1andyf88
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Reference manual
Any chance of a PDF reference manual for platinum for offline perusal?
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Re: Reference manual
2015/02/08 20:20:00
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If all goes as before it should be soon. I hope!
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Re: Reference manual
2015/02/08 20:23:17
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As I recall, the one for X3 was about three weeks after the release. I wasn't sure if Cakewalk is planning a release for this version at all due to the online resources and the membership updating.
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Re: Reference manual
2015/02/08 21:55:29
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I hope that we get a proper manual. I know what you are saying Andy but let us cross our fingers that one is forthcoming soon.
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Re: Reference manual
2015/02/09 01:10:32
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Re: Reference manual
2015/02/09 01:18:06
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FWIW, the same information is provided in "C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\SONAR Platinum\SONAR.CHM" if the "SONAR Help and Tutorials" package is installed. The same CHM is available in Artist and Professional too.
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Re: Reference manual
2015/02/09 03:20:12
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And the beauty of it is that all the hyperlinks are active unlike a PDF. It makes getting around so much easier than the PDF which is just a big searchable text document.
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Re: Reference manual
2015/02/09 04:18:36
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it's perfectly possible to include links in a pdf
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Re: Reference manual
2015/02/09 04:48:22
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mudgel
And the beauty of it is that all the hyperlinks are active unlike a PDF. It makes getting around so much easier than the PDF which is just a big searchable text document.
I learned on thing just recently: click the little arrow in pdf search field Select the full reference search or similar then there is advanced search too You get a nice list of spots to just to, like search in windows help files(chm stuff). But manual itself is really not the best resource, so far. Sonar.chm is the one to download(or pick from installation if you installed tutorials too).
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Re: Reference manual
2015/02/09 06:03:57
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The PDF manual allows you to go from contents to item but from there that's it unless you use search. The chm file has links from TOC to items then to further notes etc.
Ive been an ardent PDF supporter for years and always point folks to using it but after 3 weeks of not having a PDF and only having the chm file I've found it to be more functional in its use. Just my opinion.
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Re: Reference manual
2015/02/09 06:21:19
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All very valid statements for the chm.
I Was looking for something to put on the iPad to read while offline and away from the desk. I Also realize with updates expected to occurs more frequently, it may be easier to maintain the online help as opposed to updating a PDF manual every year.
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Re: Reference manual
2015/02/09 08:51:59
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The PDF has an index that is hyperlinked. The help file is geared toward context sensitivity. The PDF is a proper manual with each section and chapter having its own logic. The help file is a bunch of independent references. The PDF can be read from beginning to end. The help file has no beginning or end.
The PDF is printable the help file is not so easy to print out and use as a manual. The PDF can be read on an android device the help file is Windows only.
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Re: Reference manual
2015/02/09 09:12:57
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A lot of folks prefer the PDF. I like the training materials in a notebook and use the .chm for updates.
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Re: Reference manual
2015/02/09 09:13:26
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John
The PDF has an index that is hyperlinked. The help file is geared toward context sensitivity.
The help file has an Index tab which is hyperlinked to the rest of the file.  John
The PDF is a proper manual with each section and chapter having its own logic. The help file is a bunch of independent references. The PDF can be read from beginning to end. The help file has no beginning or end.
It would appear the layout of the two documents are the same. Here is TOC and first page of the CHM. Also notice the navigation arrows at the top of the page. Those can step through the CHM one page at a time from the first to the last page.  John
The PDF is printable the help file is not so easy to print out and use as a manual. The PDF can be read on an android device the help file is Windows only.
I have not printed either and do not have an android device. I did search Google for printing CHM and CHM readers for android. There do seem to be solutions for both. None of this is to be taken as favoring one format over another. They both have their champions. They both contain the same data in the same layout.
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Re: Reference manual
2015/02/09 09:23:02
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Only expressing an opinion as I mentioned. We don't have a PDF option at the moment. I was making a case for the use of the help file for folks who were keen on getting help on particular features now. Like all these things it will be released when Cakewalk release it. At this time that is an unknown. In the meantime I suggest not minimising the value of the help file which is what we have at this time. It's the same information in the same format with the advantage that the online help file is updated as new features are added
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Re: Reference manual
2015/02/09 09:25:09
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Just a thought, for a quick conversion just search online for "Convert chm file to pdf" and you'll find many online services/programs.
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Re: Reference manual
2015/02/09 09:26:30
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Yeah, saw conversion utilities too when searching for print and android solutions.
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Re: Reference manual
2015/02/23 07:31:57
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Is Cakewalk getting any closer to releasing a PDF of the Platinum reference manual? I also run offline and it would be a big help for the new features in Platinum. There is no CHM help file in my Platinum folder. I just have the X3 file.
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Re: Reference manual
2015/02/23 11:16:55
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If the CHM file is not in "C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\SONAR Platinum" folder, try installing the "SONAR Help and Tutorials" package.
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Re: Reference manual
2015/02/23 22:20:38
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scook
If the CHM file is not in "C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\SONAR Platinum" folder, try installing the "SONAR Help and Tutorials" package.
^^^^ That's exactly what I've done since my DAW is typically offline. There's also an option in Preferences to use the offline version.
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Re: Reference manual
2015/02/24 09:26:01
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Thanks for the help scook & stevec. That did the trick. I didn't catch on to the new Control Center method of selective installations. Now that I understand it, I like it.
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Re: Reference manual
2015/02/24 09:42:52
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We still need a PDF ... help is fine for a quick lookup while at the desk. I want a PDF to put into dropbox so I can read from a tablet.
It shouldn't take a month to put out a PDF. Which makes more sense, 100s of us finding and running an online converter, or somebody at Cake doing it once and verifying the result?
BTW - Platinum is running great in Win8.1!! :)
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Re: Reference manual
2015/02/24 10:35:53
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☄ Helpfulby Forestdweller 2015/03/01 04:09:21
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Re: Reference manual
2015/02/24 12:12:23
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We know about CHM to PDF converters. We still want CW to provide a PDF.
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Re: Reference manual
2015/02/24 13:09:23
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John
We know about CHM to PDF converters. We still want CW to provide a PDF.
+1 John
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Re: Reference manual
2015/03/10 14:55:37
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Is there a Sonar Professional Reference Manual PDF yet? If so, where is it located?
Thanks.
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Re: Reference manual
2015/03/10 15:08:58
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Well you're on the right thread......
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Re: Reference manual
2015/03/10 16:32:06
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The Braintree update should have placed it in the same directory where the SONAR executable is located (default is C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\SONAR Platinum)
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Re: Reference manual
2015/03/10 17:53:42
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Is the PDF readable on an iPad? I just entered the dark world of Apple and bought an iPad so, I'm not very familiar with it yet. The thing I noticed about the PDF on my laptop is, it doesn't seem to be searchable. Am I just missing something?
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Re: Reference manual
2015/03/10 18:06:41
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I could be very wrong, but thought I remembered that being one of the big complaints about iPads - that they can't open PDFs.
But Search should work fine in Windows. Ctrl+F to open the Find dialog.
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