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Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens....
Night off relaxing in the "man cave/home studio"... Bought the remaster of Pink Floyd's Animals earlier this afternoon and I'm about to enjoy this awesome record I hadn't listened to in ages drinking one of these (and probably the rest of her family). So here's up to you, pals. :) 
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Re: Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens....
2014/03/20 02:01:43
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Are those a few of your favorite things?  Oh, and HERE is another nice Gothic rock band for you to check out if you haven't heard of them already. 
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Re: Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens....
2014/03/20 02:02:45
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BTW - Animals is one of my favorite PF albums, and I've got 'em all!
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2014/03/20 02:05:13
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You did it, you actually found a Goth band I didn't know! :P I'm checking them out.
Buy yourself a beer on my behalf! :P
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2014/03/20 02:06:45
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WAIT! I screwed up the link... That's a very nice newer prog band.
I just realized that the goth band I was listening to you probably already know: Faith and the Muse.
Sorry...
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Re: Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens....
2014/03/20 02:10:41
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I just sent both links to someone else then got them confused... Oh well. Ok, how about some Goth from Hawaii to make up for it? Here's a few samples of Razed in Black. Razed in Black playlist
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Re: Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens....
2014/03/20 02:11:26
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BTW - Animals is one of my favorite PF albums, and I've got 'em all!
I had them all too back then, including some darn obscure bootlegs. All except The Final Cut - I never even listened to that one. For a few years, I listened to nothing but Pink Floyd and the Beatles. It's nice to not only rebuild my collection but to get the remasters. Likewise, I'm glad I've waited to buy the Zeppelin catalogue again too, in view of the recently announced new releases - might as well get the most recent version (as long as it sounds as good as the previous remasters).
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2014/03/20 02:14:49
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For something a little mellower, try some really nice guitar by Rick Miller: Angel of My Soul (title song of the album) There's VERY little on YouBoob from this excellent Canadian musician. More can be found on one of his websites HERE. His main influences were the Moody Blues and Pink Floyd.
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WAIT! I screwed up the link... That's a very nice newer prog band.
I just realized that the goth band I was listening to you probably already know: Faith and the Muse.
Sorry...
No worries - I had it on pause, waiting; no damage done. ;) Faith and the Muse - yep. :)
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For something a little mellower, try some really nice guitar by Rick Miller: Angel of My Soul (title song of the album) There's VERY little on YouBoob from this excellent Canadian musician. More can be found on one of his websites HERE. His main influences were the Moody Blues and Pink Floyd.
Sounds interesting. Thanks for that one! Speaking of Canadian musician, Serge Fiori, the man behind Harmonium launched his first album in almost 30 years a few weeks ago, after years in reclusion, struggling with mental issues. The thing went gold in 2 weeks - which is no small feat considering how the industry is doing back home and how far from your average pop record the album is. Unfortunately, since the album is in french, a lot of it is lost in translation... Some of it is pretty poignant. But I think a lot gets through no matter what language one speaks. https://itunes.apple.com/ca/album/serge-fiori/id791205769 I am not sure I'll forgive them for using Autotune though... And the artwork is atrocious.
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Re: Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens....
2014/03/20 02:35:41
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Yeah, even Razed in Black only has some Goth rock songs. I'm listening to one right now that sounds closer to the Pet Shop Boys - lol. Oh well, it's not bad at all - just not what I think of as Goth rock at all!
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2014/03/20 11:34:31
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Re: Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens....
2014/03/20 11:58:05
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I think Animals was one of the first CD's I bought - I initially had the cassette tape version and it actually faded out in the middle of Pigs (Three Different Ones) at the end of side one and faded back in on side two! RainLikewise, I'm glad I've waited to buy the Zeppelin catalogue again too, in view of the recently announced new releases - might as well get the most recent version (as long as it sounds as good as the previous remasters).
Unfortunately in many cases for many bands "most recent version" = "most compressed". 
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Re: Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens....
2014/03/20 12:53:45
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Can any Juan join this fred or is it a closed party?
Like YOU need an invitation? 
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Re: Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens....
2014/03/20 14:37:33
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I think Animals was one of the first CD's I bought - I initially had the cassette tape version and it actually faded out in the middle of Pigs (Three Different Ones) at the end of side one and faded back in on side two!
RainLikewise, I'm glad I've waited to buy the Zeppelin catalogue again too, in view of the recently announced new releases - might as well get the most recent version (as long as it sounds as good as the previous remasters).
Unfortunately in many cases for many bands "most recent version" = "most compressed".
I'm hoping that this won't be the case. Jimmy Page always seemed to be very protective of his band's legacy, so I think there's hope. But yeah, in many cases, it's tragic - Deep Purple comes to mind.
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2014/03/20 15:21:30
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My recollection was that the (heretofore most recent?) Mothership collection was considerably louder than previous versions...
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2014/03/20 15:43:30
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Quite possible - I haven't listened to that one. If so, indeed, it doesn't look good.
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2014/03/20 16:26:58
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You got me curious, so I decided to take a look. 3 versions of Stairway (what I call Stairway to Loudness ):  Box Set (1990): Left Channel Right Channel RMS level (dB) -19.733 -19.430 Early Days (1999): Left Channel Right Channel RMS level (dB) -18.586 -18.283 Mothership (2007): Left Channel Right Channel RMS level (dB) -15.153 -14.854
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2014/03/20 17:21:13
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Another example: 
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2014/03/20 19:48:21
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I guess I'll try to find the box set versions again.
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Re: Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens....
2014/03/20 21:13:55
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I really like the latest Floyd re-prints. I have the Animals album and experience editions of DSOTHM and WYWH. I enjoy the deep cuts they include and the different unreleased mixes. Is it more compressed? I don't know, and if you listen to an ipod what's the difference. BEST sound ever comes from my tape machine into the 1959 Harmon Kardon tube amp. I was happy in the 70's.
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Re: Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens....
2014/03/20 23:26:12
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I really like the latest Floyd re-prints. I have the Animals album and experience editions of DSOTHM and WYWH. I enjoy the deep cuts they include and the different unreleased mixes. Is it more compressed? I don't know, and if you listen to an ipod what's the difference. BEST sound ever comes from my tape machine into the 1959 Harmon Kardon tube amp. I was happy in the 70's.
I've also bought DSOTM a few weeks ago, the one with the live cd - and that live recording demonstrates just how much we've actually lost as technology got better, imho. It's so organic and vibrant. On a side note, I've noticed that older albums which weren't so badly compressed don't seem to suffer the conversion to MP3 half as much. Frequency content obviously comes into play as well, I guess. As I replace iTunes versions of records with CD, I sometimes do a quick comparison. With music from the 70s and 80s, the main difference often seems to be that the CD sounds a bit more 3D, with better stereo image. A bit more depth. With albums released in the last 10-15 years the difference is far more obvious. In those case it's not a matter of the MP3 version not sounding quite as good as the CD - the iTunes version sounds bad altogether, with very obvious artifact - distorted guitars almost always sound as if they were running though a chorus or something.
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