RECORDING SONAR'S IN BUILT METRONOME

Create your own metronome sound with a synth click track? Probably easier than trying to route an output to an input just to record Sonar's metronome.

I heard there was a way of recording this?

From you're last thread, I gather you are running an RME-Fireface 400. I'm guessing that like my E-mu's PatchMix software, RME's TotalMix applet will allow you to set up an all-digital loopback of an output to an input. Assign the audio metronome that output, and you can record it on a track assigned to the corresponding input. Check the RME's documentation if you're not clear on how to set up the loop. Or maybe someone with an RME can step and walk you through it.

I tried the Rube Goldberg, side-chain gambit at home last night...

It works!!

Nice. I salute your ingenuity.

thanks for the tips chaps.
i'll try the suggestions today.

might just make my own beat with a wooden spoon and a table....

cheers
s

darkmatter2


I found this thread upon searching and gave it a go in sonar X1.  Everything seems correct, however when I arm the MetronomeTrack for recording, it automatically picks an input (in this case my M-Audio Firewire410) and upon recording, records silence.  How do you get it to record the sidechain??

Thanks!

I thought I was pretty sure I had made this work before.  It was probably in SONAR 7 when (I think) sidechaining was first introduced.  I've tried to replicate that recently...and haven't gotten there.  I tried in X1 and in 8.5 with no luck.  Now, I'm wondering how I did it.
 
When you record a track, you can monitor it with the FX, but (I think) it goes to disk pre-FX.  That would mean that anything added through the FX chain (the Metronome signal coming through the comp's sidechain) doesn't go to "tape".
 
(Was I doing a real time bounce to make this work?)

Cactus Music


For those wondering why! I got so used to the sound of a song I was building once and until I exported it discovered it was the metronome??, It was a fluke but it became an important driving force to the song. What I went looking for was the audio file that plays that particular clip- clop sound. Did not find it even using search so gave up and did the loop back method. But does anybody know where Sonar plays the audio file from?? Somewhere must be a file called "metronome .wave" If we find it that would solve the problem, just add it to Session drummers sound bank.

The 38 different samples used by GroovePlayer.dll to render the metronome are located in...
 
c:\Documents and Settings\<userID>\Application Data\Cakewalk\SONAR<version>\Metronome
 
...at least, that's where they are for those of us that are still on XP.  I can't help you if you're on Vista or Win7.

I use the following cal script to do all kinds of inserts of midi notes. Then can use the PR and filters to change note pitch, value,...  And then send to what ever sound, and bounce to tracks as desired.
 
This scipt is set to use 960 ticks per quarter note.
 
Use notepad to save to "insert qtr C5.cal" in the cal folder.
 
Edit as needed to change length (currently 20 minutes), channel number (6), note value (C5, note length (20 ticks), and beat (currently qtr).
 
The semi colon (;) indicates a commented line, it does not execute. Remove/change as desired.
 
Change which TIMENOW line is used to set note: can insert 1/8, 1/4, 1/2, on the 1, and on the every other 1. And then save to a new name for future use.
 
Tabs used for indenting lines, removed here by the forum software. Easier to read with tabs.
==================
Example of use:
insert on the 1
clone track 4 times
move each track to different beat of 4
 
clone 8 times
 move each track to spots to trigger triplets
 change the midi note pitch of each track
 send to drums, piano,...
-------
do the same with the every other 1
 
use another cal script to then remove every 3rd note from each track
 
use two timenow lines to "randomize" when notes are inserted
 
and so on
 
lots of unique rythym and melody accidents
 
==================
 
;;   insert qtr C5.cal
(do    
 ;; initialize variables   
 (dword LengthSpace 2)   
 (dword LengthSecond 1)   
 (dword TimeNow 0)   
 (dword TimeTotal 0)   
 (dword TimeEnd 0)   
 (dword BeatsPM 0)   
 (dword TicksPQ 0)   
 (int ChannelNumber 0)   
 ;;;;;; set known variables   
 ;;   
;; (getInt ChannelNumber "ChannelNumber:  " 0 15)    ;; could be used to have user input
 ;;
 
 ;; set default values   
 (= TimeNow 0)   
 (= TimeTotal 20)   
 (= TimeEnd 0)   
 (= BeatsPM 120)   
 (= TicksPQ 960)   
 (= ChannelNumber 6)      ;; change for different midi channel
 
 ;;    
 ;; convert time to ticks    
 (= TimeEnd (* BeatsPM TicksPQ))   
 ;; (pause "TimeEnd " TimeEnd)  
 ;;    
 (= TimeEnd (* TimeEnd TimeTotal))   
 ;; (pause "TimeEnd " TimeEnd)  
 ;;   
 ;;LENGTHs change SECONDS to ticks   
 ;;   
;; (= LengthSecond (* (* LengthSecond TicksPQ) (/ BeatsPM 60)))   
 ;; (pause "LengthSecond " LengthSecond)  
 ;;   
;; (= LengthSpace (* (* LengthSpace TicksPQ) (/ BeatsPM 60)))   
 ;; (pause "LengthSpace " LengthSpace)  
 ;;   
 (= TimeNow 0)      ;; 1st time through loop
 (do   
  (while (< TimeNow TimeEnd)  
   (do 
 
;;      (insert TimeNow ChannelNumber NOTE 52 127 10)
    (insert TimeNow ChannelNumber NOTE 72 127 20)           ;; C5   ;; change for note pitch, volume level, length
;;     (insert TimeNow ChannelNumber NOTE 64 127 1000)
;;     (insert TimeNow ChannelNumber NOTE 76 127 1000)
 
;;    (= TimeNow (+ TimeNow (+ LengthSecond LengthSpace)))   ;; could be used with setting these way above
;;    (= TimeNow (+ TimeNow 480))      ;; eighth notes
    (= TimeNow (+ TimeNow 960))         ;; qtr notes
;;    (= TimeNow (+ TimeNow 1920))        ;; on the 1/2
;;    (= TimeNow (+ TimeNow 3840))      ;; on the one
;;    (= TimeNow (+ TimeNow 7680))      ;; on the one of every other measure
;;
    ;; (pause "TimeNow " TimeNow )
    ;;
    
   ) 
  )  
 )   
)    
 

Send the metronome bus to an output, record it on a new track.

May need to adjust for timing.

 

paganini1840
The way to do that is simple...
 

Welcome to the forum, Pierre, but be aware you're answering an 8-year-old post with a 4-year-old follow-up.
Bumping ancient threads can create a lot of confusion and wasted effort, and is best avoided unless absolutely necessary.

paganini1840
HI 
 
The way to do that is simple
First create a Metronome track in the BUS section
go to preference and use audio metronome and assign the output to your Metronome BUS
in the Metronome BUS insert an new AUX
create a new new track and choose AUX 1 in your Input put it on RECORD et Voila !
 
Pierre

You sir... are a genius. Thank you
I'm reading a lot of different ideas here and this one worked. I appreciate the input.
I don't see it so  much as "causing confusion" but another good idea or approach. 
 Maybe mark this post as answered? Or remove the ones that aren't relevant. The CAL SCRIPTS/// now that was confusing
lol
I am still looking for a way to just record the click on mixdown though. The documentation only describes recording metronome to an audio track. Waste of time