To See The Snap Settings Change From The PRV to The TV?
2011/02/04 23:20:40
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Yes...different snap settings for TV and PRV...just like always. Tho not because it was just like always. Because it's the BEST WAY TO HAVE IT!!
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Re:Quick Poll: Would You Like To See The Snap Settings Change From The PRV to The TV?
2011/02/04 23:44:09
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YES YES AND YESSS different snap settings for TV and PRV
I WILL DIVORCE SONAR if they don't lol
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Re:Quick Poll: Would You Like To See The Snap Settings Change From The PRV to The TV?
2011/02/04 23:53:39
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Now one thing I will say is even though I do way more midi than audio these days, it's a small setback vs. "I can't work like this" What upsets me is that they removed it when so many people are used to it and THEN made the comment that it probably won't be available as a FREE update    I took offense to that!
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Re:Quick Poll: Would You Like To See The Snap Settings Change From The PRV to The TV?
2011/02/05 00:12:27
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Re:Quick Poll: Would You Like To See The Snap Settings Change From The PRV to The TV?
2011/02/05 00:13:45
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chrisharbin
Now one thing I will say is even though I do way more midi than audio these days, it's a small setback vs. "I can't work like this"
What upsets me is that they removed it when so many people are used to it and THEN made the comment that it probably won't be available as a FREE update
I took offense to that!
Won't be available in a "Free Update"????...why do I remember asking in an earlier post about things subtracted from X1 that were in 5,6,7, and 8.5.3 possibly showing up in X2..for a fee? Don't do that man..that's just wrong..say it ain't so Bakers!
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Re:Quick Poll: Would You Like To See The Snap Settings Change From The PRV to The TV?
2011/02/05 00:14:21
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Ummmmmm... just a minute... yes!!!
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Re:Quick Poll: Would You Like To See The Snap Settings Change From The PRV to The TV?
2011/02/05 00:18:36
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Re:Quick Poll: Would You Like To See The Snap Settings Change From The PRV to The TV?
2011/02/05 00:30:29
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Hard to say. All I know is someone 'made off' with our old Sonar and it ain't comin' back for free.
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Re:Quick Poll: Would You Like To See The Snap Settings Change From The PRV to The TV?
2011/02/05 00:37:15
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I thought everyone knew about that. I bit my tongue but not tonight.
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Re:Quick Poll: Would You Like To See The Snap Settings Change From The PRV to The TV?
2011/02/05 00:56:50
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So....aum...lemme see....8.5.3....cancel the divorce. I'm staying.
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Re:Quick Poll: Would You Like To See The Snap Settings Change From The PRV to The TV?
2011/02/05 01:10:41
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yeah, but does 8.5.3 still want to stay WITH YOU! 
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Re:Quick Poll: Would You Like To See The Snap Settings Change From The PRV to The TV?
2011/02/05 01:32:42
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chrisharbin
Now one thing I will say is even though I do way more midi than audio these days, it's a small setback vs. "I can't work like this"
What upsets me is that they removed it when so many people are used to it and THEN made the comment that it probably won't be available as a FREE update
I took offense to that!
Won't be available in a "Free Update"????...why do I remember asking in an earlier post about things subtracted from X1 that were in 5,6,7, and 8.5.3 possibly showing up in X2..for a fee? Don't do that man..that's just wrong..say it ain't so Bakers!
I hope this is just accidental misinformation or misunderstanding - and I would like to see the post where this is said by Cakewalk. If that is indeed the case, I may work harder than I have previously to learn another brand of DAW software just on principle alone. After ten+ years and several thousand bucks with Cakewalk, putting up with the bugs that never get resolved or the (my opinion) half implemented features, that would be the last straw. I will not pay twice and waste any more of my time for things that were already developed - especially after being told that the elimination of powerful tools in the interface was an 'improvement'. Its bad enough that I am still using 8.5.3 to get things done even though I paid for a functional and 'improved' X1 - when all we really got was a flashy channel plugin and a new (and at times clumsy and constricting) facade - not a mature and feature rich upgrade. Not to say there aren't a couple nice things that came with X1 also, as there really are some nice gems in there, but they are overshadowed with issues and the whole package was billed as the next revolution in DAW software, and fell far short of that in reality. To the original topic - its still mind boggling to me that anyone who does any midi work would EVER think a universal snap grid was a good idea. This change is so utterly foolish that it raised a general alarm about X1 in my mind in the first place. It got me wondering what kind of thought process was behind all the changes. I am almost never one for petty ultimatums, but I can say that if they don't put this particular feature back to a useful and accessible state, and for free - I promise I will probably never purchase another version of Sonar, as sad as that day would be for me. I feel bad even posting that, but its the way I feel. D.
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Re:Quick Poll: Would You Like To See The Snap Settings Change From The PRV to The TV?
2011/02/05 01:46:51
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I am almost never one for petty ultimatums, but I can say that if they don't put this particular feature back to a useful and accessible state, and for free - I promise I will probably never purchase another version of Sonar, as sad as that day would be for me. I feel bad even posting that, but its the way I feel.
D.
You go girl! You give them an ultimatum, maybe! LOL! :) Sorry, your "probably" line struck my funny bone. :) HEHE!
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Re:Quick Poll: Would You Like To See The Snap Settings Change From The PRV to The TV?
