Quickly transposing midi notes up or down an octave?

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2013/06/01 04:42:09 (permalink)

Quickly transposing midi notes up or down an octave?

I found out about the nudge up and nudge down key bindings, but this will only nudge by a semitone. Would there be another way, then, of selecting notes in the PRV and instantly shifting it up or down an octave? Perhaps some .ini wizardry of some sort to change the amount of semitones of nudge up/down? Cheers.
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    Re:Quickly transposing midi notes up or down an octave? 2013/06/01 04:53:27 (permalink)
    Not in front of  my DAW at present but if you look in the track inspect clip tab there is a transpose function there.

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    Re:Quickly transposing midi notes up or down an octave? 2013/06/01 05:15:26 (permalink)
    Hmm maybe I'm being dumb but I can't see what you're referring to. There's no such function anywhere in the Clip tab of a midi track's inspector, nor within the inspector itself. I'd be looking for a way to do it with a keyboard shortcut anyway, like it's possible in ableton live.
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    Re:Quickly transposing midi notes up or down an octave? 2013/06/01 05:18:35 (permalink)
    Highlight the note(s), then top of the screen choose 'Process' and then 'Transpose' from the drop down.
    Sometimes I just highlight them in the PRV and drag them up or down with my mouse.

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    Re:Quickly transposing midi notes up or down an octave? 2013/06/01 05:22:46 (permalink)
    I know, but that's the thing, that's quite inconvenient when I want to experiment and quickly try out a bunch of different chords. Anyway, by now I don't think it can be done, I looked everywhere, unless the semitone amount of nudge up and down could somehow be modified. That should be in the nudge options, really. Might have to submit a feature request on that one.
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    Re:Quickly transposing midi notes up or down an octave? 2013/06/01 05:32:55 (permalink)
    Select notes and enter "+" or "-" followed by "12" in the Pitch field of Event Inspector.

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    Re:Quickly transposing midi notes up or down an octave? 2013/06/01 06:27:34 (permalink)
    I am not in front of my DAW but I seem to recall in 8.5 you could put a midi transpose "fx" in the fix bin so that it automatically transposes for you, even "on the fly" as I recall

    I am sure this feature would remain in x2 so I hope this sets you off in the right direction
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    Re:Quickly transposing midi notes up or down an octave? 2013/06/01 08:53:24 (permalink)
    It'd be nice if there was a simple keystroke to transpose up or down an octave, but there isn't. I use Jlien X's method: simply typing +12, +24, -12, etc. into the "Key+" box in the track header.


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    Re:Quickly transposing midi notes up or down an octave? 2013/06/01 09:36:27 (permalink)
    Create a CAL script and bind it to a keystroke. Here is a script for raising up an octave. Cut and paste between the --- and save as "Octave Up.CAL" where all your CAL scripts are stored. Then add a keyboard shortcut in preferences. If you need help with Octave down let me know (hint: change the += to -= and save file under another name):
    ---
    ;; Octave Up.cal
    ;;
    ;; This is a sample CAL program that implements an editing command to
    ;; raise notes up one octave.
    ;;
    (do
     (forEachEvent
      (if (== Event.Kind NOTE)
       (do
        (+= Note.Key 12)
       )
      )
     )
    )
    ---
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    Re:Quickly transposing midi notes up or down an octave? 2013/06/01 09:49:00 (permalink)
    Not sure if this is what you are looking for but you could use the Event Inspector. All you have to do is lasso or multi select the notes you want to change, enter the pitch info and it's done. Here's a digifreq vid showing it being done. http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/video.asp?ID=7
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    Re:Quickly transposing midi notes up or down an octave? 2013/06/01 09:50:18 (permalink)
    Darnit. I swear I read the comments and still missed Julien's post. Not enough caffeine yet. lol
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    Re:Quickly transposing midi notes up or down an octave? 2013/06/01 10:14:15 (permalink)
    Thanks, Beepster! Yep, just use the Event Inspector... free video here...

