Record MIDI with DirectSound?

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2005/08/23 13:07:30 (permalink)

Record MIDI with DirectSound?

Is there any way I could record my MIDIs using DirectSound? I have a player with a game of mine that uses DirectSound to play the MIDIs and it makes my songs sound absolutely awesome! Can SONAR record with DirectSound (If so, how?) or do I have to use some other program?

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    tor
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    RE: Record MIDI with DirectSound? 2005/08/23 14:07:04 (permalink)
    DirectSound is just a name for the wave-audio component used by Microsoft in their DirectX technology, that handles playback and recording among other things.
    If you want to record something from one device to another, simply connect audio out in your player to audio in on your pc.
    Sonar is built for recording audio and midi, so it's definitely up to the task.........
    The soundcard decides what driver technology to use, most common are ASIO and WDM, which are the professional ways to go.
    Sonar is compatible with both.
    DirectSound is more a standard in multimediapcs purchased at your local computer store, for amateur use.
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    Koroshiya
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    RE: Record MIDI with DirectSound? 2005/09/14 18:57:45 (permalink)
    You totally lost me there, dude... Care explaining in more simple terms?
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    RE: Record MIDI with DirectSound? 2005/09/15 00:49:42 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: Koroshiya

    You totally lost me there, dude... Care explaining in more simple terms?


    IMHO, tor has provided a very clear and precise response. Your question, OTOH, lacks in this department. To me it sounds like: "I saw a digital portrait photo with no red eyes. Is this possible?"
    No offense intended, but you're making assumptions in your initial post that just don't connect.

    loop

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    Koroshiya
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    RE: Record MIDI with DirectSound? 2005/09/15 01:57:03 (permalink)
    You automatically assume that I know how to work SONAR. Tor stated the where to go, but not how to get there.

    I know only basic usage for SONAR; Composing and recording to .wav or .mp3 (whichever suits my purpose). And that is all I need. I'm not a home studio, I write music for the games I program.

    I want to know is if it is possible to record a MIDI using DirectSound with SONAR? And if so, how does one go about doing so? A step-by-step guide would be very appreciated.
    post edited by Koroshiya - 2005/09/15 02:07:33
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    Junski
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    RE: Record MIDI with DirectSound? 2005/09/15 03:28:27 (permalink)
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    post edited by Junski - 2006/01/14 03:28:14


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    RE: Record MIDI with DirectSound? 2005/09/15 05:02:10 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Koroshiya

    You totally lost me there, dude... Care explaining in more simple terms?


    In my experience it's also dependent on the drivers available to your soundcard.

    Some drivers are made that way that you have an option "What Y hear" and that is the actuall output from anything in windows audio, including the synths played.

    But if this ever is available in Sonar, I cannot say.

    But you may very well use soundrecorder in windows to do it, or some other software supporting recording DirectSound drivers.

    After that you can move this wave to Sonar if needed.

    If I'm not mistaken I read somewhere about how to make audio from midi in Sonar having such an example in tutorials. Attack your manual a bit more maybe.
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    RE: Record MIDI with DirectSound? 2005/09/15 06:55:22 (permalink)
    I want to know is if it is possible to record a MIDI using DirectSound with SONAR? And if so, how does one go about doing so? A step-by-step guide would be very appreciated.


    First you need to understand that MIDI is not sound, it's just control info. It's not a question of direct sound or whatever driver, it's the instrument playing the MIDI file. And that's not a question of Sonar, but of the soft synth manufacturers. Just pick the synth(s) with the sound you need/like and route your MIDI file/track to it, there are hundreds of VSTs or DXis available.

    See the Sonar4 built-in Tutorial 8 for step by step instructions.

    loop

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    RE: Record MIDI with DirectSound? 2005/09/15 15:15:15 (permalink)
    hehe...LoopJunkie from Hamburg (my uncle lives in Hamburg!!).....anyways i got a couple of questions: i use midi with VSC and i get high latency and unfortunately my scard does not support midi in/out. how can i go abt playing midis ??any alternative solutions?should i buy a new soundcard ? ..and a 2nd question,i play the guitar and i use sonar to make recordings... but lately i recorded a song and i get dropouts!!!!!! is it low requirements?! ok here is what i use: M audio delta 44, PC: Pentium 4, CPU 1.5 Ghz, 512 RAM....oh and i have an older soundblaster live!(should i disconnect it?!)
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    RE: Record MIDI with DirectSound? 2005/09/15 15:31:02 (permalink)
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    post edited by Junski - 2006/01/14 03:29:18


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    RE: Record MIDI with DirectSound? 2005/09/15 19:09:23 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: tsatsos007

    hehe...LoopJunkie from Hamburg (my uncle lives in Hamburg!!).....anyways i got a couple of questions: i use midi with VSC and i get high latency and unfortunately my scard does not support midi in/out. how can i go abt playing midis ??any alternative solutions?should i buy a new soundcard ? ..and a 2nd question,i play the guitar and i use sonar to make recordings... but lately i recorded a song and i get dropouts!!!!!! is it low requirements?! ok here is what i use: M audio delta 44, PC: Pentium 4, CPU 1.5 Ghz, 512 RAM....oh and i have an older soundblaster live!(should i disconnect it?!)


