Thedoccal
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Re: Really?..Sad?..Where's the outrage folks!?!? edited
2017/11/21 20:51:16
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Be careful what you wish for in regards to Microsoft buying Cakewalk.
If that happens, their goal will be to create a Windows app to compete with Garage Band.
It would still be better than no more SONAR, ever 
Not a 1st choice, but there might not be that many interested parties.
I think their goal will be to stick it to Apple and Logic and perhaps destroy ProTools as an afterthought.
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2017/11/21 21:38:38
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I think their goal will be to stick it to Apple and Logic and perhaps destroy ProTools as an afterthought.
I'm cool with that.
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☄ Helpfulby user4325874 2017/11/21 21:49:03
I am actually pretty distraught over this. I really feel that SONAR is the best DAW, certainly for me. There are so many little things that I can't even get into that connect me and my whole audio business with SONAR. The sum of these little parts are huge. I was so looking forward to further development. I am absolutely speechless right now. This simply cannot be...
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☄ Helpfulby fresh101 2017/11/21 22:34:50
This is a great post. After reading about what Gibson is doing to Cakewalk today, Cakewalk should be saying #MeToo
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This is a great post. After reading about what Gibson is doing to Cakewalk today, Cakewalk should be saying #MeToo
This made me chuckle a bit...Thank you!
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☄ Helpfulby fresh101 2017/11/21 22:42:48
I wonder if there's a way to get Izotope into the idea of buying and continuing development of Cakewalk. I believe they're located in the same city, and doesn't Dan Gonzalez (who used to work for Cakewalk) now work for Izotope? They just came out with the Spire recording system; maybe they'd be interested in getting into the desktop DAW market? I wouldn't have a clue about who to contact over there, but I'll do some searching.
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I wonder if there's a way to get Izotope into the idea of buying and continuing development of Cakewalk...
Isn't kind of late for that now. Aren't the software development engineers out of there as of last Friday? As others have pointed out if Cakewalk was a great profit center, wouldn't Gibson try to sell it? Some people like myself have already jumped the sinking ship and I've decided to go with Studio One 3 Professional. I have one album that I'm finishing and when the mix is down, I'll close down Sonar and Master in S1. Walt
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I pulled the trigger on Studio One Pro too. The Sweetwater sale was too good to pass up.
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Microsoft would butcher it. Theit best multimedia product ever was paintbrush
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Jim Roseberry
Be careful what you wish for in regards to Microsoft buying Cakewalk.
If that happens, their goal will be to create a Windows app to compete with Garage Band.
My concern as well. - would be good if there was a possibility they would morph Home Studio into a GarageBand wanna-be and still keep a suite of professional tools? I think Sonar is amazingly matured. I hope there's a path to upgrade to Platinum from Pro for me. I'll use it till my DAW dies.
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fresh101
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2017/11/22 03:08:47
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#savecakewalk is trying to pick up steam. Go vent or make suggestions or woo a company to acquire it on twitter. Share, like & retweet. Let's at least get it trending.
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2017/11/22 03:55:30
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What good is outrage gonna do?
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2017/11/22 04:12:33
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bitman
What good is outrage gonna do?
Have you not been paying attention for the last 10 yrs or more. Social media anyone?
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I think Gibson recently shut down their Memphis facility that does hollowbody stuff. Dire times...
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But I think they were moving it to a smaller, newer location I believe
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Hit social media up guys! Just talking about it here in this limited forum isn't going to get enough eyes on the problem!
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I've got some rage going, but I'm controlling it.
I'm pissed off because I've spent the last 14 years learning and working with Cakewalk/Sonar. And I've gotten good at it. The learning curve to move to another DAW will be terribly problematic - the main benefit of being familiar with the DAW is that you know what you NEED to do to create the art that's currently in your grasp. If you have to fiddle, fail, and find, by the time you get set up the muse may have left!
I can't imagine the professional ramifications if I was a studio that ran Sonar, loyally flying the flag instead of PT!
Phillips/Gibson owes us nothing (except for those still paying for monthly upgrades). They don't owe me an apology or a refund. I bought a great product. They made a business decision to stop supporting it. They are taking their focus from musicians, and putting it towards the commercial entertainment products.
They have devalued my custom, which they have every right to do. And in return, I have devalued THEM and will boycott Phillips, Gibson, and their subsidiaries.
I really hope somebody buys Cakewalk, but if it's gotten to this point I doubt anything will come of it.
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2017/11/22 18:26:35
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Slugbaby
I've got some rage going, but I'm controlling it.
They have devalued my custom, which they have every right to do. And in return, I have devalued THEM and will boycott Phillips, Gibson, and their subsidiaries.
I really hope somebody buys Cakewalk, but if it's gotten to this point I doubt anything will come of it.
