Quickfix and new iLok version 2...possible conflict...then there were several!

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2011/04/07 10:44:19 (permalink)

Quickfix and new iLok version 2...possible conflict...then there were several!

At first I thought it was just my Slate Digital stuff that was acting screwy after installing the Quickfix.  But then I discovered it was anything that was on my new Version 2 iLok.  I finally got everything working again...but...every so often on booting X1b now I still get popups and error dialogs from the plugs on the new iLok.  I've downloaded all the latest drivers and updated all my iLoks.  Just a heads up if you have the new iLok you might want to set a restore point BEFORE installing the Quickfix.
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    Re:Quickfix and new iLok version 2...possible conflict 2011/04/07 11:42:31 (permalink)
    a timely warning! Thanks. 

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    Re:Quickfix and new iLok version 2...possible conflict 2011/04/07 12:23:47 (permalink)
    This would be 100% unrelated to the quickfix. Also no need for restore points. If you read the Quickfix KB article there are clear instructions on how to roll it back. Its just one file.

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    Re:Quickfix and new iLok version 2...possible conflict 2011/04/07 12:55:35 (permalink)
    Well, being a dimwit, I don't claim to know what causes what when it comes to any of my software...BUT...It was immediately after installing the Quickfix that all hell broke loose on my rig.  And I hadn't changed anything else.  So, my fine fellow guitarist, you've told me what it isn't.  Pray tell what it might've been.  100% is mighty strong language where I come from:-)


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    Re:Quickfix and new iLok version 2...possible conflict 2011/04/07 13:15:26 (permalink)
    I used my ilok all day yesterday and had no errors or problems with the quickfix, sorry yorolpal



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    Re:Quickfix and new iLok version 2...possible conflict 2011/04/07 13:27:33 (permalink)
    Well its easy enough to verify by rolling back the hotfix. There were very specific changes that went into the hotfix and nothing that might impact the behavior of iLOK.

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    Re:Quickfix and new iLok version 2...possible conflict 2011/04/07 13:44:55 (permalink)
    Okey Doakey, ol pal.  I trust your judgement.

    (and for laney...is that the new Version 2 iLok??)

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    Re:Quickfix and new iLok version 2...possible conflict 2011/04/07 13:47:17 (permalink)
    hey Pal after my quickfix I started receiving not authorized messages from my slate VCC stuff that were in previous projects. I did apply the latest ILOK drivers dated march 30 and slate was recognized in the aforementioned projects.

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    Re:Quickfix and new iLok version 2...possible conflict 2011/04/07 15:32:09 (permalink)
    See, Noel...I wasn't kidding.  That's exactly what happened to me.  You might want to give this another teensy ol look.

    Thanks for the corroboration musicman, ol pal:-)

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    Re:Quickfix and new iLok version 2...possible conflict 2011/04/07 20:56:38 (permalink)
    Same problem here with iLok 2.....and I never installed the quick fix.

    I was also having trouble keeping Trigger dynamic settings...they were disappearing every time I closed the plugin.

    Until I swapped cables and went back to SPE 5.  Both problems are gone.

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    Re:Quickfix and new iLok version 2...possible conflict 2011/04/07 21:30:20 (permalink)
    I took the plunge and can report no issues with X1b x64 Quickfix and iLok 2 drivers. Although I did take the precaution of scanning plugins before loading any projects.

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    Re:Quickfix and new iLok version 2...possible conflict 2011/04/07 22:05:52 (permalink)
    But there is definitely some kinda problem with the iLok 2 and the most recent versions of X1.  Let's hope Noel comes on back and tells us what it might be...instead of what it certainly isn't. 

    PS:  Have you listened to Noel and his wife's jazz group?  They are killer diller.  Google them.

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    Re:Quickfix and new iLok version 2...possible conflict 2011/04/07 22:33:38 (permalink)
    FWIW I also had problems after installing the quickfix patch along with VCC v1.1 (which has definate issues in many DAWS, not just X1)
    I went back to using the beta VCC 2.5 x64 I was using previously & have been mixing all day long w/o a single problem or crash.
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    Re:Quickfix and new iLok version 2...possible conflict 2011/04/07 22:41:56 (permalink)
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    Have you listened to Noel and his wife's jazz group?  They are killer diller.  

    Yes - they are quite excellent.  World class.
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    Re:Quickfix and new iLok version 2...possible conflict 2011/04/07 22:51:36 (permalink)
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    Have you listened to Noel and his wife's jazz group?  They are killer diller.  

    Yes - they are quite excellent.  World class.
    Another great big wow. Noel, very, very, nice.

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    Re:Quickfix and new iLok version 2...possible conflict 2011/04/07 23:24:38 (permalink)
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    FWIW I also had problems after installing the quickfix patch along with VCC v1.1 (which has definate issues in many DAWS, not just X1)
    I went back to using the beta VCC 2.5 x64 I was using previously & have been mixing all day long w/o a single problem or crash.
    YMMV

    You're right.  Come to think of it, my problem started immediately after I downloaded and installed the VCC demo.
     
    But again...I never did install the X1b Quickfix.
     
    And I never did load VCC onto my other hard drive with SPE 5 on it.  And...Trigger is playing nice on SPE 5.  All settings are saving properly.
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    Re:Quickfix and new iLok version 2...possible conflict 2011/04/07 23:34:46 (permalink)
    I had the VCC beta working right as rain up and untill I loaded the Quickfix.  No probs at all.

