Quick Way To Determine 32bit or 64bit Plugins in Project?

Author
davec69
Max Output Level: -87 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 178
  • Joined: 2014/11/15 03:43:21
  • Status: offline
2016/01/15 13:55:26 (permalink)

Quick Way To Determine 32bit or 64bit Plugins in Project?

Does anyone know of a quick way of determining whether plugins used in a particular project are 32bit or 64bit?  I have many plugins with both 32 and 64 bit versions installed.  Just want to confirm that Sonar is actually loading the 64bit version.  
 
I know there color coding in the VST Browser area, when selecting, but what about when they're already in a project?

Toshiba P75-A7200 Laptop
Intel i7-4700MQ
16GB RAM
2 x 1TB Hybrid Drives
Windows 10
Sonar Platinum (Last Update)
Cakewalk Bandlab (Latest Update)
Roland Quad Capture (Bios 1.04 / 1.52 drivers)

#1

12 Replies Related Threads

    scook
    Forum Host
    • Total Posts : 24146
    • Joined: 2005/07/27 13:43:57
    • Location: TX
    • Status: offline
    Re: Quick Way To Determine 32bit or 64bit Plugins in Project? 2016/01/15 14:03:46 (permalink)
    32bit plug-ins when opened in 64bit SONAR do not display the standard VST header by default. Cakewalk does not provide a plug-in report on a per-project basis. The user created utility ProjectScope appears to display plug-ins used but I do not see where it identifies whether the plug-ins is 32 or 64bit. I have not used the utility so cannot comment any further about it. See the user utilities page for more info http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3238243
    #2
    scook
    Forum Host
    • Total Posts : 24146
    • Joined: 2005/07/27 13:43:57
    • Location: TX
    • Status: offline
    Re: Quick Way To Determine 32bit or 64bit Plugins in Project? 2016/01/15 14:46:23 (permalink)
    If the plug-ins are installed in different paths, a quick way might be to remove the 32bit paths from the VST scan paths in preferences. Then the projects should complain when encountering a missing 32bit plug-in.
     
    While I do have some plug-ins installed for other hosts, I do not have the paths in my VST scan path. In the few instances where only a 32bit plug-in exists, it is either installed in the Cakewalk default 64bit path (like the few bundled with SONAR) or in special path created for this case. IOW, I do not have all the 32bit plug-in installed on my PC in the 64bit SONAR scan path.
    #3
    davec69
    Max Output Level: -87 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 178
    • Joined: 2014/11/15 03:43:21
    • Status: offline
    Re: Quick Way To Determine 32bit or 64bit Plugins in Project? 2016/01/15 16:44:57 (permalink)
    Unfortunately, my plugins are not separated in different folders.  Good idea though......

    Toshiba P75-A7200 Laptop
    Intel i7-4700MQ
    16GB RAM
    2 x 1TB Hybrid Drives
    Windows 10
    Sonar Platinum (Last Update)
    Cakewalk Bandlab (Latest Update)
    Roland Quad Capture (Bios 1.04 / 1.52 drivers)

    #4
    Bristol_Jonesey
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 16775
    • Joined: 2007/10/08 15:41:17
    • Location: Bristol, UK
    • Status: offline
    Re: Quick Way To Determine 32bit or 64bit Plugins in Project? 2016/01/16 07:02:38 (permalink)
    You might want to consider doing a tidy up - most dlls can be dragged & dropped to different folders

    CbB, Platinum, 64 bit throughout
    Custom built i7 3930, 32Gb RAM, 2 x 1Tb Internal HDD, 1 x 1TB system SSD (Win 7), 1 x 500Gb system SSD (Win 10), 2 x 1Tb External HDD's, Dual boot Win 7 & Win 10 64 Bit, Saffire Pro 26, ISA One, Adam P11A,
    #5
    THambrecht
    Max Output Level: -73 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 867
    • Joined: 2010/12/10 06:42:03
    • Location: Germany
    • Status: offline
    Re: Quick Way To Determine 32bit or 64bit Plugins in Project? 2016/01/16 07:18:06 (permalink)
    32-Bit Plugins are always shown in a special window from the Bitbridge Server.
     

    We digitize tapes, vinyl, dat, md ... in broadcast and studio quality for publishers, public institutions and individuals.
    4 x Intel Quad-CPU, 4GHz Sonar Platinum (Windows 10 - 64Bit) and 14 computers for recording tapes, vinyl ...

    4 x RME Fireface 800, 2 x Roland Octa Capture and 4 x Roland Quad Capture, Focusrite .... Studer A80, RP99, EMT948 ...

