RESOLVED (thanks to Freeze1st): Window's Apps and Services You'd Like Temporarily Disabled

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2010/06/05 17:32:55 (permalink)

RESOLVED (thanks to Freeze1st): Window's Apps and Services You'd Like Temporarily Disabled

Bitflipper mentioned a few.  Jose mentioned others (services).  The following seem your/my temp enemies
  
AVG Resident Shield (or other antivirus)
All Networking (and BlueTooth)
 
I'm hoping for a list of apps and/or services that you think may definitely hurt your/my Sonar experience.  Please focus on Windows 7/64 or Windows XP-32.
 
I'll try to write (and share) 2 VBScripts that will:
 
1) Temporarily batch disable everything (except your virus checker ... which seems to require manual disablement) ... and launch Sonar
 
2) Re-enable everything that was disabled (except your virus checker ... which seems to require manual enablement)
 
Thanks for any thoughts, chimes, validations, etc.  (Don't worry about feeling stupid ... I may be the stupidest)
post edited by Philip - 2010/06/07 17:13:14

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    Re:Window's Apps and Services You'd Like Temporarily 'Disabled' During Sonar 2010/06/05 20:52:15 (permalink)
    I use a package called "TUT" 

    Great stuff...

    http://www.answersthatwork.com/TUT_pages/TUT_information.htm


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    Re:Window's Apps and Services You'd Like Temporarily 'Disabled' During Sonar 2010/06/05 22:44:38 (permalink)
    Cool concept.... this has been a recurring issue on every computer I've ever had...and the longer I own a machine the slower it gets and I have understood that it is due to background stuff that loads and runs....and the issue is I don;t know what to shut down or remove.....


    I'm downloading the demo...thanks Robby

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    Re:Window's Apps and Services You'd Like Temporarily 'Disabled' During Sonar 2010/06/05 22:50:22 (permalink)
    Cool concept.... this has been a recurring issue on every computer I've ever had...and the longer I own a machine the slower it gets and I have understood that it is due to background stuff that loads and runs....and the issue is I don;t know what to shut down or remove.....


    I'm downloading the demo...thanks Robby

    Oh well.... so much for that... it refused to install.

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    Re:Window's Apps and Services You'd Like Temporarily 'Disabled' During Sonar 2010/06/05 22:59:47 (permalink)
    Thanks D'OH,

    I looked at Tut, its apparently meant for XP-32.  Yet, its given me ideas for 'services' to disable/enable with VBScript.  Now if only it worked for my Win7-64 ... which contains a lot of DellWare which may be slowing things down during Sonar.

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    Re:Window's Apps and Services You'd Like Temporarily 'Disabled' During Sonar 2010/06/06 01:36:10 (permalink)
    Add Windows Defender, Windows Firewall, printing crap, and more to your disable list. . It's so tiring to turn them all of. And does anyone know how to turn of autorun.exe? I mailed Dave (bit) about this before, but i couldn't track the mail, and i also forgot the answer.
     
    I also remove the Card Viewer (phonebook thingy), windows ready boost, the sidebar, almost everything that isn't related. But most of what i removed were never turned back on anyway, except for the Anti-Virus, defender and the firewall, which i needed when connecting to the net. I just wish i had a laptop so that i have something to use for my net other than my DAW, so i can keep it of the net and turn off everything i don't need permanently.
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    Re:Window's Apps and Services You'd Like Temporarily 'Disabled' During Sonar 2010/06/06 01:37:42 (permalink)
    Philip


    Thanks D'OH,

    I looked at Tut, its apparently meant for XP-32.  Yet, its given me ideas for 'services' to disable/enable with VBScript.  Now if only it worked for my Win7-64 ... which contains a lot of DellWare which may be slowing things down during Sonar.

    Just use XP32 and you're golden?

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    Re:Window's Apps and Services You'd Like Temporarily 'Disabled' During Sonar 2010/06/06 01:43:38 (permalink)
    It also pisses me off that whenever i turn of my AV, it's still on the running services list. And so is the firewall and defender. I have to restart my pc just to put them to their temporary death. *Sigh*

    Hey Phil, about your internet killswitch script, does it turn off my internet only, or does it disable the LAN card itself so that my connection stops?

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    Re:Window's Apps and Services You'd Like Temporarily 'Disabled' During Sonar 2010/06/06 14:03:56 (permalink)
    D'Oh!, I'll return to XP-32 when a time warp occurs.

    SeveredVesper; I will try to incorporate most of your 'enemies' in the VBScript updates (as they are also my enemies) ... once God shows me the code via googling.

    OTOH: You and others will have to place a single quote (') in front of any visual basic line ('enemy') that you don't want disabled/enabled.

