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2013/07/27 22:47:18 (permalink)

Rain Stick

EDIT*** I just uploaded a new version.  Mostly I stood back farther from the mic and I also ran it through Ozone to try to widen the sound.  Is it any better?  
 
 
Well, I finally got around to recording my friends' rain stick.  In the interest of neighborliness, I thought I'd post it here (can't figure out exactly WHERE to post it)...in case anyone's interested in downloading it.  This is just an mp3.  I'm not real familiar with Dropbox, but I suppose that's the place to upload a .wav?  Anyway, if you care...here it is: 
 
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=789731&songID=12428489
 
And if there's a better way to record it and a different thing to DO with it, let me know.  I have no idea...just always thought it was a cool sound and I wanted to record it before they move.
 
Also, sort of unrelated...there used to be an icon for adding URL's here, which I can't find anymore.  It's probably right in front of my face, but these eyes are old and this brain is tired.  
 
 
post edited by Janet - 2013/08/04 17:06:55
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    RobertB
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    Re: Rain Stick 2013/07/28 00:16:49 (permalink)
    Yes, it is a cool sound. I had to get mine out for a sound check comparison.
    Wouldn't you know, I happen to have one.
    Try backing the mic off a bit. You have the sound, but the subtle nuances seem to be getting a little lost. There is a softness to the sound that seems to be getting overrun by the loudness/ close proximity of the mic. Also, the room seems to be somewhat live, and you are getting quite a bit of that. Something like a walk-in closet full of clothes would be good for this.
    You can split the recording into separate wav files, and trigger them with various samplers you have.

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    Re: Rain Stick 2013/07/28 00:28:06 (permalink)
    Rain sticks are cool.

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    Re: Rain Stick 2013/07/28 09:00:56 (permalink)
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    Yes, it is a cool sound. I had to get mine out for a sound check comparison.
    Wouldn't you know, I happen to have one.
    Try backing the mic off a bit. You have the sound, but the subtle nuances seem to be getting a little lost. There is a softness to the sound that seems to be getting overrun by the loudness/ close proximity of the mic. Also, the room seems to be somewhat live, and you are getting quite a bit of that. Something like a walk-in closet full of clothes would be good for this.
    You can split the recording into separate wav files, and trigger them with various samplers you have.




    +1 to the above. I'd also add....using two or more mic's so you'd have this sound in stereo while in the closet. Then, maybe open the door and have mic's in the room to pick up some ambience just "to have". Good job on the recording though Janet...it sounds like a good capture, but like Robert mentioned, it's a bit loud due to being close mic'd. This is good though, but 2 more mics along with it not so close up would have been nice...then you mix them all and it comes to life.
     
    The softness Robert mentions is important for this for sure.....yours sounds a bit like "Torrential Stick" though....hahaha...which is cool because, well, that doesn't really exist so we can call this one "The Janet T Stick". :) Honest though...all laughing and joking aside, I do like the quality of the print here as far as eq and capturing the actual sound. I'd listen to what Robert has offered as well as maybe adding a few mic's on each side (like having two ears which you'd pan) so that the sound would be less mono and would allow for some room to come into play. Nice job Janet....hope all is well, haven't talked to you in a long time. :)
     
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    Re: Rain Stick 2013/07/28 10:55:46 (permalink)
    stereo maybe? 
     
    two mics... one near the top, one further down near the bottom....
     


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    Re: Rain Stick 2013/07/28 12:31:44 (permalink)
    To answer the other question about URLs. If you highlight some text, two greyed out icons on the right-hand side of the 2nd toolbar become active, they are link and unlink. Click on link and a URL dialog will popup. Add the URL and the highlighted text will have the link added to it.
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    Re: Rain Stick 2013/07/28 15:55:40 (permalink)
    Thanks everyone!  It's good to hear from you especially, Bob - long time no see!  And Danny...yes, it has been a long time!  Herb, see below...And Robby...yeah, I think so too!  Scook...thanks!
     
    So, more than one mic, huh?  Well, that might be a little much for this equipment- and know-how-challenged recording star, but we'll see.  Recording in stereo I can handle though.  Not sure why I put it on mono.  A closet full of clothes might be tough, though, since there wouldn't be room for the rain stick and the mic then. :)  So, we'll see.  I'll at least try it farther back.  
     
    Thanks a bunch and hopefully I'll get back at it before my friends leave! :) 
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    Re: Rain Stick 2013/07/28 15:57:19 (permalink)
    Scook...OK, I've highlighted a URL on a website, but those two icons still don't become active.  What am I missing? 
     
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    Re: Rain Stick 2013/07/28 16:06:12 (permalink)
    If you just want to add a URL to your post, you can copy and paste it directly into the post. Otherwise, after highlighting and copying the URL, then highlight some text in your post. That will cause the link/unlink icons to become active. Click the link icon and paste the URL into the popup dialog created by the clicking the link icon.
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    Re: Rain Stick 2013/07/28 16:24:32 (permalink)
    Sweet sound! Thanks for sharing!

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    Re: Rain Stick 2013/07/28 16:44:42 (permalink)
    You're welcome, IK!
     
    Oh, I see what you mean, Scook...I hadn't highlighted text in my post.  OK, that's an odd work-around (to me anyway), but hopefully I'll be able to remember it.  :)  Thanks! 
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    Re: Rain Stick 2013/07/28 19:13:55 (permalink)
    Janet
    So, more than one mic, huh?  Well, that might be a little much for this equipment- and know-how-challenged recording star, but we'll see.  Recording in stereo I can handle though.  Not sure why I put it on mono.  


