eul126
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Recording in Mono?
How do I record a vocal track in Mono? Its defaulted in stereo. Im using a MAudio Mobile Pre USB.
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RE: Recording in Mono?
2009/04/28 23:40:17
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Select either the left or right input of the soundcard and not the stereo input.
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RE: Recording in Mono?
2009/04/29 07:38:27
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How do I record a vocal track in Mono? Its defaulted in stereo. Im using a MAudio Mobile Pre USB. what defaults to store? your track? Then select a mono input.. A mic is a mono signal, unless you have a stereo mic and i dont think you do. Just match your input to the input in sonar. Who cares what it defaults to. Sonar doesn't know what your recording. you actually need to select a mono input Cj
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eul126
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RE: Recording in Mono?
2009/04/29 15:10:00
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Thanks for the advice guys. I tried recording in Mono, but the sound only comes out of one speaker and of course, I'd like to have vocals come out of both sides. I'll play around with it when I get home.
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RE: Recording in Mono?
2009/04/29 15:34:35
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That's not 'recording in mono'. that's recording in 1/2 stereo.
On the audio track you want to record, you'll have at least 3 options: *Soundcard* Stereo, *Soundcard* L, and *Soundcard* R.
Choose either Left or Right as the Track Input, then make sure you use the corresponding input into your soundcard. That will give you one WAV file that you can pan wherever you like.
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eul126
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RE: Recording in Mono?
2009/04/29 22:00:52
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How do I use the corresponding input if my soundcard is a Line 6 XT Live?
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Beagle
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RE: Recording in Mono?
2009/04/29 22:38:00
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what are your choices for input in the drop down menu of the AUDIO TRACK?
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eul126
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RE: Recording in Mono?
2009/04/30 18:52:47
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The choices for input are L M-Audio, R M-Audio, and Stereo M-Audio.
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RE: Recording in Mono?
2009/04/30 20:15:06
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So select L M-Audio or R M-Audio, whichever corresponds to the input you are using.
You may also need to force the track into mono by clicking on the stereo interlace icon (looks like a bowtie).
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RE: Recording in Mono?
2009/05/01 05:58:15
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The choices for input are L M-Audio, R M-Audio, and Stereo M-Audio. L M-audio is input 1 R m-audio is input 2 Stereo m-audio is 1 and 2 This is why your seeing what your seeing, because you can chose a stereo input for a mono signal. Well, you can, but it will be one sided Im pretty sure this puts it to rest for you... Cj
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RE: Recording in Mono?
2009/05/02 04:09:48
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If you are using Windows you must go to the Windows mixer, make sure you are in the recording mode of it, and make sure you click Mic as the recording source ("Not Stereo Mix", or "What you Hear"). In that Mixer, the recording source must be Mic(rophone.
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RE: Recording in Mono?
2009/05/02 13:33:14
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ORIGINAL: NoKey
If you are using Windows you must go to the Windows mixer, make sure you are in the recording mode of it, and make sure you click Mic as the recording source ("Not Stereo Mix", or "What you Hear"). In that Mixer, the recording source must be Mic(rophone.
That's iffy, and specific to whatever you're using as your soundcard. Not a suggestion to be taken as gospel. I have Windows, and NO recording options in my Windows Mixer. I have an M-Audio card, and my in/out go through that.
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RE: Recording in Mono?
2009/05/02 13:58:49
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slugbaby's right - I do NOT use my windows mixer at all. I disabled my onboard soundcard and I only use the Delta 44 mixer now.
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RE: Recording in Mono?
2009/05/02 14:39:08
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Whatever Mixer be used, for mono recording as asked, the recording source needs to be Mic(rophone if mono recording, center-panned is to be the result, as asked.
And, even if the sound card comes with its own mixer, the Windows mixer still works for that, even if does not work for all of the features of the card.
Of course, I do also use the mixer that comes with with my sound card. In fact, I use two cards simultaneously in my laptop and in Cakewalk, can route the inputs and outputs independently, for each track, in any mix, with no glitch.
Sorry for not being too clear, or clear at all.
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RE: Recording in Mono?
2009/05/02 16:34:39
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I'm sure that works for your particular setup, NoKey, but for the device in question (the Mobile Pre), that is not a valid option.
To record a true mono track, one of the two available inputs must be selected, and recorded to a track with the stereo interlace set to mono. This will result in a single waveform, and the sound will be centered in the stereo field.
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RE: Recording in Mono?
2009/05/02 17:38:07
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Robert B, My reply is based on his having tried mono already and yet sound comes out only on one speaker. That's the case when the external input is still stero, for even if the settings in Cakewalk say something, something else may be happening, meaning Cakewalk not necessarily changes external things, it handles its internals well, though. For instance, even if one specifies "L" in Cakewalk, it actually is recording what it gets. This can be verified by EXPORTING the wave, and see that even though only one wave shows in the track, the exported file is still a STEREO wave, both pretty much identical. In other words, it manipulates internally what it got, to provide whatever one specifies, but does not actually control the external sources settings. Will add that, indeed, would never intend nor believe that what works somewhere carries on to somewhere else. The comment was meant, as probably most are, in the spirit that it might lead to resolving, and no more. I am here looking more for answers than to gospel any one, and do appreciate all the great info here.
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Slugbaby
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RE: Recording in Mono?
2009/05/03 11:29:08
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ORIGINAL: NoKey
Robert B,
My reply is based on his having tried mono already and yet sound comes out only on one speaker.
That's the case when the external input is still stero, for even if the settings in Cakewalk say something, something else may be happening, meaning Cakewalk not necessarily changes external things, it handles its internals well, though.
For instance, even if one specifies "L" in Cakewalk, it actually is recording what it gets. This can be verified by EXPORTING the wave, and see that even though only one wave shows in the track, the exported file is still a STEREO wave, both pretty much identical.
In other words, it manipulates internally what it got, to provide whatever one specifies, but does not actually control the external sources settings.
Will add that, indeed, would never intend nor believe that what works somewhere carries on to somewhere else. The comment was meant, as probably most are, in the spirit that it might lead to resolving, and no more.
I am here looking more for answers than to gospel any one, and do appreciate all the great info here.
One issue is that you wrote "YOU MUST" for a setup that's very user-specific. Yours is one option. Mine is another. So is Beagle's and Robert's. Must isn't a helpful term in an environment like this, where you're giving misguided info to a newbie trying to get his setup to work.
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RE: Recording in Mono?
2009/05/03 19:06:00
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All windows have a Windows mixer so it's hardly a 'user specific' reference. Disabling a card does not do away with that mixer, either. Where's the misguiding, specially with the "if" which should be obvious that there's no assurance nor guarantees anywhere, that I can see? Besides, the message is not meant but to the original questioner.
As a aside, I have yet to see a Windows mixer that does not have recording options, but I really don't care, if there's one somewhere.
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RE: Recording in Mono?
2009/05/03 20:13:28
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Just as further input, I recently changed my recording habits by recording dry guitar inputs instead of processed through Line 6 models. Part way through I realized I was wasting space recording in stereo as was my old (probably bad) habit; it made sense at the time because some of the Line 6 models had stereo field aspects... or at least I thought they did.
Anyhow, I didn't need to touch the Windows mixer. Just selected the input for a left channel and then changed the panning default from 100% left to something else. (You mentioned that when you export the project it's still full left, but if you didn't change the panning then Cakewalk will use that full left default.) Hope that helps.
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