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Rain Search confusion(Original Song)
Hey guys, I’d just finish a new song, this is my sixth mix. Inputs would be greatly appreciated. This time I got a mixing headphones(HD 280 Pro), and it makes so much difference when controlling the low en compare to my multimedia speaker. I need to take frequent breaks though. https://drive.google.com/...lh6qx4May1LNGlPWVBoa00Thank you,
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Re: Rain Search confusion(Original Song)
2017/09/27 18:13:13
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I almost never make this recommendation (because most people err in the opposite direction), but this song could stand a little more master bus compression. Considering you mixed it on HD280Pro's you did a fine job with spectral balance, but I'd bring up the bottom just a little bit. Just a little.
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katsuneshinsengumi
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Re: Rain Search confusion(Original Song)
2017/09/28 01:07:00
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I almost never make this recommendation (because most people err in the opposite direction), but this song could stand a little more master bus compression. Considering you mixed it on HD280Pro's you did a fine job with spectral balance, but I'd bring up the bottom just a little bit. Just a little.
I’ve never tried masterbus compression yet and I definitely will on my next song. I want to mix with speakers but my room has no AC and has 2 windows on 2 sides both open for airflow and I can’t correctly eq with all the outside noise. And I dont want to use solo button when eqing so the best that I can do now is to use headphones and use the speaker as secondary measure(on top of referencing with other songs). Does Sonar Professional come with Master Bus Compressor or I can just use the standard compressor?
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Re: Rain Search confusion(Original Song)
2017/09/28 02:01:32
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Any compressor will do, despite what marketing literature will tell you regarding "bus" compressors. If you want to try one that's specifically designed for master bus compression, and that also happens to be FREE, then grab Kotelnikov from TDR. There's a paid version that gives you more flexibility with the sidechain filter, but it's pretty cheap IIRC. If you have Platinum, it includes an emulation of a classic bus compressor as a ProChannel module. It's pretty good.
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katsuneshinsengumi
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Re: Rain Search confusion(Original Song)
2017/09/28 02:29:52
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Alright man, thank you so much for the input, I’ll check Kotelnikov but I’ll use the stock compressor for now.
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Re: Rain Search confusion(Original Song)
2017/09/29 14:58:20
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Not enough bass for my tastes. Almost nondescript.
Vocals could use some delay, IMO.
Dave is probably right about needing more bus compression.
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Re: Rain Search confusion(Original Song)
2017/10/02 11:43:33
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Yeah a little more delay might be a good idea. Thanks man.
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Re: Rain Search confusion(Original Song)
2017/10/03 11:43:59
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Nice stereo separation. Drums are reduced to snare and cymbals and generally low in the mix. Love the the guitar sounds. I would agree with previous "bus compression" comment.
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Re: Rain Search confusion(Original Song)
2017/10/03 13:29:54
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Afrodrum
Nice stereo separation. Drums are reduced to snare and cymbals and generally low in the mix. Love the the guitar sounds. I would agree with previous "bus compression" comment.
Yeah, i should at least have the beater kick visible and have the drums overall a little louder.
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Re: Rain Search confusion(Original Song)
2017/10/03 13:29:54
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Afrodrum
Nice stereo separation. Drums are reduced to snare and cymbals and generally low in the mix. Love the the guitar sounds. I would agree with previous "bus compression" comment.
Yeah, i should at least have the beater kick visible and have the drums overall a little louder.
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Re: Rain Search confusion(Original Song)
2017/10/04 20:15:49
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Cool riffing and good sounding heavy guitars. Really missed the bass and overall bottom end of the thing, though. Your vocal style works with it, too. I'd listen to them fellas above. Will be nice to hear more from ya.
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Re: Rain Search confusion(Original Song)
2017/10/05 01:19:45
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Cool riffing and good sounding heavy guitars. Really missed the bass and overall bottom end of the thing, though. Your vocal style works with it, too. I'd listen to them fellas above. Will be nice to hear more from ya.
I’m kinda confused with the low end part because I cut the Bass guitar at 30hz and the kick at around 70hz because I want the bass guitar to stand above kick. I thought it was enough bass, can you give me some advice on how to get that low end part that you’re missing? Thanks for the input man, more songs are definitely in the lineup.
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Re: Rain Search confusion(Original Song)
2017/10/06 01:09:46
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It doesn't sound lacking in bass here. I'd just bring the bass (the instrument, not an EQ band) up by 1 or 2 dB.
Rolling off the bass at 30 Hz should not affect the overall perception of "bass" in the mix. Remember, the frequencies that make bass cut through are not the low fundamental frequencies, but rather the harmonics above 300 Hz, sometimes as high as 1 KHz.
Try turning up the bass guitar a bit first; if that doesn't do it or you find you need too much boost to make it really stand out, then try an EQ boost. See what happens if you give it 3 dB around 900-1000 Hz. If that still doesn't cut it, try adding some distortion on the bass to add more harmonics.
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Re: Rain Search confusion(Original Song)
2017/10/06 01:50:09
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It doesn't sound lacking in bass here. I'd just bring the bass (the instrument, not an EQ band) up by 1 or 2 dB.
Rolling off the bass at 30 Hz should not affect the overall perception of "bass" in the mix. Remember, the frequencies that make bass cut through are not the low fundamental frequencies, but rather the harmonics above 300 Hz, sometimes as high as 1 KHz.
Try turning up the bass guitar a bit first; if that doesn't do it or you find you need too much boost to make it really stand out, then try an EQ boost. See what happens if you give it 3 dB around 900-1000 Hz. If that still doesn't cut it, try adding some distortion on the bass to add more harmonics.
I actually cut everything above 350hz to keep the guitars clean and sepatated from the bass guitar. That might be the issue you all guys are hearing. I thought it’s a good idea that the bass guitar never passes at 350hz. Man thank you so much, I need to do some testing tomorrow with the advice you all guys gave.
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Re: Rain Search confusion(Original Song)
2017/10/06 02:56:03
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righteous, but I think it needs more cow bell and probably a 3 db bump around 22k.
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