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2017/11/29 11:12:19 (permalink)

Recycling Samsung Evo

I just bought a Crucial CT240BX300SSD 240GB SDD in the Cyber Monday sales on Amazon. I know it's not the best of drives, so I was thinking to clone the Samsung EVO 850 EVO, which I bought in 2015, and has been used in my wife's laptop, and recycling that for my music laptop which currently runs on a 7500rpm HDD. The Samsung EVO has a 10 year warrenty and has only had light use, so should outlast the Crucial.
Anyone here think it's a good idea?
 
 

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Re: Recycling Samsung Evo 2017/11/29 11:33:12 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby burgerproduction 2017/11/30 13:04:49
I've been using an EVO 850 for several years.  I'm upgrading to a larger EVO 850 and putting the old one in a Laptop for dual boot (will only have Win 10, Sonar and Studio One 3 on it).  Samsung Magician still shows it as "Good".
 
 

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Re: Recycling Samsung Evo 2017/11/29 15:04:21 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby burgerproduction 2017/11/30 13:04:41
FWIW,
 
The 850 EVO series has a 5-year warranty
The 850 Pro series has a 10-year warranty
You'll achieve the same speed with either model.
 
MTBF on the EVO series is 1.5 million hours... so I wouldn't worry much about the warranty period.  
 
On Reads, the Crucial drives are close in speed to the 850 EVO/Pro

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Re: Recycling Samsung Evo 2017/12/01 03:38:26 (permalink)
Hey! I don't know a lot about computers!! I just bought a Samsung 850 EVO as well. I will be cloning my current drive to the Samsung 850 EVO. My question is what is "Over provisioning" and SHOULD I DO IT ???????????
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Re: Recycling Samsung Evo 2017/12/01 05:03:25 (permalink)
From Samsung:
 
"In addition to the benefits of OP, this technology reduces user accessible space. Therefore, under a light workload in a client PC application, users don’t need to set additional OP space. However, under a heavy workload (for example, a server, data center or heavy workload client PC applications), a minimum of 6.7% OP is recommended and over 20% and even 50% is being used. Different OP ratios are recommended depending upon usage applications and the workload."

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Re: Recycling Samsung Evo 2017/12/01 05:33:25 (permalink)
thanks Jim!!
 
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Re: Recycling Samsung Evo 2017/12/01 15:33:38 (permalink)
Well, I went ahead and cloned my wife's Evo onto the Crucial. Took about 20 minutes - SSD to SSD is super fast. Then I cloned my HDD to the Evo (took much longer). So far all all hunky-dory and old CPU hungry sessions are loading up and playing with no drop-out. Big improvement. I've just got to keep my recording drive on an external drive via serial port and avoid writing to the Evo for recording. Hopefully this will keep it working for many years to come.

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Re: Recycling Samsung Evo 2017/12/09 16:34:03 (permalink)
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Well, I went ahead and cloned my wife's Evo onto the Crucial. Took about 20 minutes - SSD to SSD is super fast. Then I cloned my HDD to the Evo (took much longer). So far all all hunky-dory and old CPU hungry sessions are loading up and playing with no drop-out. Big improvement. I've just got to keep my recording drive on an external drive via serial port and avoid writing to the Evo for recording. Hopefully this will keep it working for many years to come.


Why not record to the EVO? Is it just to conserve drive space?

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Re: Recycling Samsung Evo 2017/12/09 20:15:23 (permalink)
No. SSD drives have a limited number of writes over their lifespan, so if you 'record' to the drive in high definition wav, you'll use up that write limit quicker than the foreseen life expectancy of the drive. Ordinary HD's have an infinite number of write-erase so could (in theory) last forever, just as long as you don't drop them or put them too clode to heat/magnets. I use an external 7,200 HD connected via a SATA port which gives as good transfer rates as intenal HD drives. For recording, it's more than fast enough. For mixing, I may transfer the whole project to SSD (once I've taken out all the unwanted audio takes).
post edited by burgerproduction - 2017/12/10 09:16:42

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Re: Recycling Samsung Evo 2017/12/09 22:24:14 (permalink)
does Samsung Magician software have any NEGATIVE side effects for audio recording & mixing computers? Can I leave it on computer or should I remove Magician ?
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Re: Recycling Samsung Evo 2017/12/10 05:46:53 (permalink)
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No. SSD drives have a limited number of writes over their lifespan, so if you 'record' to the drive in high definition wav, you'll use up that write limit quicker than the foreseen life expectancy of the drive. HD


Ah, makes sense. Thanks.

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Re: Recycling Samsung Evo 2017/12/10 09:17:38 (permalink)
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does Samsung Magician software have any NEGATIVE side effects for audio recording & mixing computers? Can I leave it on computer or should I remove Magician ?

I've never had a problem with magician. I'd leave it.

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Re: Recycling Samsung Evo 2017/12/10 21:11:43 (permalink)
thanks burgerproduction!!!!
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