    * Cakewalk SONAR:  Event Inspector Editing
    http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/video.asp?ID=7

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    Re:Quickly transposing midi notes up or down an octave? 2013/06/01 10:15:59 (permalink)
    For transposing notes up and down an octave in PRV, I have a keyboard shortcut that I've set up as a keybinding, by assigning
    Process-Transpose to Alt-T (an unused keybind)

    First, Select notes to transpose (or an entire clip) - then Alt-T (my keybinding) which pops up the Transpose window,
    then I click square brackets [ or ] to transpose up or down an octave.

    It sounds like a lot, but once the keybind is set up, it's 2 quick keyboard commands to do a transpose.

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    Re:Quickly transposing midi notes up or down an octave? 2013/06/01 14:31:47 (permalink)
    Scook has nailed it. Thanks a lot! I was going to setup a autohotkey to repeat nudge 12 times, but this is even better. CAL for the win!
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    Re:Quickly transposing midi notes up or down an octave? 2013/06/01 15:06:26 (permalink)
    Yay for scook! I hadn't even thought about using a CAL script for that. Great idea.

    Now I just have to find two keystrokes that aren't already mapped to something...


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    Re:Quickly transposing midi notes up or down an octave? 2013/06/01 15:09:26 (permalink)
    I really gotta learn all that fancy CAL stuff. Freaks me out though fiddling with the guts of a program.
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    Re:Quickly transposing midi notes up or down an octave? 2013/06/01 15:18:48 (permalink)
    Thanks guys. This just screamed CAL to me, simple MIDI macro, it was a hack job based on an existing CW supplied script.
    post edited by scook - 2013/06/01 15:47:09
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    Re:Quickly transposing midi notes up or down an octave? 2013/06/01 16:34:55 (permalink)
    In the transpose dialog, right click the + to go up by an octave (or - for down an octave). Good time saver. Sometimes it is quicker to use this and then click down a few steps when you are making large jumps (like +7).

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    Re:Quickly transposing midi notes up or down an octave? 2013/06/01 23:46:38 (permalink)
    Am I right in understanding that the Recording CAL Programs instruction at the bottom of this page (http://www.cakewalk.com/DevXchange/article.aspx?aid=110) doesn't apply to Sonar X2?
    I don't see CAL Script in the File-New menu...
    What I'm trying to do is create a macro that sets the duration of all selected note events to 1/4, 1/8, 1/16, etc.
    It would be a little faster than using the Event Inspector...  (edit: if assigned to a keyboard shortcut)

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    Re:Quickly transposing midi notes up or down an octave? 2013/06/02 00:02:30 (permalink)
    The first line of the DevXchange doc is a clue "Cakewalk Application Language (CAL) is an event-processing language that you use to extend Pro Audio and Professional with custom editing commands." Those are very old Cakewalk products. CAL scripts work in SONAR but it lacks the tools from older CW Products. SONAR includes a few CAL scripts. CAL scripts are plain text. This CAL Editor http://www.softpedia.com/...itors/CAL-Editor.shtml includes a chm that covers the language. I do not believe changing Note.Dur would be that hard.
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    Re:Quickly transposing midi notes up or down an octave? 2013/06/02 00:11:35 (permalink)
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    The first line of the DevXchange doc is a clue "Cakewalk Application Language (CAL) is an event-processing language that you use to extend Pro Audio and Professional with custom editing commands." Those are very old Cakewalk products. CAL scripts work in SONAR but it lacks the tools from older CW Products. SONAR includes a few CAL scripts. CAL scripts are plain text. This CAL Editor http://www.softpedia.com/...itors/CAL-Editor.shtml includes a chm that covers the language. I do not believe changing Note.Dur would be that hard.

    Thanks Scook, I'll try the CAL Editor!

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    Re:Quickly transposing midi notes up or down an octave? 2013/06/02 14:12:38 (permalink)
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    Not in front of  my DAW at present but if you look in the track inspect clip tab there is a transpose function there.

    My error if you look in the inspector for your midi track and click on the pro channel tab near the bottom is a window that says Key+

    To quote from the help

    Key+. The number of half steps by which the notes in the track are transposed on playback (e.g., 12 to transpose up one octave)



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