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M.G. Max Output Level: -89 dBFS Total Posts : 87 Joined: 2007/01/28 12:56:16 Status: offline 2014/03/29 19:29:22 (permalink) RSO Vocal Magic? I've been away from recording for about five years. I'm going to upgrade to Sonar X3 Studio (from Sonar 8.5 Studio) this weekend, and was looking to upgrade some of my "go-to" plugins. I thought RSO's Vocal Magic was an excellent vocal processor... I was looking for the latest version and can't find any info. Did they discontinue Vocal Magic? If so, can anyone recommend a similar product I can use instead? Thanks!! #1 21 Replies Related Threads
cclarry Max Output Level: 0 dBFS Total Posts : 20964 Joined: 2012/02/07 09:42:07 Status: offline Re: RSO Vocal Magic? 2014/03/29 20:35:05 (permalink) Obviously Antares AutoTune... Nectar Elements AND...if you want the BEST... Melodyne Editor....$349....if you buy X3 Producer you get Melodyne Essential and an upgrade to Editor for $149...well worth it in both cases...IMO... There is a learning curve..but you won't regret it...l post edited by cclarry - 2014/03/29 21:32:13 #2
bitflipper 01100010 01101001 01110100 01100110 01101100 01101 Total Posts : 26036 Joined: 2006/09/17 11:23:23 Location: Everett, WA USA Status: offline Re: RSO Vocal Magic? 2014/03/29 22:15:51 (permalink) KVR's plugin database lists it as "no longer available". Looking at its features, it would seem that iZotope Alloy 2 might be a suitable replacement. All else is in doubt, so this is the truth I cling to. My Stuff #3
M.G. Max Output Level: -89 dBFS Total Posts : 87 Joined: 2007/01/28 12:56:16 Status: offline Re: RSO Vocal Magic? 2014/03/30 00:15:51 (permalink) cclary - thanks for your advice. Vocal Magic was more of a reverb/delay processor though... it didn't affect pitch. bitflipper - I'll check out Alloy 2 Thanks guys! #4
Glyn Barnes Max Output Level: -0.3 dBFS Total Posts : 7564 Joined: 2009/06/10 05:12:31 Location: A Stone's Throw from the Line Status: offline Re: RSO Vocal Magic? 2014/03/30 04:28:03 (permalink) VX-64 vocal strip is included with Sonar. It has delay, EQ, de-esser, doubler and compressor/expander. Might be worth checking out. I do all instrumentals so I can't say how good it is. Intel i7 3770K @4.4GHz, 32GB RAM, 240GB SSD System disk, 2 x 2TB and 1 x 1TB (with SSD Cache) HDD. Windows 10, Sonar Platinum. Roland Quad Capture. Music - Switchwater on Soundclick Music - Goldry Bluszco on Soundcloud #5
cclarry Max Output Level: 0 dBFS Total Posts : 20964 Joined: 2012/02/07 09:42:07 Status: offline Re: RSO Vocal Magic? 2014/03/30 08:29:49 (permalink) M.G. cclary - thanks for your advice. Vocal Magic was more of a reverb/delay processor though... it didn't affect pitch. bitflipper - I'll check out Alloy 2 Thanks guys! My bad...had no idea, and just assumed it was an older pitch correction... However, Nectar and Nectar Elements does have both pitch correction and reverb/processing. VX-64 Vocal Strip also has Reverb, Delay, De-esser, etc, and is included with X3, as Gyn pointed out, so that would be the most "economical" solution. #6
M.G. Max Output Level: -89 dBFS Total Posts : 87 Joined: 2007/01/28 12:56:16 Status: offline Re: RSO Vocal Magic? 2014/03/30 15:20:20 (permalink) Thanks again. VX-64 Vocal Strip looks good but I don't think it comes with X3 Studio... that's what I'm planning to upgrade to. It's only $49... Producer has VX-64 and some other cool features but I'm not sure it's worth the extra hundred dollars (its upgrade price is $149). Or is it worth it to upgrade to producer?? Thanks! #7
bapu Max Output Level: 0 dBFS Total Posts : 86000 Joined: 2006/11/25 21:23:28 Location: Thousand Oaks, CA Status: offline Re: RSO Vocal Magic? 2014/03/30 15:44:05 (permalink) M.G. Or is it worth it to upgrade to producer?? Thanks! You decide: https://www.cakewalk.com/products/sonar/versions.aspx If you don't already have direct/suitable replacements for the 12 items in Pro that are not in Studio then they are def worth more than $100, IMO. My name is Ed. I Am still bapu though. My Studio w ww.beyondmydaw.com The Forum Monkeys BJZ BBZ The Coffee House Collaborators Fizzy Pickle The Coffee House Band Stan Dupp and The Jennifer Tillies BAPU #8