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    Re:Quickfix and new iLok version 2...possible conflict 2011/04/08 05:57:45 (permalink)
    I have been using the latest VCC v1.1 with the new ilok 2 and the SONAR X1b + Quick Fix without any new issues. The VCC has some minor issues of it's own (that affect many DAW's), but I have seen zero performance difference after adding the SONAR Quickfix update. I have been mixing using as many as (50) UAD-2 plugins + (24) VCC (total of 74 VST) in a SONAR X1b + Quickfix project, BTW. In fact, it all runs pretty smoothly and no show stoppers, except for these minor issues that existed before the Quickfix and also happen in REAPER v4.0a60 and probably most other DAW's as well. 

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    Re:Quickfix and new iLok version 2...possible conflict 2011/04/08 09:50:55 (permalink)
    ILOK has an issue with running  ilok  on 64bit hosts with 64 bit programs.

    i been waiting for months for an attempt to fix it..   as far as i can tell izotope  says screw it. just use the challange /responce.

     so if your using 64 bit plugs on a 64 bit host you will likely have some overpriced flash drive (ilok) issues.

     
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    Re:Quickfix and new iLok version 2...possible conflict 2011/04/08 10:14:59 (permalink)
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    ILOK has an issue with running  ilok  on 64bit hosts with 64 bit programs.

    i been waiting for months for an attempt to fix it..   as far as i can tell izotope  says screw it. just use the challange /responce.

    so if your using 64 bit plugs on a 64 bit host you will likely have some overpriced flash drive (ilok) issues.


    Interesting.
    Is that iLok 2 or the original one?

    I've been running the original iLok on Windows 7 x64 with 64 bit hosts since day one and never had a problem.



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    Re:Quickfix and new iLok version 2...possible conflict 2011/04/08 13:25:42 (permalink)
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    Interesting.
    Is that iLok 2 or the original one?

    I've been running the original iLok on Windows 7 x64 with 64 bit hosts since day one and never had a problem.

    From the posts here, it would seem to be an iLok2 issue, affecting 64 bit.

    I was close to buying an iLok, and now this has got me considering looking for an original ilok1.



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    Re:Quickfix and new iLok version 2...possible conflict 2011/04/08 13:30:36 (permalink)
    What's weird is that my iLok 2 worked flawlessly for almost a month.  Which included X1a and X1b.  All in 64bit.  It did not show any problems at all until "immediately" after installing the Quickfix. 

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    Re:Quickfix and new iLok version 2...possible conflict 2011/04/08 15:02:47 (permalink)
    Don't know if you mentioned it but did you move the ilok's usb location?  Keep it on the computers main usb, not on a hub. Just trying a different usb altogether may help too.
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    Re:Quickfix and new iLok version 2...possible conflict 2011/04/08 15:50:43 (permalink)
    No I didn't move it.  But all my iLoks (3) are on their own hub and have always run fine.

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    Re:Quickfix and new iLok version 2...possible conflict 2011/04/08 16:10:09 (permalink)
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    What's weird is that my iLok 2 worked flawlessly for almost a month.  Which included X1a and X1b.  All in 64bit.  It did not show any problems at all until "immediately" after installing the Quickfix. 

    have you tried using the ilok in 8.5 to elliminate the propability of it being related to x1?..i dont know..im talking out of my bum..im just trying to help..i know a lot of alot of things and a little bit of nothing.sorry.just an idea.

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    Re:Quickfix and new iLok version 2...possible conflict 2011/04/09 02:52:19 (permalink)
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    But there is definitely some kinda problem with the iLok 2 and the most recent versions of X1. 

    Not necessarily (at least not just those two).  Did you see Paul's post above yours?  He has that combo but isn't having your issues.  What he also doesn't have (at least doesn't mention it) is the VCC plug. 

    Note that every problem post mentions the VCC plug (or demo) also installed.

    Maybe that trio doesn't sit well together...?



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    Re:Quickfix and new iLok version 2...possible conflict 2011/04/09 03:40:29 (permalink)
    Hi ol pal !

    Have you introduced ilok 2 after X1 or before (8.5) ....

    You should  maybe do a complete rescan , the  ilok 2 maybe change something , while you have old plugins protection version registred to them ...;or some like that ....

    Is it doing this for all your ilok protected plugins ?

    Is scanning of new plugins is enabled on the start ? if yes , cut the dll , start , close , repast them to force a scan of only those , start again and see ....

    Is it doing in it on new project ?

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    Re:Quickfix and new iLok version 2...possible conflict 2011/04/09 11:11:09 (permalink)
    Well it also affected my Sound Toys plugs on that iLok so it wasn't just the VCC.  Although that could still be the culprit.  But, again, I was using the VCC "Beta" (I'm still wating on the 64bit full version) and it had been running fine for many weeks.  It was only after (and I mean right after) I installed the Quickfix that things went haywire.

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    Re:Quickfix and new iLok version 2...possible conflict 2011/04/10 12:50:48 (permalink)
    Have you reported it to Slate as an issue? The iLok support peeps are supposed to be entirely unresponsive, but you could always enter a support ticket with Slate in the hopes that they'll get back to you.

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    Re:Quickfix and new iLok version 2...possible conflict 2011/04/10 14:21:46 (permalink)
    Been working all day with iLok2 and lots of iLok plugs in X1b quickfix x64. I'd be tempted lay money down that the Slate installation routine installs the wrong drivers. Don't use Slate meself, I'd rather get some Alex B emulations on Nebula.  

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