2011/02/05 01:58:52
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chrisharbin
Now one thing I will say is even though I do way more midi than audio these days, it's a small setback vs. "I can't work like this"
What upsets me is that they removed it when so many people are used to it and THEN made the comment that it probably won't be available as a FREE update
I took offense to that!
Won't be available in a "Free Update"????...why do I remember asking in an earlier post about things subtracted from X1 that were in 5,6,7, and 8.5.3 possibly showing up in X2..for a fee? Don't do that man..that's just wrong..say it ain't so Bakers!
I hope this is just accidental misinformation or misunderstanding - and I would like to see the post where this is said by Cakewalk.
See this what ticks me off, I'm going to get labeled as the bad guy and all I'm doing is saying what was said. I'm not going back through thread after thread and page after page to dig this out for someone to believe me or not. Believe it or don't. Why would I make it up? I'll tell you this, until I saw that I was a more "forgiving" person in the whole x1 thing. But tonight, festering angers are coming out. It was not my intention to simply (beeep) on this thread but was more of a point I thought was common knowledge. I never left reaper. They do far better in expediency and FR than anyone afaik. I wanted X1 to be my main squeeze......it's not going to happen. I'm not bitter about it or anything, I'm just mad because they already SAID specifically that it isn't going to happen. Whether everyone revolts or not, this we do not know, but it's NOT going to happen anytime soon.
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Re:Quick Poll: Would You Like To See The Snap Settings Change From The PRV to The TV?
2011/02/05 02:12:18
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chrisharbin
Now one thing I will say is even though I do way more midi than audio these days, it's a small setback vs. "I can't work like this"
What upsets me is that they removed it when so many people are used to it and THEN made the comment that it probably won't be available as a FREE update
I took offense to that!
Won't be available in a "Free Update"????...why do I remember asking in an earlier post about things subtracted from X1 that were in 5,6,7, and 8.5.3 possibly showing up in X2..for a fee? Don't do that man..that's just wrong..say it ain't so Bakers!
I hope this is just accidental misinformation or misunderstanding - and I would like to see the post where this is said by Cakewalk.
See this what ticks me off, I'm going to get labeled as the bad guy and all I'm doing is saying what was said.
You aren't the bad guy here. The bakers said it. If anyone is to be the bad guy, I would think it would be me. I got pretty hostile in that thread. :) I won't go dig it up either, but it's out there if anyone wants to find it. Best way to search the forums, go to google, type in what you want to search for, space then "site:forum.cakewalk.com" without the quotation marks. It works a million times better than the forum search engine and 'cached view' shows things that are even deleted sometimes. ;) You did nothing wrong Chris. I just think things are boiling to a head here. I truly believe a LOT is riding on X1b. I really think it's going to make or break Cakewalk in the DAW business. Gotta go, have a good one! Bub. :)
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Re:Quick Poll: Would You Like To See The Snap Settings Change From The PRV to The TV?
2011/02/05 02:49:03
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We'll, I'm going to try and take a break. I just think it's best to step away for a while. I will of course answer any PM's that do arise 
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Re:Quick Poll: Would You Like To See The Snap Settings Change From The PRV to The TV?
2011/02/05 02:50:57
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To the OPs question. Yep, definitely I can't see any downside at all. If someone does want them the same they can always set them the same. @Lynn "I would like my snap settings to remember the last setting I've used and quit defaulting to 1/16th notes each time I open X1." Set your snap-to times from within the PRV or with it the active window. The bug isn't that X1 'forgets' the setting. The bug is that the PRV will always change the snap-to to what it was last set to in the PRV, if that makes sense. That's why the snap-to seems to randomly change. Once you understand the bug it is relatively easy to work round. Of course fixing the bug would be the better option but in the meantime............
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Re:Quick Poll: Would You Like To See The Snap Settings Change From The PRV to The TV?
2011/02/05 04:05:51
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Yes.
I don't know how it escaped their attention that having separate settings for Track and PRV is a HUGE time-saver. Having the option gone is bad enough, but the assorted bugs regarding them just catapult me to the dark ages.
But, they are working on it. Tho they said separate settings aren't being worked on PER SE, I'm hoping they come up with cool ways to hot swap or some such tech. I think a dedicated key cluster is needed for the various snap settings to get its workflow back to as kick ass as the rest of the program.
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Re:Quick Poll: Would You Like To See The Snap Settings Change From The PRV to The TV?
2011/02/05 04:22:31
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Yes of course there should be both.
Not having so is illogical.
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Re:Quick Poll: Would You Like To See The Snap Settings Change From The PRV to The TV?
2011/02/05 05:29:39
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Yes, I would like to be able to have independent settings for snap to grid in the TV and PRV. THEN made the comment that it probably won't be available as a FREE update Anybody know what thread this is in or which Cakewalk employee posted this comment?
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Re:Quick Poll: Would You Like To See The Snap Settings Change From The PRV to The TV?
2011/02/05 06:05:57
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Yes, I would like to be able to have independent settings for snap to grid in the TV and PRV.
THEN made the comment that it probably won't be available as a FREE update
Anybody know what thread this is in or which Cakewalk employee posted this comment?
Can't remember the exact thread but I'm pretty sure it was Seth. Of course my apologies if I'm wrong........
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Re:Quick Poll: Would You Like To See The Snap Settings Change From The PRV to The TV?
2011/02/05 06:11:46
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