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Reason6 announced x64 c/w Rewire so will X1C have x64rewire enabled?

http://www.propellerheads...rticle&article=FAQ

Is ReWire going to be 64-bit too? Just as Reason 6 and Reason Essentials, ReWire will be 64-bit too. Note that 64-bit ReWire needs to be implemented in both the slave application (Reason 6, Reason Essentials) and your host. Please contact the manufacturer of your ReWire host of choice for compatibility information.


Available Sept 11.....

So will Cw implement Rewire x64 in X1C ?


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    Re:Reason6 announced x64 c/w Rewire so will X1C have x64rewire enabled? 2011/07/12 09:14:18 (permalink)
    Good Catch... Reason 6 64bit... I want that Echo plugin... 

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    Re:Reason6 announced x64 c/w Rewire so will X1C have x64rewire enabled? 2011/07/12 09:53:54 (permalink)
    You never know.

    Cakewalk worked very close with them for the 64 bit REX 2 libraries so you never know.

    BUT. Does reason 64 bit necessarily mean 64 bit rewire support?

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    Re:Reason6 announced x64 c/w Rewire so will X1C have x64rewire enabled? 2011/07/12 10:54:16 (permalink)
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    BUT. Does reason 64 bit necessarily mean 64 bit rewire support?


    You didn't read the quoted link did you?

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    Re:Reason6 announced x64 c/w Rewire so will X1C have x64rewire enabled? 2011/07/12 11:22:47 (permalink)
    So my main comment still stands.

    You never know.

    Cakewalk worked very close with them for the 64 bit REX 2 libraries so you never know.

    BUT. Does reason 64 bit necessarily mean 64 bit rewire support?

    I shoulld have worded it better and said:

    BUT. Does reason 64 bit necessarily mean 64 bit rewire support in SONAR?

    The article implies that there are hosts that offer it so its more than likely SONAR will be one of them. It maybe one of the surprises that was suggested would be in X1C. On the other hand with the release of Reason 6 not till Sept and X1C in August maybe we'll have to wait for X2

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    Re:Reason6 announced x64 c/w Rewire so will X1C have x64rewire enabled? 2011/07/12 12:04:28 (permalink)
    I guess record hasn't / isn't the big hit they wanted.

    I prefer to hear from the tech people rather than the marketing lot, regardless of the company.

    kinda laughable really that they are implementing 64 bit rewire when they realise their long term customers have had enough and they might start losing custom of they don't make it 64 bit .

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    Re:Reason6 announced x64 c/w Rewire so will X1C have x64rewire enabled? 2011/07/12 12:50:11 (permalink)
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    kinda laughable really that they are implementing 64 bit rewire when they realise their long term customers have had enough and they might start losing custom of they don't make it 64 bit .


    I stopped upgrading after Reason3 waiting for x64 rewire........if CW implement the x64 Rewire in X1C, Props might get my upgrade money for Reason6....if not then they won't

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    Re:Reason6 announced x64 c/w Rewire so will X1C have x64rewire enabled? 2011/07/12 12:54:39 (permalink)
    I was about to start this same thread...glad that you beat me to it.  ;-)

    It will be really nice to see Rewire return to SONAR 64-bit. I honestly don't expect the bakers to comment on it until its ready to go out the door. However, they have surprised me before and this would be a welcome one.

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    Re:Reason6 announced x64 c/w Rewire so will X1C have x64rewire enabled? 2011/07/12 13:24:40 (permalink)
    Rewire 64 will most likely be a 64 bit DLL. It should run if the host is already 64 bit. I may surmise any 64 bit Sonar (X1 or 8.5) is already compatible.
    What will be more interesting, is whether a bridge of some kind will make older 32 bit apps, like Project 5, run as Rewire in Sonar 64.
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    Re:Reason6 announced x64 c/w Rewire so will X1C have x64rewire enabled? 2011/07/12 14:41:43 (permalink)
    ReWire will be 64-bit too. Note that 64-bit ReWire needs to be implemented in both the slave application (Reason 6, Reason Essentials) and your host. Please contact the manufacturer of your ReWire host of choice for compatibility information.


    http://www.propellerheads.se/reason6/index.cfm?fuseaction=get_article&article=FAQ


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    Re:Reason6 announced x64 c/w Rewire so will X1C have x64rewire enabled? 2011/07/12 18:17:43 (permalink)
    I am looking forward to Rewire returning in 64-bit Sonar.

    Say what you want about Reason but, dang it, it's fun! The combo of Sonar and Reason is awesome.
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    Re:Reason6 announced x64 c/w Rewire so will X1C have x64rewire enabled? 2011/07/12 22:10:22 (permalink)
    I suggest a more effective method than wondering whether 64 bit Rewire will be a future inclusion is to submit a formal feature request.

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    Re:Reason6 announced x64 c/w Rewire so will X1C have x64rewire enabled? 2011/07/12 22:32:43 (permalink)
    The combo of Sonar and Reason is awesome. 