    (Germany)  http://www.hambrecht.de
    #6
    JoeOss
    Max Output Level: -90 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 47
    • Joined: 2011/08/17 09:07:35
    • Status: offline
    Re: Quick Way To Determine 32bit or 64bit Plugins in Project? 2016/01/16 07:35:06 (permalink)
    I believe in the browser 32 bit show in green and 64 in blue
    #7
    northlake63
    Max Output Level: -90 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 15
    • Joined: 2015/01/02 20:43:13
    • Location: Charlotte, NC
    • Status: offline
    Re: Quick Way To Determine 32bit or 64bit Plugins in Project? 2016/01/16 10:47:31 (permalink)
    How does one go about removing the 32 bit from the scan path ?
    #8
    williamcopper
    Max Output Level: -68 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 1120
    • Joined: 2014/11/03 09:22:03
    • Location: Virginia, USA
    • Status: offline
    Re: Quick Way To Determine 32bit or 64bit Plugins in Project? 2016/01/16 21:09:28 (permalink)
    All in all: please CW, MAKE IT CLEAR!!  Would that be so difficult?    Even after a year of work with sonar, I still get fooled occasionally by what is and what is not a 32 bit vst. 
    #9
    Anderton
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 14070
    • Joined: 2003/11/06 14:02:03
    • Status: offline
    Re: Quick Way To Determine 32bit or 64bit Plugins in Project? 2016/01/16 22:59:42 (permalink)
    williamcopper
    All in all: please CW, MAKE IT CLEAR!!  Would that be so difficult?

     
    If you want to verify the plug-in bit resolution of a plug-in that's already in your project, open it up and look at the header, as scook already explained.
     

     
    William, if opening the effect's GUI is too difficult for you, the only way I can think of Cakewalk making it any clearer is if SONAR could psychically implant the thought within your brain upon your thinking you wanted to know the answer. Even Cortana can't do that.
     
    You can also find out when you you insert the plug-in.
     

     
    If you want to find out whether a plug-in is 32- or 64-bit after the fact, you can look in the Browser.
     

     
    Or the plug-in manager, if you want to delve deeper. Look to see if it was installed in a 32-bit or 64-bit VST directory, and if so, which one so you can determine whether it's being scanned or not. This will also let you know if SONAR is seeing both 32- and 64-bit versions.
     
    If you want details about the plug-in without having to go into the Plug-In Manager, then click on the name in the browser, and look at the descriptive text.
     

     
     
     
     

    The first 3 books in "The Musician's Guide to Home Recording" series are available from Hal Leonard and http://www.reverb.com. Listen to my music on http://www.YouTube.com/thecraiganderton, and visit http://www.craiganderton.com. Thanks!
    #10
    subtlearts
    Max Output Level: -53.5 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 2200
    • Joined: 2006/01/10 05:59:21
    • Location: Berlin
    • Status: offline
    Re: Quick Way To Determine 32bit or 64bit Plugins in Project? 2016/01/17 08:54:12 (permalink)
    Bristol_Jonesey
    You might want to consider doing a tidy up - most dlls can be dragged & dropped to different folders



    Most can be moved and re-scanned without issue, but having been recently bitten by it, I will add this caveat: be careful moving Native Instruments dll's around - NI has its own kind of registry list of file locations and even though Sonar might re-scan and find things if you move them, NI-internal relationships - if you use Maschine or Komplete Kontrol, for example - can get broken and are difficult to resolve. I did however find an awesome user-created utility for fixing it though... 

    tobias tinker 
    music is easy: just start with complete silence, and take away the parts you don't like!
    tobiastinker.com
    aeosrecords.com
    soundfascination.com
    Sonar Platinum, a bunch of other stuff...
    #11
    sven450
    Max Output Level: -72 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 945
    • Joined: 2004/03/16 08:11:49
    • Status: offline
    Re: Quick Way To Determine 32bit or 64bit Plugins in Project? 2016/01/17 09:08:41 (permalink)
    That was a hell of an answer Anderton, and funny as hell to boot.
     
    "if opening the effect's GUI is too difficult for you, the only way I can think of Cakewalk making it any clearer is if SONAR could psychically implant the thought within your brain upon your thinking you wanted to know the answer."
     
    By the way, can you get the Bakers to work on this?  I think it would really fly in the next update.
     

    Sonar Platinum/Bandlab Sonar
    Roland Octa-Capture            
    Win 10 
    i7 6700  16 Gig Ram
    Some songs
    Covers:  https://soundcloud.com/cygnuss/sets/covers
    Originals:
     https://soundcloud.com/cygnuss/sets/originals
    #12
    TPayton
    Max Output Level: -87 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 178
    • Joined: 2014/09/26 11:23:12
    • Location: Indiana
    • Status: offline
    Re: Quick Way To Determine 32bit or 64bit Plugins in Project? 2016/01/17 12:14:44 (permalink)
    Gives a whole new dimension to "inserting" a plug-in.

    Tom
    #13
    Jump to:
    © 2025 APG vNext Commercial Version 5.1