Rapture is crashing my system

Just to add, freezing Rapture cures the problem, though this is far from ideal.

AFAIK, an expansion pack could only consist of wavetables, samples, sfz files and element setups..  with the obvious preset .prog's built from that content...
So my question is, "why would an expansion pack cause Rapture to crash, any more than just loading a "factory sound," or using the factory wavetables to design a sound?

I think the answer is: Rapture has some very mission critical, and noticeable bugs.  Regardless of .prog loaded, expansion packs bought, user designed sounds from factory or after market wavetables, sfz files, or other type of content that can be loaded into a Rapture Element.

Bristol_Jonesey


Just to add, freezing Rapture cures the problem, though this is far from ideal. 

I have noticed this too.  I believe that is because the synth is, "put to sleep," when frozen.  ( For lack of a better phrase. )

Bristol_Jonesey


This is the full version of Rapture, and I've also downloaded & installed the Digital Sound Factory Filmscore expansion.

Any project with this in is cashing - but only in 64 bit Sonar, 32 bit seems fine.

The project will play up to a point, then it will stop and I get a nasty, fairly low pitched grinding noise from the monitors. At this point, Sonar is totally unresponsive and the only way to kill it is through Task Manager.

I have uninstalled Rapture & reinstalled it a couple of times, but it doesn't make any difference.


Any clues about this one anyone?

I see..  Have you owned Rapture for a while, or did you recently upgrade?  Are you 100% sure you are running 1.2.2?  This can be verified by right clicking on a Rapture .dll --- > properties ---> details



IMHO..  This is worth verifying.  Even if you think you have 1.2.2 installed..  I had a lot of trouble getting that installation proper.  For many months I thought I had 1.2.2 and it was really 1.2.1 and I thought it was 64, but it was really 32.

I had lot of trouble with 1.2.1..  I had a ton of trouble with 1.2.0.  I am doing OK with the 1.2.2 64 bit.  Things are not perfect..  ANd I am not using Rapture in Sonar per se..   I am using Rapture loaded in my Rewire Slave.  I know that does not help..  but..  I imagine that the 64 bit 1.2.2 is ok in Sonar.  Are you 100% sure, what you've got there is 1.2.2?

There are instructions on this page..  to install the 1.2.2  ---------  I READ THESE WORD FOR WORD DURING MY LATEST INSTALL OF RAPTURE PROCESS.  WORD FOR WORD....  http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/kb/reader.aspx/2007013167

When you verify the .dll, if it is anything less than 1.2.2 file version 1.2.2.7..  than i highly suggest a complete uninstall.  including registry folder delete.

Than..  1.1.0, 1.2.0 ( I skipped 1.2.1 with no problem. ) 1.2.2  ( read the 1.2.2 install instructions. )

I also suggest..  Only installing the 32 bit on 1.1.0..   the 1.2 + installers give you a choice for 32 or 64..  I only installed 64.


So..  I've finally got Rapture 1.2.2, file v1.2.2.7 64bit running on my system.  It still has a problem, specific to my Renoise ( rewire/slave) that has to do with popup boxes..  ( This for me, is not a mission critical bug. )

I have not had a crash with Rapture 1.2.2 yet.  Knock on wood!

So, I can definitely confirm that 1.2.2 is running solid.

I had such a mess with 1.2.1 and 1.2.0 that I even tried 1.1.0 for a week, till I finally gave up, and said, "damn, I need to get the 1.2.2 installed proper."  To do that..  I had to read the directions, and follow them to a T.


I sure hope that helps,

Cheers

Well I've downloaded & installed version 1.2.2 but still get the same problem, so I'm wondering what to do next.

The only solution is like I said before, to freeze Rapture before playing the project, but this isn't exactly conducive to a creative workflow.

Also, opening the same project in 32 bit Sonar results in an instant BSOD.


Less than happy with Rapture.

Back to Dim Pro for now.

Thanks, Kenneth, but there's not a lot relating to my particular problem.

Thanks Lynn.

I think for now I'll stick with it and see what X2 brings to the table.

I have been using Rapture in my Rewire Slave..  Both Rapture and my Slave are confirmed, "very latest, and properly installed version."

I do have stability with Rapture, but!  A few issues:  The first issue.  In an image below, A is Rapture as a Microhost, B is Rapture in my Rewire Slave.  As you can see...  64 bit, 1.2.2 Rapture will not show pop up boxes, detailing certain information, in Renoise 2.8.1

Ok.. But I have stability, and I have an inkling as to why that may be..  Renoise allows for several options on, "how to run your vst plugins."  There are specifically two separate windows on this regard where you can tweak settings.  Window 1.. Gives the option to, "run all plugins in Sandboxes, ( separate processes. )  This is great!  I get a lot more stability from all my plugins with this option chosen.  However, I give up a major feature!  When this option is chosen, I can not cut and past between things like Rapture Instance 1 and Rapture Instance 2...  Ok..  No matter though, cause I like the stability!

I have looked in Sonar X1 to find this, "run all plugins in sandboxes," option.  I can not find it..  If it exists, I suggest, "we try this."  If you find this option, can you please post a screen shot in this thread!  

Another Plugin Options Window Renoise has, is very much like, "the Cakewalk Plugin Manager."  In this window Renoise gives several options..  I am also putting an image below...

With all that said..  I tested Rapture in Sonar X1..  I tested four instances, and got a crash when I turned on an Arpegiator...   I am sure there are other crashes....

Rapture needs to be fixed!   It is very important that it is fixed!  It is also, "my biggest complaint."

I too am upgrading to Sonar X2...   But I really, really, really want Rapture working!  Its got some bugs, they can be confirmed...   Please Cakewalk, work on this synth!

Cheers

I think the answer is: Rapture has some very mission critical, and noticeable bugs.  Regardless of .prog loaded, expansion packs bought, user designed sounds from factory or after market wavetables, sfz files, or other type of content that can be loaded into a Rapture Element.  Have you owned Rapture for a while, or did you recently upgrade?  Are you 100% sure you are running 1.2.2?  This can be verified by right clicking on a Rapture .dll --- > properties ---> details

I have Rapture 1.2.2 and have had issues since I bought it several months ago on the $20 deals. 
I also bought the filmscore patch and couldn't get it to run for more than a few minutes without crashing X1.
I wound up uninstalling both and only installed Rapture 1.2.2...now I just get a grey screen in the Rapture UI...got tired of dicking around with it and found stuff in Z3ta 2 that sufficed.
I should also confess I haven't even contacted support so I can't complain... but I guess I've been hoping more threads like this would come up so that maybe CW will take notice.

Interesting bit of text in the Readme:




"When installing Rapture VST on 64-bit Windows systems, only the 64-bit or 32-bit VST can be installed at one time.  If multiple installations occur, only the more recently installed VST will appear in your host."

That would be helpful Cliff - thanks!

Yeah it's definitely 1.2.2

I renamed the old one and added .old to the fiename, so it wouldn't pick it up.

Wouldn't have the time for any Beta testing mate - I can barely get quality studio time as it is

Cliff ,thanks so much for taking the time to post all of that.

It's certainly given me some very useful pointers and if/when I find anything, I'll let you know.

Thanks!

Cliff, thanks for the info, will have a scout about and looksee. 8-)