    +1


    Interesting how all the people on the Propellerheads forum moan about how long it takes between new versions for Reason/Record/Recycle. It doesn't bother me- Reason/Record is bulletproof.


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    Re:Reason6 announced x64 c/w Rewire so will X1C have x64rewire enabled? 2011/07/12 22:47:26 (permalink)
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    The combo of Sonar and Reason is awesome. 


    +1


    Interesting how all the people on the Propellerheads forum moan about how long it takes between new versions for Reason/Record/Recycle. It doesn't bother me- Reason/Record is bulletproof.


    +1 also.

    I like the way you can buy their new audio I/F Balance bundled with Reason Essentials for $200 over the price of Essentials alone.

    Man, $200 for an interface that's on a par with a UG-1A as part of a package... they are masters at marketing for sure...

    Some might find it galling too having kept up with all the upgrades will be paying the same as someone coming from v2.5 say.

    The other thing is that Reason 4 even rewired into Sonar 32 bit has more 'essentials' than the new Essentials so unless I can get a sweet deal on R5 and Record U/G that includes the free update to 6, I shall be staying where I am quite happily.
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    Re:Reason6 announced x64 c/w Rewire so will X1C have x64rewire enabled? 2011/07/13 05:52:37 (permalink)
    The new X64 REX-files format in SONAR X1 x64 work. But as far as I understand the new REX64 support are still just fake x64. Its runs under its own bitbridge in SONAR X1 platform. Perhaps REWIRE X64 will work and do the same? Fake x64 bitbridge of 32bit? 

    Never then less it will work on x64 platforms and that's a good thing.

     
     
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    Personally I never use any REWIRE for anything. I don't use Reason x32 or Ableton LIVE x32, so I have no direct usage of it at the moment. As you perhaps also have notice for the last years, all 3 part software manufacturers has stop use and dropped both REWIRE or REX-files as format to work with or support it. (Kontakt 4 and STYLUS RMX Import it but change it to their own x64 FORMAT) 
     
    The only one that still keep using it are Propellerheads themself and Ableton LIVE, that digged their own grave when they implemented Propellerheads REX Technology in their AUDIO engine. That's why Ableton LIVE are still in x32 and can't make their Ableton LIVE in Native x64 until Propellerheads update their old outdate Technology from the 90ths . 
    All other 3 part software manufacturers has already got tired and feed up with Propellerheads slow understanding of the big importans of supporting new plattform and new Tecnology like 64bit Technology. The future has been for many years x64bit system and platforms. As far as I understand, and please tell me if I'm wrong The MASTER-MIND of all these  Propellerheads Technology are not with the company anymore. So that's why noone in Propellerheads compnay have the competence to build the CODE in x64 either.
    I still think the competence are there to program x64bit code but when you first made the ORIGINAL CODE you didn't plan for the FUTURE. so now are you are just f-ucked. You can't make it in x64. You need to start all over agin from scratch. That reminds me of other Company and DAW platform that are in the same situation called PRO TOOLS, but that's another story.
     
    Propellerheads has now recently come to same conclutions that everyone else did years a go...X64bit are the FUTURE...but  now its just to late?....

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    Re:Reason6 announced x64 c/w Rewire so will X1C have x64rewire enabled? 2011/07/13 05:57:04 (permalink)
    I can't see why it would be "too late". Reason is still hugely popular.

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    Re:Reason6 announced x64 c/w Rewire so will X1C have x64rewire enabled? 2011/07/13 06:09:45 (permalink)
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    I can't see why it would be "too late". Reason is still hugely popular.

    No of course not... just saying its going to take a long time doing so...
    Great that now the first x64bit product will finally come...


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    Re:Reason6 announced x64 c/w Rewire so will X1C have x64rewire enabled? 2011/07/13 06:15:24 (permalink)
    Reason 6 rewired to Sonar means you'll have to circumnavigate 2 'pro-channels' just to get a clean signal.



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    Re:Reason6 announced x64 c/w Rewire so will X1C have x64rewire enabled? 2011/07/13 06:34:10 (permalink)
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    The truth and Story behind it 
     
    Personally I never use any REWIRE for anything. I don't use Reason x32 or Ableton LIVE x32, so I have no direct usage of it at the moment. As you perhaps also have notice for the last years, all 3 part software manufacturers has stop use and dropped both REWIRE or REX-files as format to work with or support it. (Kontakt 4 and STYLUS RMX Import it but change it to their own x64 FORMAT) 
     
    The only one that still keep using it are Propellerheads themself and Ableton LIVE, that digged their own grave when they implemented Propellerheads REX Technology in their AUDIO engine. That's why Ableton LIVE are still in x32 and can't make their Ableton LIVE in Native x64 until Propellerheads update their old outdate Technology from the 90ths . 
    All other 3 part software manufacturers has already got tired and feed up with Propellerheads slow understanding of the big importans of supporting new plattform and new Tecnology like 64bit Technology. The future has been for many years x64bit system and platforms. As far as I understand, and please tell me if I'm wrong The MASTER-MIND of all these  Propellerheads Technology are not with the company anymore. So that's why noone in Propellerheads compnay have the competence to build the CODE in x64 either.
    I still think the competence are there to program x64bit code but when you first made the ORIGINAL CODE you didn't plan for the FUTURE. so now are you are just f-ucked. You can't make it in x64. You need to start all over agin from scratch. That reminds me of other Company and DAW platform that are in the same situation called PRO TOOLS, but that's another story.
     