    Janet, I think you may be confused. Unless you are using a stereo mic, stereo=2 mics. Mono that you are referring to is Sonar's "mono interleave". That is not the same thing as what we are talking about here. You cannot record using one mic and make it stereo. Even if you recorded to where you saw two wave forms on one track, that is not stereo unless there are 2 independent sound sources....in your case, it would be 2 mics. Just wanted to give you a heads up on that. :)
     
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    Re: Rain Stick 2013/07/28 19:31:24 (permalink)
    Me??!! Confused??!!  Well, you know THAT'S never happened before!    
     
    Actually, as I was typing that, I wondered if that was right...but hey, you never know.  And if fact, that's me...I never know what I'm doing.  :)  
     
    Thanks!  
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    Re: Rain Stick 2013/07/28 22:23:16 (permalink)
    i used a single large condenser microphone to capture a rainstick for a song i produced for a band called "Kettlefish"..
    i posted lengthy reports and posts here..
     
    anyway, i blended the sound of the rainstick, with actual rain samples..
     
    worked great.
     
    the rain is, of course, very organic, and the rainstick is very, well, in your face....
     
    distance from the mic helps, with a rainstick, unless you are going to do what i did, use 'elements' of it in a mix, rather than feature it in the mix...
     
    the choice of mic is key, otherwise you could end up with a sibelent mess when mixing.....
     
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    Re: Rain Stick 2013/07/28 22:32:54 (permalink)
    Thanks for that!  I'll definitely try it again.  It would help if I had a song in mind, but I don't right now.  Just want to capture this thing before it's gone.  
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    Re: Rain Stick 2013/07/29 09:52:13 (permalink)
    exactly.... two mics and two inputs to two tracks both of which are mono..... but the result is stereo.
     
    I was kinda kidding about the whole "record it in stereo" thing..... but it would be interesting..... like some of the old Beatles/Pink Floyd stuff... hear the rain start on one side and slide across the sound stage to the other...
     
    Or better yet.... QUAD!!!!

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    Re: Rain Stick 2013/07/31 14:53:27 (permalink)
    Ah, ya. I have rain on my synth, but the rain stick sounds neat. Well, "Riders on the Storm" is a song, but then my rain is subdued in the song and you have to listen to where it is at near the frequency of the cymbals of the synth.
    Could of made it a little better, but then I am older and still fail and try not to become a grump for the most part.
    Ah, what was being talked about - who knows??
    Well, stick rain in a song with the rain stick!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9ZdZU5us4A
     
    or you can listen to the real version by the Doors, better also.
     

     
     
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    Re: Rain Stick 2013/07/31 21:50:02 (permalink)
    Well, I think I heard it in there.  Sounds cool! Thanks!  
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    Re: Rain Stick 2013/07/31 23:06:16 (permalink)
    The rain stick had torrents rain though, something different.

    Nice gentle rain though, well whatever.
     

     
     
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    Re: Rain Stick 2013/08/04 17:07:21 (permalink)
    I just uploaded a new version.  Mostly I stood back farther from the mic and I also ran it through Ozone to try to widen the sound.  Is it any better?  
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    Re: Rain Stick 2013/08/04 20:47:48 (permalink)
    Much! Now, that sounds like a rain stick.
    You captured some really nice samples on this round.
     
    After you posted the original, I realized that my rain stick needed a little maintenance.
    It's almost twenty years old, and the tiny wires were slowly creeping out of the holes in the cactus. I drove them all back in, and set them with a drop of superglue.
    post edited by RobertB - 2013/08/04 21:03:46

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    Re: Rain Stick 2013/08/04 22:10:10 (permalink)
    It's better?  Well, thank you for listening, Bob!  I'm glad it's better.  (and glad I finally did this before I have to give the rain stick up!)  :)  Now to see if some inspiration will come along with it.  :)
     
    Glad you got yours all fixed up too. 
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    Re: Rain Stick 2013/08/04 22:36:05 (permalink)
    I suppose you could EQ a bit if you wanted to also.
     
    Now, all you have to do is apply to the song "Singin' in the Rain"!
     

     
     
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    Re: Rain Stick 2013/08/05 16:59:11 (permalink)
    Thanks.  Maybe I'll try that too.  
     
    Just got a cough and sore throat, so it would be croaking in the rain right now. :)
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    Re: Rain Stick 2013/08/13 15:31:35 (permalink)
    Janet
    If it were me...........
    I would just sample the Door's "Rider in the Storm" and be done with it.....
     

     
     
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    Re: Rain Stick 2013/08/14 22:04:30 (permalink)
    Well, you know me, Cliff.  I wouldn't even know how to do that!  lol
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    Re: Rain Stick 2013/08/14 22:23:05 (permalink)
    Well I've learned something here. I'd never heard of a rain stick before. Quite a few neat ones for sale on the various usual sites. Interesting.

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    Re: Rain Stick 2013/08/20 17:31:24 (permalink)
    I'm not at home right now but I'm pretty sure there is a Rain Stick sample library out there that I got for free.
     
    I know that's not what you wanted Janet but this thread just reminded me of that and I may need to just use it soon. 
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    Re: Rain Stick 2013/08/22 16:09:57 (permalink)
    Sounds like a good idea!  :)
     
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