Recorded Sound is Warbled

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2011/05/15 20:05:03 (permalink)

Recorded Sound is Warbled

Sound recorded in X1, through either the line-in or mic, plays back sounding warbled for me.  It is somewhere between static noise and one of those toy megaphones that makes your voice sound like a spring.  The levels are not hitting red while I record.

Playback through the speakers while recording sounds normal, whether through the sound card or the X1 Input Echo.  Recording with Windows Sound Recorder also sounds normal, so it must be Cakewalk.  Also, software synths record and play back just fine.

Realtek HD Audio, ALC892 Codec, on a Gigabyte X58-USB3 MoBo
6 GB of RAM

Let me know what else I can supply?

Please do help, or let me know where to even start.  Thanks.
post edited by kevincs - 2011/05/15 20:07:12
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    The Maillard Reaction
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    Re:Recorded Sound is Warbled 2011/05/15 20:54:19 (permalink)
    Let us know what bit depth and sample rate you are using.

    There may be a clue in that info.

    best regards,
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    Re:Recorded Sound is Warbled 2011/05/15 22:26:41 (permalink)
    mike has a good point..ussualy this is a bit depth problem..are you dithering down?..not sure if theres a setting in the aud ini file too..thought i heard someone mention that

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    Re:Recorded Sound is Warbled 2011/05/15 22:41:25 (permalink)
    Hi Kevin,

    I would suspect that the on-board realtek sound chip is going to be your biggest problem.

    You really need a better sound card for audio work.
    With the on-board Realtek sound card you have, the CPU is really doing all the work which would normally be
    performed by a good quality sound card that is designed to do the job you're asking of it.


    You may (or may not ?) be able to get a better result with your on-board sound card that what you're currently
    getting, but ultimately you will need to look at getting a better sound card in the long run.


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    Re:Recorded Sound is Warbled 2011/05/16 07:42:03 (permalink)
    The onboard card can run just fine... especially if all you want is one or two in/out connections.

    One thing I suspect is the possibility that the specs on the sound device may be a bit inaccurate.

    Sometimes we see things like "24bit" specs being made via internal up convert interpolation for recording... and sample rates being provided for via kludges.

    If you use the onboard sound at it's actual native settings it can run smooth.

    The idea I am suggesting is that one should compare their settings against the sound device's innate specs and see if they are using the device to it's best advantage.

    best regards,
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    Re:Recorded Sound is Warbled 2011/05/16 18:03:14 (permalink)
    Thanks Mike.

    Record bit depth is 16 @ 44100 Hz.

    (Render bit depth is 32.... I assume this is for output files?)

    In my Audio Control Panel for my sound chip, I have 16 bits @ 44100Hz.  (16 bits is the max).  So everything there lines up.


    Cliffr:

    I had been thinking since other software can record just fine, it was not a problem with sound card.  I know if I want studio quality, I need a dedicated card.  CPU is a 17 950 @ 3.5 MHz.


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    Re:Recorded Sound is Warbled 2011/05/16 19:03:00 (permalink)
    Try running Wave Profiler again.

    And can you describe warbly again? Is it really slowing and speeding up or is it crackliy distorted etc.?

    best,
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    Re:Recorded Sound is Warbled 2011/05/16 23:57:51 (permalink)
    How about posting a sample of the "warbly" sound so we can have a look/listen?


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    Re:Recorded Sound is Warbled 2011/05/17 22:19:23 (permalink)
    Ok, I should update the description from warbled to maybe buzzing, or static.  But it only plays when there is audio, not during silence, and the effect is proportional to volume. 

    I'm using the "Ext. Speaker" output on a small guitar amp, which asks 8 ohm minimum.  It seems like the line-in on my motherboard has 32 kohm input impedance.  But again, with the same setup, the effect only happens in Cakewalk, not other recording software.

    There is also a headphone out on the amp, but it ends up too quiet to pick up anything using wither the line-in or mic jacks on my computer. 


    And, a clip (mp3 for size, wav sounds the same):

    http://www.mediafire.com/?l0owvfzrxg7qgk0
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    Re:Recorded Sound is Warbled 2011/05/18 00:12:10 (permalink)
    Hmm, had a listen and it sounds like what happens with a bad level or impeedance mismatch to me.

    I've also heard very similar results when trying to use an onboard sound card too.
    Be interested to hear what Bit thinks.

    What input did you record that using, the Line-in or Mic input ?.
    What levels do the Sonar meters show when recording ?
    Also what about meter levels during playback ?.
    Does the waveform look clipped in the waveform view ?.

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    Re:Recorded Sound is Warbled 2011/05/18 07:38:11 (permalink)
    I had the same problem with my Echo Audio Layla 24 card in Windows 7 x64 while using WDM dirver mode.  The problem went away when I switched to ASIO mode.
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    Re:Recorded Sound is Warbled 2011/05/18 12:48:33 (permalink)
    Cliff:

    That was recorded using Line-In.  My first thought was a bad level, so I made sure that they stayed yellow during recording, and that they are the same during playback.

    The sound through the speakers is fine when recording, but there are separate record and play-through volume sliders in my sound card control panel.  Reducing the record slider to ensure lower levels doesn't change the effect, just volume.

    I'm interested in looking closer at the waveform when I get home.  Thanks again.

    Kevin


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    Re:Recorded Sound is Warbled 2011/05/18 20:51:46 (permalink)
    I hear these things:  The guitar sounds muffled and distant - a result of impedance mis-match using line-in.  A cheap (but real) sound card will fix this.

    The static-y sound sounds like driver/irq to me. Switching to ASIO drivers may help.  Failing that, a real card + ASIO  drivers. Disconnect your external cabling and record a bit to confirm that the static isn't being introduced externally.  It's too irregular to be a motor but you might want to look around for anything that might generate interference.


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    Re:Recorded Sound is Warbled 2011/05/26 21:34:38 (permalink)
    ASIO4ALL fixed this for me.

    Thanks for the heads up!
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