cclarry Max Output Level: 0 dBFS Total Posts : 20964 Joined: 2012/02/07 09:42:07 Status: offline Re: RSO Vocal Magic? 2014/03/30 16:11:24 (permalink) M.G. Thanks again. VX-64 Vocal Strip looks good but I don't think it comes with X3 Studio... that's what I'm planning to upgrade to. It's only $49... Producer has VX-64 and some other cool features but I'm not sure it's worth the extra hundred dollars (its upgrade price is $149). Or is it worth it to upgrade to producer?? Thanks! I don't know what version you currently have... But if you can get Producer, by all means do. You get Addictive Drums, TH2 Producer, many of the PC Modules, and all the "bells and whistles....for a few dollars more...well worth it if you can make the stretch... #9
M.G. Max Output Level: -89 dBFS Total Posts : 87 Joined: 2007/01/28 12:56:16 Status: offline Re: RSO Vocal Magic? 2014/03/30 17:26:05 (permalink) I currently have Sonar 8.5 Studio. I was looking at the X3 Pro features... is tape saturation, console emulator and tube emulator as useful as they seem? If they do what the Cakewalk website says they - along with Vocal Strip - might be worth the extra $100. I really do appreciate the advice and insight offered here! #10
cclarry Max Output Level: 0 dBFS Total Posts : 20964 Joined: 2012/02/07 09:42:07 Status: offline Re: RSO Vocal Magic? 2014/03/30 18:44:44 (permalink) M.G., The PC modules alone are worth the extra hundred...Tape Saturator, Console Emulator, and the Flyout QuadCurve EQ....just the EQ is worthy... Then you get ALL the Nomad Factor BlueTubes plugins (even though they are locked to Sonar), TH2 Producer, Breverb Sonar, Melodyne Essential, and Addictive Drums....Addictive Drums sells for $149 alone when not on sale... The BlueTubes Bundle is another couple of hundred, TH2, Breverb,..AND the Flyout QuadCurve. It's a plethora of Plugins, not to mention all the improvements to the program itself like VST 3 support, ARA Integration, etc...it's a bonanza....if I were going to do ONE upgrade and didn't have this... THIS WOULD BE IT. It didn't offer as much to those of us who have been using it since X1, but for anyone else... THIS IS A STEAL.... Do it...you won't regret it.... Be forewarned...it's very different from 8.5...but well worth learning... I recommend Scott Garrigus "Sonar X3 Power", which comes out soon... Also, get the SWA X3 Video Bundle from the Cake store for $19.99...that's a steal! http://www.store.cakewalk.com/b2cus/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=30-SASX3.00-30E These are by our own fellow forum member Karl Rose AKA FastBikerBoy....and will have you using up and running with all the new stuff in no time... Cheers!!! #11
Bajan Blue Max Output Level: -55 dBFS Total Posts : 2029 Joined: 2005/09/15 20:54:56 Location: Barbados & Cape Town Status: offline Re: RSO Vocal Magic? 2014/03/31 04:16:56 (permalink) M.G. Can only agree 100% with what Larry says. Nigel Nigel Check out the first single from our new Album, On Top of the World https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTLVCOeTcTc Check out our latest videos on http://www.youtube.com/user/DevineLie/videos Check out our website www.devinelie.com #12
Glyn Barnes Max Output Level: -0.3 dBFS Total Posts : 7564 Joined: 2009/06/10 05:12:31 Location: A Stone's Throw from the Line Status: offline Re: RSO Vocal Magic? 2014/03/31 04:36:12 (permalink) Yes - you get a lot for the extra $100 between Studio and producer, of course its only good value if you are going to use enough of it. Even if you do not use the virtual instruments I think there is still plenty of value in the Producer package. The extra pro channel modules alone make it worthwhile IMHO. Nomad factory Blue Tubes and Melodyne Essential are included in Studio however, some posts may have implied they are exclusive to Producer. Intel i7 3770K @4.4GHz, 32GB RAM, 240GB SSD System disk, 2 x 2TB and 1 x 1TB (with SSD Cache) HDD. Windows 10, Sonar Platinum. Roland Quad Capture. Music - Switchwater on Soundclick Music - Goldry Bluszco on Soundcloud #13
