Michael8it
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Random Pops and Clicks
I am using Sonar 8.5 on W7x64 system through a M-Audio Delta 66 card, recording one channel at a time. I started getting random pops and clicks, and I cant seem to get rid of it. I have tried changing bit depth and sampling rate to no avail. I am currently running ASIO drivers because the WDM drivers seemed to give me playback issues.
We recorded one song with no problems, recording 5 separate vocal tracks without a hitch. Started another song and began getting these pops and clicks.
Any suggestions ??
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Kalle Rantaaho
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Re:Random Pops and Clicks
2011/01/31 04:37:16
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Did you try raising the latency (if there's "room" for it)?
You do have the latest W7 compatible 64 bit ASIO drivers for the Delta, don't you?
One thing I sometimes wonder: Is it possible that the Undo-buffer has some kind of an affect on the performance. You hear so often that people start getting disturbance in the audio after working for some time. As if something got piled up somewhere..
Does re-launching SONAR help? That would empty the Undo-buffer, but OTH, so should a simple save do (??).
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Michael8it
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Re:Random Pops and Clicks
2011/01/31 07:57:03
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I have experienced some of the disturbances you are talking about after working with audio for a while. These are fresh tracks in a new template.
I did go to M-Audio and get the latest drivers. But, I cannot get the control panel to launch. It will show up in the tray in Windows but it will not launch. I also uninstalled and reinstalled the Delta 66 to no avail.
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chuckebaby
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Re:Random Pops and Clicks
2011/01/31 08:00:24
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did you down load an asio driver from asio4free or is it a true asio driver?..i downloaded one..worked fine for about 2 weeks then the crashing and snap,crackle pop.
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Kalle Rantaaho
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Re:Random Pops and Clicks
2011/01/31 08:14:38
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Did you try raising latency? I'd say that's the first thing to try if he drivers are up to date.
In most cases, and certainly with vocals, you can work if the latency is below 12 ms.
A 2-3 ms difference can be crucial to soundcard performance.
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Michael8it
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Re:Random Pops and Clicks
2011/01/31 09:36:29
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Chuck, I only have the ASIO drivers that came with Sonar and M-Audio. I did not know you could download other drivers.
Kalle, I cant open the ASIO panel to change anything. Don't know why. At this point I am thinking of just doing a clean install of Sonar and M-Audio Delta and see what happens from there.
Is there really any advantage of running W7 in 64 bit versus 32 bit? Could this impact performance? I have another rig set up in 32 bit with Presonus Studio Live and we have no issues at all with it.
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Kalle Rantaaho
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Re:Random Pops and Clicks
2011/01/31 13:29:05
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The only advantage of 64 bits that I know of is ability to use more than about 3,3 gigas of memory.
What control panel are you not able to launch? The M-Audios or Windows? Either or there's something odd going on.
ASIO-related things seem to be jammed (?). Are you sure you have ASIO drivers, and only ASIO drivers selected in Options>Audio?
It's really weird that you can not launch the ASIO-panel and adjust latency. How is it not available? Greyed out?
I've sometimes experienced ASIO-panel opening behind the active windows and being only approachable through minimizing all windows.
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chuckebaby
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Re:Random Pops and Clicks
2011/01/31 17:05:04
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you cant open the asio panel cause you aint got one bro...mine says asio too...but i dont have one..its a preference menu?..download it..
go to asio4free down load your driver..then you can select it from the menu.once you do that.your going to need to open the asio panel and change your settings a wee bit..not much though..just need to switch from the dreaded ms wave synth to the asio..then on the master and tracks set it too asio..get back here once you get that far..keep me posted
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chuckebaby
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Re:Random Pops and Clicks
2011/01/31 18:05:41
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big advantage to using 64 it,,thats not your prob..like kalle said try moving your buffer..if it dont work get the asio driver.
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johnnyV
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Re:Random Pops and Clicks
2011/01/31 20:27:20
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DO not use asio 4all ( free?) it is a wrapper for none ASIO drivers and it only advantage I've heard mention is it allows for more than one interface at a time.
It is best to use the real drivers supplied by the manufactures.
Do a little digging around on the net to make sure there are no problem with those drivers as the transition to W7 64 bit does have issues with some drivers.
Your control panel should be there unless you have de selected ASIO in Sonar.
Make sure Sonar is set for ASIO in the audio options menu.
I don't thing a OS fix is required . But it might not hurt to re do the M audio drivers. Make sure you delete all traces of them, go into the program folder after you un install and delete the folder there too.
I sure you are aware of setting up things for proper DAW, like turning off internet etc.
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Re:Random Pops and Clicks
2011/01/31 22:56:23
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you can listen to johny if you want..maybe hes got one and knows better..but if you find yourself doing what i did..try asio4free. johny he said he downloaded the drivers if he cant open the asio panel its a good chance he doesnt have one..my settings say my menu says asio to..does it mean i can selest it?..no i cant, the panel wont open. i dont have one..i did...but what im doing now i dont need it..before i tried asio4free it should up as asio in the preference menu as well. now i know your telling him to select asio in sonar..but if you read his post..it says he cant open the asio panel..and as far as using asio just to use more than one interface at a time..?..you serious..most people are using them for two different reasons..latency..or crackling and poping play back. i been wrong before..
post edited by chuckebaby - 2011/01/31 23:04:32
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JonD
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Re:Random Pops and Clicks
2011/02/01 02:42:34
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If you haven't done any optimizing "tweaks" to your system for recording audio, I would start there. Here's one of the many online articles that'll help you do this: http://support.presonus.c...indows-vista-windows-7 Take your time, and, of course, post back if you have questions. Let us know how it goes.
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Re:Random Pops and Clicks
2011/02/01 12:17:10
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I cannot get the control panel to launch. It will show up in the tray in Windows but it will not launch. You probably won't be able to open the ASIO control panel while SONAR is control of the ASIO driver. Two solutions: close SONAR and open the ASIO control panel, or open the ASIO panel via the "ASIO Panel" button on SONAR's Options -> Audio dialog. In the latter case, SONAR releases its connection so you can open the ASIO control panel.
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