    My Delta 44 runs fine with <10 ms latency and doesn't have dropouts, unless I really overload my system with lots of soft synths and numerous track FX. I use the older .27 driver in WDM mode.

    It's always a good idea to rip out Soundblasters, they can really screw up things - get a cheap MIDI interface instead.

    loop

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    RE: Record MIDI with DirectSound? 2005/09/15 19:17:48 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: Koroshiya

    Is there any way I could record my MIDIs using DirectSound? I have a player with a game of mine that uses DirectSound to play the MIDIs and it makes my songs sound absolutely awesome! Can SONAR record with DirectSound (If so, how?) or do I have to use some other program?-Koroshiya


    Your post is hard to answer without more specifics.

    Are we talking about General Midi files here?
    Are you using a soft synth or external hardware synth?
    Have you got any ofthe files to play in SONAR?

    What version of SONAR?
    Are you familiar with midi?
    Do you know that midi is NOT audio?

    Do you know how to run a SoftSynth in SONAR?

    If you can shed a bit more light on your situation we may be able to help you.

    post edited by GypsyJazz - 2005/09/15 19:46:49

    MIDI IS NOT AUDIO
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    Al
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    RE: Record MIDI with DirectSound? 2005/09/15 19:52:14 (permalink)
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    nice ..having fun?

    If you can shed a bit more light on your situation we may be able to help you

    ..and so all others -

    Koroshiya posted his Q back in 08/23 and then after coming back here (3 weeks later) to read the responds he got
    he wasn't really "pleased" i guess.. "You totally lost me there, dude... " DUDE ? SIMPLE terms ?

    y'all did your best ;)

    Much fun with ours to natural resound! <G>
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    Al
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    RE: Record MIDI with DirectSound? 2005/09/16 11:02:55 (permalink)
    hey BTW ... see how many stupid questions we have here on page 1 for the last 3 days... could be trolls but probably it's just newbies

    Much fun with ours to natural resound! <G>
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    Koroshiya
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    RE: Record MIDI with DirectSound? 2005/09/16 13:37:28 (permalink)
    Are we talking about General Midi files here? Yes
    Are you using a soft synth or external hardware synth? I have no idea
    Have you got any ofthe files to play in SONAR? Yes

    What version of SONAR? 3 Producer Edition
    Are you familiar with midi? Just writing and recording to wave or mp3
    Do you know that midi is NOT audio? Not until previous posts

    Do you know how to run a SoftSynth in SONAR? No


    You people are making huge deal over nothing. All I wanted to know is if it was possible to record a MIDI that has been affected by DirectSound through SONAR. A yes or no answer would have sufficed. I'll make sure to post any future questions elsewhere since most of you have no tolerance for those who are still in the learning process.
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    RE: Record MIDI with DirectSound? 2005/09/16 17:33:29 (permalink)
    All I wanted to know is if it was possible to record a MIDI that has been affected by DirectSound through SONAR. A yes or no answer would have sufficed. I'll make sure to post any future questions elsewhere since most of you have no tolerance for those who are still in the learning process.


    It has been pointed out in numbing detail why your question doesn't apply. An analogy would be:"Are politicians against war - yes or no? What's better, apples or oranges?"

    We also pointed out with detailed references where and how to learn more to understand the basics. If you are not interested by making a small investment of your time and make an effort to understand the responses, and go through the tutorials or manual to learn how to resolve your issue - too bad.

    So here's your answer: "YES". Happy now? Does it help? All resolved? I thought so ...

    (muttering: "we got suckered by another &§%ing troll ...")

    loop

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    RE: Record MIDI with DirectSound? 2005/09/17 02:11:53 (permalink)
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    post edited by Junski - 2006/01/14 03:30:20


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    RE: Record MIDI with DirectSound? 2005/09/18 10:56:44 (permalink)
    Junski

    you should be awarded an extra star for futility by explaining basics from the manual to somebody absolutely disinterested in learning anything ...

    loop

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    RE: Record MIDI with DirectSound? 2005/09/18 21:28:52 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: Koroshiya
    You people are making huge deal over nothing. All I wanted to know is if it was possible to record a MIDI that has been affected by DirectSound through SONAR. A yes or no answer would have sufficed. I'll make sure to post any future questions elsewhere since most of you have no tolerance for those who are still in the learning process.


    hehehehe
    Just in case you didn't know it
    was obvious from your very
    1st sentence that you were
    "still in the learning process"
    LOL.

    And ...furthermore....incredible as it may seem....
    some of us actually require a certain humility
    and grace from those "still in the learning process"
    (LOL).

    If you're nice to us we'll be nice to you, in the main.

    What was it exactly that "we" did to annoy you?
    All I see is some "regulars" here (myself included)
    trying to steer you gently in the right direction....

    Is that too much for your noob brain to handle?
    Or are you just weak and simple minded?

    MIDI IS NOT AUDIO
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