Mesh Max Output Level: 0 dBFS Total Posts : 27360 Joined: 2009/11/27 14:08:08 Location: Online right here! Status: offline Re: RSO Vocal Magic? 2014/03/31 09:17:57 (permalink) cclarry M.G., The PC modules alone are worth the extra hundred...Tape Saturator, Console Emulator, and the Flyout QuadCurve EQ....just the EQ is worthy... Then you get ALL the Nomad Factor BlueTubes plugins (even though they are locked to Sonar), TH2 Producer, Breverb Sonar, Melodyne Essential, and Addictive Drums....Addictive Drums sells for $149 alone when not on sale... The BlueTubes Bundle is another couple of hundred, TH2, Breverb,..AND the Flyout QuadCurve. It's a plethora of Plugins, not to mention all the improvements to the program itself like VST 3 support, ARA Integration, etc...it's a bonanza....if I were going to do ONE upgrade and didn't have this... THIS WOULD BE IT. It didn't offer as much to those of us who have been using it since X1, but for anyone else... THIS IS A STEAL.... Do it...you won't regret it.... Be forewarned...it's very different from 8.5...but well worth learning... I recommend Scott Garrigus "Sonar X3 Power", which comes out soon... Also, get the SWA X3 Video Bundle from the Cake store for $19.99...that's a steal! http://www.store.cakewalk.com/b2cus/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=30-SASX3.00-30E These are by our own fellow forum member Karl Rose AKA FastBikerBoy....and will have you using up and running with all the new stuff in no time... Cheers!!! With the X3 upgrade, I will also get for free the Sonar X3 Explained video by Groove 3.....M.G., not sure if you also got this offer or not....... Either way, the complete package is worth the Producer upgrade. I'll be definitely getting this today. :)) Platinum Gaming DAW: AsRock Z77 Overclock Formula I7 3770k @ 4.5GHz : 16GB RAM G.Skill Ripjaws X 250GB OS SSD : 3TB HDD : 1TB Sample HDD Win 10 Pro x 64 : NH-D14 CPU Cooler HIS IceQ 2GB HD 7870 Focusrite Scarlett 2i4 The_Forum_Monkeys #14
cclarry Max Output Level: 0 dBFS Total Posts : 20964 Joined: 2012/02/07 09:42:07 Status: offline Re: RSO Vocal Magic? 2014/03/31 18:11:43 (permalink) Mesh cclarry M.G., The PC modules alone are worth the extra hundred...Tape Saturator, Console Emulator, and the Flyout QuadCurve EQ....just the EQ is worthy... Then you get ALL the Nomad Factor BlueTubes plugins (even though they are locked to Sonar), TH2 Producer, Breverb Sonar, Melodyne Essential, and Addictive Drums....Addictive Drums sells for $149 alone when not on sale... The BlueTubes Bundle is another couple of hundred, TH2, Breverb,..AND the Flyout QuadCurve. It's a plethora of Plugins, not to mention all the improvements to the program itself like VST 3 support, ARA Integration, etc...it's a bonanza....if I were going to do ONE upgrade and didn't have this... THIS WOULD BE IT. It didn't offer as much to those of us who have been using it since X1, but for anyone else... THIS IS A STEAL.... Do it...you won't regret it.... Be forewarned...it's very different from 8.5...but well worth learning... I recommend Scott Garrigus "Sonar X3 Power", which comes out soon... Also, get the SWA X3 Video Bundle from the Cake store for $19.99...that's a steal! http://www.store.cakewalk.com/b2cus/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=30-SASX3.00-30E These are by our own fellow forum member Karl Rose AKA FastBikerBoy....and will have you using up and running with all the new stuff in no time... Cheers!!! With the X3 upgrade, I will also get for free the Sonar X3 Explained video by Groove 3.....M.G., not sure if you also got this offer or not....... Either way, the complete package is worth the Producer upgrade. I'll be definitely getting this today. :)) Good Move Mesh!!! You'll be ECSTATIC that you did! Pure NO-BRAINER IMO... #15
