Recording congas and djembe

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2011/03/11 09:15:06 (permalink)

Recording congas and djembe

I have a drummer coming over Sunday to record some percussion for some acoustic tracks.
 
For congas, I was planning on using two large diaphram condensor mics in a stereo configuration, above the congas a couple of feet. Aimed towards the heads?
For djembe, I wasn't sure if I should mic the top and the bottom? Or just mic it from a couple of feet away with the mic placed to pick up the full drum?
 
Any advice is appreciated. Thanks!!
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    Re:Recording congas and djembe 2011/03/11 10:13:36 (permalink)
    I am working on a project with congas.  I have read a lot of suggestions about recording live percussion. Many people suggest using a wood floor - or a sheet of plywood underneath the drums to get a good live sound. 

    I have a small room and tried a lot of things - and what worked best for me - was taking the congas off their stands and placing them directly on a carpet floor.  I set a SDC mic about 1 foot away - slightly elevated - aiming down towards the middle of the 2 drums. 

    The song I am recording has a lot of elements and so far in my process, the congas have been sitting nicely in the mix. 


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    Re:Recording congas and djembe 2011/03/11 11:10:12 (permalink)
    Thanks for sharing your experience! The comment about placing the congas directly on the floor surprised me. Does the bottom of the drum not contribute to the sound of the conga the way that it does for the djembe?
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    Re:Recording congas and djembe 2011/03/11 12:29:57 (permalink)
    Multiple microphones to multiple channels would give multiple options.  Just completed a similar recording of a cajon.  SM58 in rear with a large diaphram in front.  Make sure they are in phase and lay some tracks.

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    Re:Recording congas and djembe 2011/03/12 11:30:43 (permalink)
    dlogan


    Thanks for sharing your experience! The comment about placing the congas directly on the floor surprised me. Does the bottom of the drum not contribute to the sound of the conga the way that it does for the djembe?


    The bottom of the conga does contribute sound as far as I know, it's more about loudness. 

    My congas are fiberglass.  They sound good - but they are loud as hell.  In my small basement studio - the sound rings out loudly.  When I tried recording them, I got a lot of residual sound that was harsh.  When I put them directly on the floor - the residual sound went away and I was able to concentrate on getting the sound of the hand hitting the top of the drum.  For my busy mix,  the attack part of the sound is what I am trying to capture.  So far it has been sitting nicely in the mix. 

    I think the main things you have to consider - the room where you are recording (Larger rooms are supposed to be the best for live hand drum sounds) and the song you're working on.  (fitting the drum sounds in the mix). 

    The only way to know what works best is to experiment with different set ups until you find what's right.



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    Re:Recording congas and djembe 2011/03/16 14:38:19 (permalink)
    dave - how did this go?  what did you end up doing?

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    Re:Recording congas and djembe 2011/03/16 17:01:17 (permalink)
    Congas - used two RODE NT1s on a stereo bar, about 1 1/2 feet away from the congas, and about 1 1/2 feet above them. Pointed down toward the heads. Left them on the stands. Panned them hard right/hard left. Turned out awesome!! I'll post a sample soon. If I had to do it over again I wouldn't change a thing.

    Djembe - end up using one condensor mic (my Blue Blueberry) placed about 2 feet from the djembe somewhere between the head and the bottom to pick up a balance of both sounds. It didn't quite capture the depth of the drum, but then again I'm not sure how much of that really low end I would have been able to keep in the mix anyway. But the performance was fantastic so I'm really happy with that track.
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