BigJguitar
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REmixing older recording?
Since I have had a really bad ear infection for the last 3 weeks I have been catching up with sonar x3 as well as learning mixing mastering and in depth effects explainations over at Groove3.com. Even though I usually just post my songs to Reverbnation or Soundcloud, is it worth remixing those old tunes again with new ears?
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Karyn
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Re: REmixing older recording?
2014/06/12 04:35:54
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If you remix your own stuff there's a good chance that all you'll get is more of the same. You have a pre-conceived idea of what it should sound like, which will be what it sounded like before. New ears or not.
If you genuinely think some old mixes could be improved, or you just want a fresh look, give them to someone else that's never heard them before.
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Kalle Rantaaho
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Re: REmixing older recording?
2014/06/12 05:39:34
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IMO, going back to old projects is fruitful only if there's been a drastic improvement in your equipment or studio environment. If you've tossed away Behringer Truths and have the big Genelecs and a treated studio instead of the good old closet, then it can really make sense.
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craigb
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Re: REmixing older recording?
2014/06/12 11:05:38
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I intend to go back once I'm actually proficient on my instruments. So probably somewhere in the year 2037? 
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bapu
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Re: REmixing older recording?
2014/06/12 11:18:40
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craigb
I intend to go back once I'm actually proficient on my instruments. So probably somewhere in the year 2037?
When I grow up I wanna be ewe.
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Re: REmixing older recording?
2014/06/12 11:21:20
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BigJguitar
Since I have had a really bad ear infection for the last 3 weeks I have been catching up with sonar x3 as well as learning mixing mastering and in depth effects explainations over at Groove3.com. Even though I usually just post my songs to Reverbnation or Soundcloud, is it worth remixing those old tunes again with new ears?
I did it last year HERE I felt I improved the song by 20-40%.
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bapu
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Re: REmixing older recording?
2014/06/12 11:26:13
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Karyn
If you remix your own stuff there's a good chance that all you'll get is more of the same. You have a pre-conceived idea of what it should sound like, which will be what it sounded like before. New ears or not.
If you genuinely think some old mixes could be improved, or you just want a fresh look, give them to someone else that's never heard them before.
See post #6.
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Re: REmixing older recording?
2014/06/12 11:34:20
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BigJguitar
Since I have had a really bad ear infection for the last 3 weeks I have been catching up with sonar x3 as well as learning mixing mastering and in depth effects explainations over at Groove3.com. Even though I usually just post my songs to Reverbnation or Soundcloud, is it worth remixing those old tunes again with new ears?
I did it last year HERE
I felt I improved the song by 20-40%.
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Re: REmixing older recording?
2014/06/12 11:37:18
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i think it's ALWAYS WORTH REMIXING.
you always see/hear it from a new perspective, and when you are LEARNING....
this is a good thing.
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Karyn
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Re: REmixing older recording?
2014/06/12 11:42:46
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Karyn
If you remix your own stuff there's a good chance that all you'll get is more of the same. You have a pre-conceived idea of what it should sound like, which will be what it sounded like before. New ears or not.
If you genuinely think some old mixes could be improved, or you just want a fresh look, give them to someone else that's never heard them before.
See post #6.
See post #2.
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craigb
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Re: REmixing older recording?
2014/06/12 11:46:39
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craigb
I intend to go back once I'm actually proficient on my instruments. So probably somewhere in the year 2037?
When I grow up I wanna be ewe.
Careful, you'll end up being chased by a lot of New Zealander and Welsh males!
Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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bapu
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Re: REmixing older recording?
2014/06/12 12:04:54
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Karyn
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Karyn
If you remix your own stuff there's a good chance that all you'll get is more of the same. You have a pre-conceived idea of what it should sound like, which will be what it sounded like before. New ears or not.
If you genuinely think some old mixes could be improved, or you just want a fresh look, give them to someone else that's never heard them before.
See post #6.
See post #2.
See post #7.
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Re: REmixing older recording?
2014/06/12 12:30:22
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Sometimes I do remix old projects, usually right after learning some new technique or acquiring a new plugin. Starting with an existing project lets you dive right in to the mixing process.
As Karyn cautions, sometimes I merely fall into the same mistakes the second time around. However, most of the time I manage to improve on the original mix, sometimes dramatically. I've even salvaged a couple long-discarded "failed" projects.
You don't necessarily need new monitors to hear things differently. Your ears are getting trained every day whether you're consciously aware of it or not. You'll therefore hear subtleties today that you didn't hear a few years ago.
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bapu
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Re: REmixing older recording?
2014/06/12 12:41:08
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bitflipper
Sometimes I do remix old projects, usually right after learning some new technique or acquiring a new plugin. Starting with an existing project lets you dive right in to the mixing process.