M.G. Max Output Level: -89 dBFS Total Posts : 87 Joined: 2007/01/28 12:56:16 Status: offline Re: RSO Vocal Magic? 2014/04/01 11:35:09 (permalink) Thanks again for all of the advice guys! I did pull the trigger last night and ordered (downloaded) X3 Producer along with the X3 Explained by Groove video. Not bad for $149 total! I didn't get a chance to install it yet but I'm looking forward to seeing what it can do! #16
cclarry Max Output Level: 0 dBFS Total Posts : 20964 Joined: 2012/02/07 09:42:07 Status: offline Re: RSO Vocal Magic? 2014/04/01 11:40:23 (permalink) M.G. Thanks again for all of the advice guys! I did pull the trigger last night and ordered (downloaded) X3 Producer along with the X3 Explained by Groove video. Not bad for $149 total! I didn't get a chance to install it yet but I'm looking forward to seeing what it can do! AWESOME M.G.!!! Congrats...you'll find it one of the best purchases you've ever made IMO... #17
Mesh Max Output Level: 0 dBFS Total Posts : 27360 Joined: 2009/11/27 14:08:08 Location: Online right here! Status: offline Re: RSO Vocal Magic? 2014/04/01 11:42:00 (permalink) M.G. Thanks again for all of the advice guys! I did pull the trigger last night and ordered (downloaded) X3 Producer along with the X3 Explained by Groove video. Not bad for $149 total! I didn't get a chance to install it yet but I'm looking forward to seeing what it can do! You fell for peer pressure huh? LOL....I also got it downloaded last evening, but haven't installed yet. I think it's good that you got the Producer (especially coming from 8.5) as you'll have a boatload of new plugins. There might be a bit a learning curve with the X series and that video will definitely come in handy. Congrats!! Ps. Don't forget to update with X3e. post edited by Mesh - 2014/04/01 12:07:43 Platinum Gaming DAW: AsRock Z77 Overclock Formula I7 3770k @ 4.5GHz : 16GB RAM G.Skill Ripjaws X 250GB OS SSD : 3TB HDD : 1TB Sample HDD Win 10 Pro x 64 : NH-D14 CPU Cooler HIS IceQ 2GB HD 7870 Focusrite Scarlett 2i4 The_Forum_Monkeys #18
M.G. Max Output Level: -89 dBFS Total Posts : 87 Joined: 2007/01/28 12:56:16 Status: offline Re: RSO Vocal Magic? 2014/04/01 20:28:31 (permalink) Well... I installed X3 tonight. It's showing version X3a... can I upgrade straight to X3e, or do I have to ugrade to X3b first, then c, etc? Thanks! post edited by M.G. - 2014/04/01 20:32:11 #19
stevec Max Output Level: 0 dBFS Total Posts : 11546 Joined: 2003/11/04 15:05:54 Location: Parkesburg, PA Status: offline Re: RSO Vocal Magic? 2014/04/01 22:17:26 (permalink) You can go right up to X3e. Do not pass Go, do not collect $149. SteveC https://soundcloud.com/steve-cocchi http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=39163 SONAR Platinum x64, Intel Q9300 (2.5Ghz), Asus P5N-D, Win7 x64 SP1, 8GB RAM, 1TB internal + ESATA + USB Backup HDDs, ATI Radeon HD5450 1GB RAM + dual ViewSonic VA2431wm Monitors; Focusrite 18i6 (ASIO); Komplete 9, Melodyne Studio 4, Ozone 7 Advanced, Rapture Pro, GPO5, Valhalla Plate, MJUC comp, MDynamic EQ, lots of other freebie VST plugins, synths and Kontakt libraries #20
M.G. Max Output Level: -89 dBFS Total Posts : 87 Joined: 2007/01/28 12:56:16 Status: offline Re: RSO Vocal Magic? 2014/04/01 22:22:59 (permalink) Thanks Steve! Again, thanks to everyone... I've been checking it out, X3 Pro was the right choice for the price. #21
cclarry Max Output Level: 0 dBFS Total Posts : 20964 Joined: 2012/02/07 09:42:07 Status: offline Re: RSO Vocal Magic? 2014/04/01 22:23:47 (permalink) M.G. Thanks Steve! Again, thanks to everyone... I've been checking it out, X3 Pro was the right choice for the price. Glad you're enjoying it M.G....I know I do!!! #22

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