Fadengo
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Quick help needed : DirectX Fx not discovered
Hello Everyone,
I'm trying out Sonar X3 demo to see if it will be compatible with my Setup.
So far, I'm blown away with it (Georgeous UI, Smart Zoom, Docking windows, x64 & VST3 Support, In-Line Midi Editing).
But I have 1 issues with the Cakewalk Plugins Manager :
I don't understand why it didn't load the following DirectX Plug-ins :
- Antares Tube
- BBE Sonic Maximize
- Trevor Magnusson Bass Chorus / Water Glass
- Timeworks Phaser Model88 / Reverb 4080L
Indeed these particular plugins are only available in DirectX, and they're discontinued so my only change to work with them is to have them loaded in DirectX.
Is there anything I have to do to force it to discover these DirectX Plug-ins ? Registry tweak ? Cache folder to erase ?
Thank you in advance for your kind help !
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scook
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Re: Quick help needed : DirectX Fx not discovered
2014/10/06 18:12:18
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If you are running 64bit SONAR, the plug-ins will not be available. There is no such thing as a bridge for 32bit DX plug-ins. Some have had limited success running 32bit DX plug-ins in a DX-to-VST wrapper then loading the wrapped plug-ins in BitBridge or jBridge.
If you are running 32bit SONAR, try running SONAR as administrator.
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Fadengo
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Re: Quick help needed : DirectX Fx not discovered
2014/10/06 18:14:20
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Hello Scook, and thank you so much for your quick answer !
You're right I'm running x64. What Dx2VST Wrapper do you suggest I use (which one works the best) ?
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scook
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Re: Quick help needed : DirectX Fx not discovered
2014/10/06 18:21:56
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☄ Helpfulby Fadengo 2014/10/07 13:02:41
This is the only one I have used http://xlutop.com/buzz/zip/dxshell_v1.0.4b.zip and I have not used it in some time. If you are wedded to these plug-ins, you are better off running 32bit SONAR. This too is a short term solution. There will come a day when Windows drops 32bit support altogether (sooner than we might imagine). The better solution is to find 64bit replacements ASAP.
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Fadengo
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Re: Quick help needed : DirectX Fx not discovered
2014/10/06 18:38:58
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Hello Scook,
Thank you so much for pulling out this link ! I'm so grateful !
Yes hopefully we leave the era of the limited 32-bit world.
Indeed, there's alot of choice nowdays to replace these 10 years-old plugins (but sometime it's a sentimental thing).
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Re: Quick help needed : DirectX Fx not discovered
2014/10/06 18:47:42
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I would not expect much from the wrapper but if it works, great. Consider posting your results either way in this thread. Because the plug-ins are so old, in addition to wrapping the plug-ins SONAR may need to run as administrator. Right-click the SONAR icon and select the "Run As Administrator" option or for a more permanent setting click the Compatibility tab and check the "Run this program as an administrator" option.
FWIW, both 32bit and 64bit versions of SONAR may be installed at the same time on 64bit Windows. This may be the most reliable solution while transitioning to a 64bit DAW.
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Fadengo
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Re: Quick help needed : DirectX Fx not discovered
2014/10/06 21:38:47
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Scook,
As asked, here's my report:
The DXShell works like a charm. It works like Waveshell (a shell developped by Waves Plugins) which is very stable.
I wanted to start a new thread but I didn't want to flood, but :
Is there a way to assign a keyboard shortcut key to turn on/off in-line midi editing (the "notes" drop-down menu on midi tracks) ?
In Acid Pro I have a G shortcut to turn on/off in-line midi editing, and F shortcut to show/hide volume stems of the notes. It makes my midi editing workflow faster.
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Re: Quick help needed : DirectX Fx not discovered
2014/10/06 22:18:04
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Thanks for the feedback, glad the wrapper is working for you.
Sorry, don't know an existing shortcut or binding opportunity. I work in the Piano Roll View. If it helps at all "T" or clicking the mouse wheel in a track will bring up the HUD which has the Edit Filter drop down just like the track header.
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Re: Quick help needed : DirectX Fx not discovered
2014/10/06 23:56:25
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Fadengo
Is there a way to assign a keyboard shortcut key to turn on/off in-line midi editing (the "notes" drop-down menu on midi tracks) ?
I assume you're talking about the inline editor in Track View, not the piano roll editor...if that's the case, there's no shortcut per se but if you hold Shift and right-click on the inline MIDI editor in the track, it will toggle between that and the last edit filter setting. This is GREAT for toggling back and forth between clips and notes. But it also toggles between the two most recent states in any track, not just MIDI tracks. So for example with audio, you can toggle easily between clips and audio transients or whatever.
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Re: Quick help needed : DirectX Fx not discovered
2014/10/07 08:46:24
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Hello Anderton, Yes I was talking about switching between "Clip" view and "Notes" view. Look how quickly I get into the "In-Line Midi Editing" mode with Acid hitting the "G" shortcut :  And hitting "F" I can show up the Volume Stem, as quickly : 
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Re: Quick help needed : DirectX Fx not discovered
2014/10/07 09:17:46
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Hi Fadengo. Just a quick note about the BBE plugins. The Sonic Sweet bundle and now the new BBE Sonic Sweet Optimized bundle with 4 plugins are VST, not Direct X. Hope this helps. http://www.nomadfactory.com/ The BBE pack is on the front page.
Win 10 Pro x64, 32Gb DDR3 ram, Sonar Platinum, Cubase 9.5, Mackie MCU Pro, Cakewalk VS 100, Roland Octa-Capture, A 800 Pro, Carver M-1.5t amp & C4000 pre amp, various mics, drums and brass instruments. And away we go!
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Re: Quick help needed : DirectX Fx not discovered
2014/10/07 13:31:38
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I'm going to create a new thread for the other quesiton. Tidying up!
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Re: Quick help needed : DirectX Fx not discovered
2014/10/07 13:43:43
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FCCfirstclass
Hi Fadengo.
Just a quick note about the BBE plugins. The Sonic Sweet bundle and now the new BBE Sonic Sweet Optimized bundle with 4 plugins are VST, not Direct X. Hope this helps.
http://www.nomadfactory.com/ The BBE pack is on the front page.
The old ones were DX. I had the BBE Sonic Maximizer years ago and it was a DX plugin. I got the bundle recently and you are right now for the new ones they are VST 64 bit. I'm not sure they are as good. LOL.
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Re: Quick help needed : DirectX Fx not discovered
2014/10/07 13:49:10
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John,
Thank you for your reply. Yes these BBE plugins are great. This is the kind of Direct-X Fx that are hard to replace because their sound is so addictive.
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