    Propellerheads has now recently come to same conclutions that everyone else did years a go...X64bit are the FUTURE...but  now its just to late?....


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    Re:Reason6 announced x64 c/w Rewire so will X1C have x64rewire enabled? 2011/07/13 10:27:09 (permalink)
    Reason 6 will now have a dongle 

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    Re:Reason6 announced x64 c/w Rewire so will X1C have x64rewire enabled? 2011/07/13 21:52:58 (permalink)
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    Reason 6 will now have a dongle 


    doesn't surprise me as I own record as well ( and that has one) .. probably why the upgrade is cheaper for record owners. A lot of the new stuff is recycled from record anyway.

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    Re:Reason6 announced x64 c/w Rewire so will X1C have x64rewire enabled? 2011/07/13 22:54:43 (permalink)
    I'd rather PHeads drop the whole IDE thing (it's awkward and clunky in my opinion), and release their instruments and effects as separate vst/i's. I'd use the heck out of Thor in Sonar. But I hate the rewire thing. My system has memory issues as is. Running both at the same time is out.
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    Re:Reason6 announced x64 c/w Rewire so will X1C have x64rewire enabled? 2011/07/14 06:00:51 (permalink)
    Well that's a good reason tpo go x64 - to overcome those memory issues.

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    Re:Reason6 announced x64 c/w Rewire so will X1C have x64rewire enabled? 2011/07/14 06:08:13 (permalink)
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    Well that's a good reason tpo go x64 - to overcome those memory issues.


    +1 to this.

    Rewire for me makes Reason the most ultimately configurable meta-plugin you can get for Sonar.  I'll often use less system resources using it than I would loading up the whole rake of VST(i)'s required to do the same job instead.

    Add to that I'll have prototyped a complete arrangement in what has just been called Reason's 'clunky IDE thing' running it standalone in a quarter of the time I'd have got it done in anything else.
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    Re:Reason6 announced x64 c/w Rewire so will X1C have x64rewire enabled? 2011/07/15 10:49:23 (permalink)
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    ReWire will be 64-bit too. Note that 64-bit ReWire needs to be implemented in both the slave application (Reason 6, Reason Essentials) and your host. Please contact the manufacturer of your ReWire host of choice for compatibility information.


    http://www.propellerheads.se/reason6/index.cfm?fuseaction=get_article&article=FAQ



    Why did you just repeat my opening post?

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    Re:Reason6 announced x64 c/w Rewire so will X1C have x64rewire enabled? 2011/07/15 10:49:53 (permalink)
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    ReWire will be 64-bit too. Note that 64-bit ReWire needs to be implemented in both the slave application (Reason 6, Reason Essentials) and your host. Please contact the manufacturer of your ReWire host of choice for compatibility information.


    http://www.propellerheads.se/reason6/index.cfm?fuseaction=get_article&article=FAQ



    Why did you just repeat my opening post?

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    whoops double post LOL

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    Re:Reason6 announced x64 c/w Rewire so will X1C have x64rewire enabled? 2011/07/15 11:19:22 (permalink)
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    ReWire will be 64-bit too. Note that 64-bit ReWire needs to be implemented in both the slave application (Reason 6, Reason Essentials) and your host. Please contact the manufacturer of your ReWire host of choice for compatibility information.


    http://www.propellerheads.se/reason6/index.cfm?fuseaction=get_article&article=FAQ



    Why did you just repeat my opening post?
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    Re:Reason6 announced x64 c/w Rewire so will X1C have x64rewire enabled? 2011/07/15 11:53:04 (permalink)
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    ReWire will be 64-bit too. Note that 64-bit ReWire needs to be implemented in both the slave application (Reason 6, Reason Essentials) and your host. Please contact the manufacturer of your ReWire host of choice for compatibility information.


    http://www.propellerheads.se/reason6/index.cfm?fuseaction=get_article&article=FAQ



    Why did you just repeat my opening post?

     
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    You never know.

    Cakewalk worked very close with them for the 64 bit REX 2 libraries so you never know.

    BUT. Does reason 64 bit necessarily mean 64 bit rewire support?
      
     
    ReWire will be 64-bit too.
     
    That's WHY!
    post edited by Freddie H - 2011/07/15 11:54:28


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    Re:Reason6 announced x64 c/w Rewire so will X1C have x64rewire enabled? 2011/07/15 12:16:46 (permalink)

      
     
    ReWire will be 64-bit too.
     
    That's WHY!

    Which was the point I made in my opening post.....but it'll only be worth upgrading if cakewalk implement it in X1 x64 which was my question


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