    SeveredVesper:  I believe the code I shared does not kill web instances.  But, I incidentally have been playing with a VBScript which (safely) kills all webs only:

    strComputer = "."
    strProcessToKill = "iexplore.exe"
    Set objWMIService = GetObject("winmgmts:" _
     & "{impersonationLevel=impersonate}!\\" _
     & strComputer & "\root\cimv2")
    Set colProcess = objWMIService.ExecQuery _
     ("Select * from Win32_Process Where Name = '" & strProcessToKill & "'")
    count = 0
    For Each objProcess in colProcess
     objProcess.Terminate()
     count = count + 1
    Next
    wscript.echo "Killed " & count & " instances of " & _
     strProcessToKill & "on " & strComputer
     
    --------------------------------------------------------------
     
    So, I'll probably attempt to incorporate this code into the next VBScript disable.  (95% of the time I wouldn't love offline web sites looming behind Sonar.), Lord-willing.
     
    Thank you for your most excellent list of potential 'enemies' of Sonar.

    Note to SeveredVesper: Open Windows Device Manager Network sub-menu.  When you run the disable VBScript you will see your 'working' network adapter become disabled.  And vice-versa when you hit your enable VBScript.
     
    VBScript is worth a little bit of geeky study (which I'm confident any Sonarite can handle).
    AV software is troublesome; I use AVG Free and must manually uncheck/recheck "Resident Shield" (which controls Win Defender). 
     
    As far as disabling the firewall ... I don't even know anything about that.  I suppose I'd leave it on (hoping its not a Sonar 'enemy').
    To disable autoplay: http://autorun.moonvalley.com/enable.htm
    Just rightclick the CD drive in explorer and choose what to disable. 
     
    Of course, I will attempt VBScript to temp disable CDs, Portable devices, Printers, and maybe some other sound and/or game controllers.
    post edited by Philip - 2010/06/06 16:15:25

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    Re:Window's Apps and Services You'd Like Temporarily 'Disabled' During Sonar 2010/06/06 19:53:10 (permalink)
    erm...i keep my wireless connection on. and my anti-virus. sometimes i'll have a webpage open. nothing special turned off. on my i5/s8.5/win 7 x64/4gb ram...never get above 50% cpu use, even on the biggest projects. only time i get crashes is due to bitbridge, and even that is me trying to do multiple adjustments whilst projects are playing.
    clearly those of you who run big sample libs may have different experiences...

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    Re:Window's Apps and Services You'd Like Temporarily 'Disabled' During Sonar 2010/06/06 21:03:42 (permalink)
    +1, MGH.  I'm the same as you (per se/most of the time)

    No VBScript shoe will fit everyone ... also, any VBScript must be adjusted by each user as every Windows process and service is intricate per DAW and computer.  I'll spare you.

    A VBScript one day may be a blessing; the next day it may seem worthless.  By sci-method there are hypothetical benefits that seem worth testing further ...

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    Re:Window's Apps and Services You'd Like Temporarily 'Disabled' During Sonar 2010/06/06 21:34:39 (permalink)
    There's no need to run antivirus software at all...so you can really just uninstall all of that stuff
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    Re:Window's Apps and Services You'd Like Temporarily 'Disabled' During Sonar 2010/06/06 23:17:15 (permalink)
    WARNING: I downloaded ONE thing last night.... the TUT program..... I'm running a virus scan right now because my virus software detected problems.... as of right now 12 viruses have been quarantined, and the scan is still running.....

     

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    Re:Window's Apps and Services You'd Like Temporarily 'Disabled' During Sonar 2010/06/07 01:40:40 (permalink)
    Guitarhacker,

    Thanks for the warning.

    Sorry if I in any way contributed to this.  I searched the web for other users benefiting from 'Tut' and/or having problems with it.  I could find neither. 

    (After updated AV scans you may want to restore your computer to its prior state; then re-check for suspicious processes in task manager.)

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    Re:Window's Apps and Services You'd Like Temporarily 'Disabled' During Sonar 2010/06/07 07:43:31 (permalink)
    Yeah.... I am not 100% sure but that is the only thing I down loaded recently to my laptop. Then that warning popped up and the scan showed up 12 as of last night..... all properly caught by the virus software.


    I'll do that Philip.

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    Re:Window's Apps and Services You'd Like Temporarily 'Disabled' During Sonar 2010/06/07 12:22:56 (permalink)
    Well I run it with no problems? And I have virus scanners? And I know others who run it as well. Sorry you're having problems Herb. I can't imagine a software vendor who is selling you a product who would deliberately place virus on your system? That would seem orthogonal to increasing sales? It would be like Cake giving you a virus with their new product they're pushing? It would seem counter intuitive. 

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    Re:Window's Apps and Services You'd Like Temporarily 'Disabled' During Sonar 2010/06/07 12:43:25 (permalink)
    Guitarhacker


    Yeah.... I am not 100% sure but that is the only thing I down loaded recently to my laptop. Then that warning popped up and the scan showed up 12 as of last night..... all properly caught by the virus software.


    I'll do that Philip.


    Sorry to hear you are having virus warnings. Anything you download or that is sent to you, you can upload it for free to a site called "Virus Total ", they scan the file online with just about every commercial virus testing program on the market and tell if you they detect anything. There is however a 20mb file size limit. It's really fast, I use it all the time. There's a few other sites that do that but I like Virus Total the best, it's never failed me.

    I send everything I can to be scanned there. It's interesting if it finds something to see which ones catch the virus, to me that says a lot as to which Virus protection I will be using.

