Recording latency with ASIO.

Author
GoodGod
Max Output Level: -90 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 5
  • Joined: 2012/06/03 21:00:52
  • Status: offline
2012/06/03 21:24:37 (permalink)

Recording latency with ASIO.

Hi. I am running Sonar 6 in Windows 7 with a PreSonus Audiobox 22VSL (ASIO). I am using EZ Drummer plugin for drums, while recording guitar, bass and vocals. The "Record Latency Adjustment" is manually set to 1000, while ASIO reported latency is 2224. Still all my audio recordings are recorded too late, so I have to fysically drag the recordings a bit foreward to get correct timing. How can I get the recording latency down? I have deactivated most effects, and it got a little better, still not good enough, and I can't manually set the latency above 1000. I've read somewhere that ASIO4ALL might work better than the drivers that came with my soundcard to reduce the latency, is this correct?
#1

7 Replies Related Threads

    Beagle
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 50621
    • Joined: 2006/03/29 11:03:12
    • Location: Fort Worth, TX
    • Status: offline
    Re:Recording latency with ASIO. 2012/06/03 21:38:21 (permalink)
    why do you have the recording latency adjustment manually set to 1000?  it should be set to 0 unless you've done a round trip latency test to determine that sonar's calculation is that far off.  and even if you've done a test to determine the exact round trip latency, it shouldn't be anywhere near 1000 samples off.

    ASIO reported latency of 2224 is very high.  have you tried adjusting your hardware buffers in the audiobox's ASIO panel?

    ASIO4ALL is not good for drivers with native ASIO drivers.  I would not advise using ASIO4ALL for the audiobox.

    http://soundcloud.com/beaglesound/sets/featured-songs-1
    i7, 16G DDR3, Win10x64, MOTU Ultralite Hybrid MK3
    Yamaha MOXF6, Hammond XK3c, other stuff.
    #2
    GoodGod
    Max Output Level: -90 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 5
    • Joined: 2012/06/03 21:00:52
    • Status: offline
    Re:Recording latency with ASIO. 2012/06/03 21:42:24 (permalink)
    Yes, I have manually set it to 1000 after testing. The recordings was waaaay off when it was set to 0. I will try to adjust the hardware buffers during recording, and bump them up again while mixing.. that might actually do the trick :)
    #3
    Cactus Music
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 8424
    • Joined: 2004/02/09 21:34:04
    • Status: offline
    Re:Recording latency with ASIO. 2012/06/03 22:25:38 (permalink)
    You are doing something very, very wrong. Sonar automatically adjusts for what ever latency is present in any given system. There should never be a reason to manually adjust the timing offset. If there is, then something is terribly wrong with the compatibility of the software and the drivers.

    I have installed Sonar 6, 7 , 8 and x1 on numerous systems and I just let it figure out the latency adjustments. It is always bang on.

    But one thing that could be wrong with your situation is that Sonar 6 was never tested for Windows 7. And if you‘re running Windows 7 64 bit things could be very unstable. You should have been upgrading Sonar as that's the best way to avoid incompatibility issues. Either that or stay with a XP 32 bit OS.
     
    ASIO4 all is not the solution.
     
     
     

    Johnny V  
    Cakelab  
    Focusrite 6i61st - Tascam us1641. 
    3 Desktops and 3 Laptops W7 and W10
     http://www.cactusmusic.ca/
     
     
    #4
    Beagle
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 50621
    • Joined: 2006/03/29 11:03:12
    • Location: Fort Worth, TX
    • Status: offline
    Re:Recording latency with ASIO. 2012/06/04 22:37:47 (permalink)
    yeah, I agree with cactus.  IF you did a loop round trip recording test it should never be 1000 samples off even at high latencies using ASIO and an audiobox.

    sonar's ASIO adjustments should be very close - probably within 50 samples (and that's probably being generous).

    I would suggest you fix your hardware buffers, then do the test again - but make sure you're doing the round trip latency test correctly.  I can find a thread with instructions if you need it.

    http://soundcloud.com/beaglesound/sets/featured-songs-1
    i7, 16G DDR3, Win10x64, MOTU Ultralite Hybrid MK3
    Yamaha MOXF6, Hammond XK3c, other stuff.
    #5
    Cactus Music
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 8424
    • Joined: 2004/02/09 21:34:04
    • Status: offline
    Re:Recording latency with ASIO. 2012/06/05 09:34:54 (permalink)
    http://centrance.com/down...ent_instructions.shtml
     
    Download it's free.
    You run your audio interface outputs back to the inputs and run the test.
    Do not use input echo.
     
    While you have the cables hooked up try this other niffty test.
     
    Re- record a kick drum or snare track.  The track used for output can be audio or midi and you might want to test both.
    Arm a new audio track and record. 
    Put the 2 tracks side by side.  
    Zoom way way  in and see if the transients line up.
    This will test if Sonar's automatic offset is set properly.
    post edited by Cactus Music - 2012/06/05 18:39:27

    Johnny V  
    Cakelab  
    Focusrite 6i61st - Tascam us1641. 
    3 Desktops and 3 Laptops W7 and W10
     http://www.cactusmusic.ca/
     
     
    #6
    Beagle
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 50621
    • Joined: 2006/03/29 11:03:12
    • Location: Fort Worth, TX
    • Status: offline
    Re:Recording latency with ASIO. 2012/06/05 10:55:10 (permalink)
    thanks Johnny

    http://soundcloud.com/beaglesound/sets/featured-songs-1
    i7, 16G DDR3, Win10x64, MOTU Ultralite Hybrid MK3
    Yamaha MOXF6, Hammond XK3c, other stuff.
    #7
    SToons
    Max Output Level: -81 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 478
    • Joined: 2012/05/14 15:21:14
    • Status: offline
    Re:Recording latency with ASIO. 2012/06/06 03:53:03 (permalink)
    GoodGod


    Hi. I am running Sonar 6 in Windows 7 with a PreSonus Audiobox 22VSL (ASIO). I am using EZ Drummer plugin for drums, while recording guitar, bass and vocals. The "Record Latency Adjustment" is manually set to 1000, while ASIO reported latency is 2224. Still all my audio recordings are recorded too late, so I have to fysically drag the recordings a bit foreward to get correct timing. How can I get the recording latency down? I have deactivated most effects, and it got a little better, still not good enough, and I can't manually set the latency above 1000. I've read somewhere that ASIO4ALL might work better than the drivers that came with my soundcard to reduce the latency, is this correct?

    One thing you should check is Options>Audio; make sure the Presonus is listed as the Playback and Recording Timing Master. If you have another card or onboard sound then Sonar may not be using the Presonus for timing. If you have any other audio card or onboard sound you should consider disabling their drivers in Sonar. Just a quick thought.
    #8
    Jump to:
    © 2025 APG vNext Commercial Version 5.1