As Karyn cautions, sometimes I merely fall into the same mistakes the second time around. However, most of the time I manage to improve on the original mix, sometimes dramatically. I've even salvaged a couple long-discarded "failed" projects.
You don't necessarily need new monitors to hear things differently. Your ears are getting trained every day whether you're consciously aware of it or not. You'll therefore hear subtleties today that you didn't hear a few years ago.
So Karyn is right and she's wrong? You truly are The Bitflipper.
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craigb
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Re: REmixing older recording?
2014/06/12 13:58:44
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bapu
bitflipper
Sometimes I do remix old projects, usually right after learning some new technique or acquiring a new plugin. Starting with an existing project lets you dive right in to the mixing process.
As Karyn cautions, sometimes I merely fall into the same mistakes the second time around. However, most of the time I manage to improve on the original mix, sometimes dramatically. I've even salvaged a couple long-discarded "failed" projects.
You don't necessarily need new monitors to hear things differently. Your ears are getting trained every day whether you're consciously aware of it or not. You'll therefore hear subtleties today that you didn't hear a few years ago.
So Karyn is right and she's wrong?
You truly are The Bitflipper.
No, Karyn has guns and knows how to use them, so Karyn is always right (even should she be proven to be wrong on something). 
Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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paulo
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Re: REmixing older recording?
2014/06/12 15:36:24
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bitflipper
Sometimes I do remix old projects, usually right after learning some new technique or acquiring a new plugin. Starting with an existing project lets you dive right in to the mixing process.
You don't necessarily need new monitors to hear things differently. Your ears are getting trained every day whether you're consciously aware of it or not. You'll therefore hear subtleties today that you didn't hear a few years ago.
Totally agree. I listen to some old mixes that I used to be reasonably pleased with and now I wonder what the hell I was thinking. On the other hand, once the horror of remembering that I actually played those to people with some degree of pride has abated, it cheers me up as it shows that while I am still very far from an expert, I have at least improved and a bit more of this stuff has actually sunk in than it sometimes feels like.
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Karyn
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Re: REmixing older recording?
2014/06/12 18:56:51
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Karyn
If you remix your own stuff there's a good chance that all you'll get is more of the same. You have a pre-conceived idea of what it should sound like, which will be what it sounded like before. New ears or not.
If you genuinely think some old mixes could be improved, or you just want a fresh look, give them to someone else that's never heard them before.
See post #6.
See post #2.
See post #7.
See post #10.
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BigJguitar
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Re: REmixing older recording?
2014/06/12 21:19:41
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well thanks for the input guys & gals! I do think some of my mixes can and should be improved on. I have also learned more "proper" techniques I should say, and think that I would be happier with revisiting some of my not so old works. I have been getting in depth with using Ozone 5 advanced for mastering, as well as catching up on better mixing & busing. Even the new Melodyne software looks way easier to use then V-vocal, with more options, I think as soon as I have the $$$ Ill upgrade to the advanced version of it.
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bapu
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Re: REmixing older recording?
2014/06/13 11:17:35
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Karyn
bapu
Karyn
bapu
Karyn
If you remix your own stuff there's a good chance that all you'll get is more of the same. You have a pre-conceived idea of what it should sound like, which will be what it sounded like before. New ears or not.
If you genuinely think some old mixes could be improved, or you just want a fresh look, give them to someone else that's never heard them before.
See post #6.
See post #2.
See post #7.
See post #10.
See post 13.
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craigb
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Re: REmixing older recording?
2014/06/13 13:59:40
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Re: REmixing older recording?
2014/06/13 14:22:54
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Karyn
If you remix your own stuff there's a good chance that all you'll get is more of the same. You have a pre-conceived idea of what it should sound like, which will be what it sounded like before. New ears or not.
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Agreed. I was going to use my writing example, and the answer is ... NOPE. Essentially, for me, that "moment" is long gone, and today I feel different, and "re-living" that moment is not the same thing, meaning that you will always find a different way of "saying it", or "playing it", or "writing it". In 30 years, I have never been able to re-write a single poem, a single story or even a single film review of the 500 I got! I've fixed a little English here and there, and even that didn't feel as "right" as what was there before. You've changed since then! However slight that change might be! I look at those "past" pieces, EXACTLY the same way I do looking at photographs of those days and the like! It is that time and place! Over and out! Only Am and Cowbell don't change? 
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kennywtelejazz
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Re: REmixing older recording?
2014/06/14 00:19:20
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I would say go for it and remix some of your music …
if you want to get some feedback …..post your efforts over at the songs forum ….
Kenny
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