    The three highest rated companies that have "FREE ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION" don't catch a majority of what's out there surprisingly according to the Virus Total scan results from the various Anti-Virus scans it does.

    It's just an excellent tool to check 20mb or smaller files.

    I also use Trend Micro's House Call Trend Micro's House Call Link from time to time just as an xtra precautions, it's free and will do a full scan and more importantly "CLEAN" the viruses if any are found.

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    Re:Window's Apps and Services You'd Like Temporarily 'Disabled' During Sonar 2010/06/07 12:50:53 (permalink)

     If you use "Vista or Windows 7" you can use Vista Services Optimizer , it's got several ways to configure what you want to turn on or off.
    If you use "Ready Boost" just make sure you turn don't have it set to turn that off. If you don't use Ready Boost but think you might in the future you might wanna leave that on, because if you turn it off and purchase a flash drive "Ready Boost Compatible" and forget you turned it off it could be irritating trying to figure out why it's not giving you the option.

    As with ANY program that makes changes to your computer "MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A GOOD BACKUP OF YOUR ENTIRE SYSTEM BEFORE CHANGING THINGS", not just system restore.

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    Re:Window's Apps and Services You'd Like Temporarily 'Disabled' During Sonar 2010/06/07 14:43:14 (permalink)
    Freeze, thanks for chiming here; very thoughtful help here.

    I still ponder if it wouldn't it be hypothetically better to have one 'optional batch file' click do it all ... including launching Sonar?  And one click to  'batch file' undo it all?

    I run a gaming DAW with a Windows (7) Experience Index of 7.6

    Even it has issues with backround processes; benign ones. 

    The Vista Services Optimizer appears as a very cool free tool; I'll certainly research it ... and report.  Again, thanks Freeze, for your most excellent thoughts!
     
    EDIT 1:
     
    OK, Freeze, I'm getting promising results from using Vista Services Optimizer (for my Win7/64).  And its not expectation bias.  I did a Windows 'disk-clean' to my computer beforehand. 
     
    After I
    (1) performed the VSO diagnositic questionere
    (2) and hit the optimize button,
    (3) I rebooted my computer. 
     
    Win7/64 and Sonar 64 are now both launching faster.
     
    Hypothesis: It may be I won't have to re-invent the wheel for myself/others with batch files ... if my initial results remain consistent.
     
    And I haven't even tried the "Gaming Mode" yet.
     
    If this keeps up, I will not share my batch scripts.  Also, this seems the only free-app out there that does what I need.
     
    But, I'm still winking and crossing my fingers.
    EDIT 2:
     
    Gaming Mode: Takes about 10 seconds to stop additional "Unnecessary Windows services" (from a user friendly list). 
     
    A CPU intensive song of mine (EvoTrash) roughly ranges:
    Normal Mode: 16-26%
    Gaming Mode: 15-25%
     
    Gaming mode frees my CPU 1%, FWIW.
     
    Conclusion(s):
    For now (today at least ... probably indefinitely), I'll count my blessings with Vista Services Optimizer and not burden any of you with my 'inferior' scripts and batch files.  Today, I'll validate Freeze1st, and strongly recommend this free-ap.
     
    I consider this thread solved/re-solved (for today at least).
    post edited by Philip - 2010/06/07 17:11:38

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    Re:Window's Apps and Services You'd Like Temporarily 'Disabled' During Sonar 2010/06/07 18:46:43 (permalink)
    OK...warning update..... my bad....

    here's what happened.  My Virus sigs updated the same evening. The TUT program did not load but also was NOT the cause of the problem. It seems...after speaking to 2 different tech support depts at  CA and the vendor who's software was the apparent infected programs.... Native Instruments.... it seems that CA has a hueristic thing that ID's similar code to viruses. And that's exactly what happened. many legit programs use code that is similar to some viruses and does things that viruses tend to do, but for a legit reason.

    Subsequent scans following the advice of CA have come up clean. Now I reset the hueristic settings, scan again and exclude those files from future scans.....

    Sorry for the mix up.....  seeing 12 "viruses" in your beloved DAW really tends to freak a person out.

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    Re:Window's Apps and Services You'd Like Temporarily 'Disabled' During Sonar 2010/06/07 19:47:12 (permalink)
    LOL! I understand, DAW problems blow donkeys... I think TUT RULES! :-) It shows you "everything" that's running and gives you a nice little write up about it, and let's you have options about how to treat it, "good stuff TUT". :-) And no, I don't work for them or own stock :-) I think you'll like that SW.

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    Re:Window's Apps and Services You'd Like Temporarily 'Disabled' During Sonar 2010/06/08 14:32:59 (permalink)
    I have had "Winpatrol" Scotty the watchdog for several years.  It has two purposes:  It tells you when something wants install in the reg to autoexec, and you can look at what programs are running, what cpu they use, and close them.  Its not automated like  bat file but I think a bat file would need to be told what to close - and this changes or you don't even know.
    If you write a nice VB routine that works, you should compile and offer the link.  I don't have VBasic.
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