I'm with you. All I'm saying is focus that rage. Be vocal about your boycott and tell people why. There is a possible solution out there. Maybe by drawing some eyes to the issue a solution might present it's self. Gibson my have given up on us that doesn't mean we have to. #savecakewalk
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☄ Helpfulby fresh101 2017/11/22 18:54:59
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I'm with you. All I'm saying is focus that rage. Be vocal about your boycott and tell people why. There is a possible solution out there. Maybe by drawing some eyes to the issue a solution might present it's self. Gibson my have given up on us that doesn't mean we have to. #savecakewalk
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Re: Really?..Sad?..Where's the outrage folks?!? #savecakewalk
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If someone had a reason to be upset, I think I'd qualify highly! Ha! I literally upgraded to the yearly subscription less than a month ago! I spent $299! My version of SPLAT from October, 2016 was working flawlessly! Since I upgraded, I'm having a few issues! AND, I've been a licensed user as a professional since version 7! I have a HUGE amount of work for ALL my clients and ALL in Cakewalk format!
But as I see it, life goes on. I'm looking to the future in a sense that all of my (now legacy) projects will have to be maintained- somehow. I'll HAVE to keep a PC with at minimum Windows 10 from now until I'm done! So, I'm actively looking at other DAW's so that I DON'T continue to record projects in software that will no longer be maintained! That's the brutal reality.
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2017/11/23 23:14:55
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mrpippy2
I wonder if there's a way to get Izotope into the idea of buying and continuing development of Cakewalk. I believe they're located in the same city, and doesn't Dan Gonzalez (who used to work for Cakewalk) now work for Izotope? They just came out with the Spire recording system; maybe they'd be interested in getting into the desktop DAW market? I wouldn't have a clue about who to contact over there, but I'll do some searching.
IIRC Alex Westner Cakewalk’s VP Product Strategy & Innovation (!) Only quite recently jumped from the good ship Izotope and back aboard the good ship Cakewalk having previously jumped from the good ship Cakewalk onto the good ship Izotope and probably the less said about that now, the better. Hey, mebbe he was still really working for Izotope all along.......watch this space!!
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fresh101
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2017/11/25 20:58:32
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Zargg
Jim Roseberry
Be careful what you wish for in regards to Microsoft buying Cakewalk.
If that happens, their goal will be to create a Windows app to compete with Garage Band.
It would still be better than no more SONAR, ever
Not a 1st choice, but there might not be that many interested parties.
That's a bad thought. Eventually PC users had to part with Logic. Their alternative was to buy a Mac and then Apple thought they could charge of $900 for a license. They eventually dropped the price. So far I have not bought Sony products now developed by Magix. MS is also bad a copying Apple's ideas.
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fresh101
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2017/11/28 16:16:36
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Someone else had suggested Magix but the already own Samplitude and Music Maker.
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Re: Really?..Sad?..Where's the outrage folks?!? #savecakewalk
2017/11/28 23:57:26
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(Edited for content, hopefully it won't get deleted this time) Excuse my bluntness and I say this out of love but....Seriously!?! This is the same group who losses it if an update doesn't contain their particular fix. The same group who lost it when the secret announcement teased a few years back wasn't what they had dreamed up in their own heads. The same group of people who whine that one group of users get a discount or free plugin they've had for over a year. Now Gibson is ready to flush Cakewalk down the toilet and all I'm hearing is... SAD?!?... Really?!?... Sad!?!...Forget sad!
Some of us have been loyal costumers since before computer music was a real thing and hardware was still king. Trying to convince our friends that this was the future.
Some of you are probably thinking ..."but Fresh, what can we do about it?" ...My answer is... something, anything but say "aw sad" and walking away! This is the modern day of the internet and social media. Get enough voices behind a movement and things can happen. Movies have been funded, TV shows have been brought back from the dead. Presidential campaigns have been won and lost...etc.
And to this statement "your software will continue to work normally"...I love you guys but let's be real, nobody wants a software product without development or support. There are a ton of great products out there that technically still work but no one will touch with a 10ft pole and a hazmat suit on. Project5, Kinetic, Shortcircuit sampler, Alchemy for win, etc. One bad windows update and you're dead in the water.
Some of us have based our livelihood on Cakewalk products and have been loyal to a fault for decades just get a " Oh well, it's been fun guys" for our troubles and tons of cash spent on upgrades and add on products.
I don't know exactly what we can do to save Cakewalk but we've got to do something people. Forget sad..get mad...get motivated...get organized. Let's make something happen. Who's with me. #savecakewalk
I'm with you all the way! It's certainly worse for us blind users who only use Windows. I mean, I've already tried a Mac, but it conflicts with JAWS.
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2017/12/01 19:43:01
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Microsoft think of all the Sonar users going over to the dark side... I sense a disturbance in the Microsoft Windows force. Don't miss this chance!
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☄ Helpfulby Wibbles 2017/12/02 08:49:15
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What good is outrage gonna do?
Unfortunately, this is what the sheep that have been brainwashed into believing is the path to social change. In reality, it only serves to divide people on topics, encourage entropy (and anarchy) which actually leads people who still have a brain to strongly oppose whatever position is being promoted. Naturally, the Elite love it; divide and conquer.
Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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Social Media: the opiate of the Millennials?
I'm off to see the Wibble, the wonderful Wibble of Wobble
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☄ Helpfulby craigb 2017/12/02 14:48:05
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bitman
What good is outrage gonna do?
Unfortunately, this is what the sheep that have been brainwashed into believing is the path to social change. In reality, it only serves to divide people on topics, encourage entropy (and anarchy) which actually leads people who still have a brain to strongly oppose whatever position is being promoted. Naturally, the Elite love it; divide and conquer.
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