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Reinstalling platinum
Somewhere along the line, it seems to have been progressive, but has gotten much worse around the time of switching to win10, SPlt began loading excruciatingly slow...several minutes to load a song that loads in under a minute with any of the X versions... I'm adding SSD's as funds allow and do have one on my c drive. I assume something has gone boinkers with my SPlt and figure it just makes the most sense to reinstall. I'm up to date, running all iterations and am currently on Kingston. I assume I should just use windows uninstall and then reinstall the latest, Kingston from the command center. Is this correct? If there's a preferred approach I'm all ears. Thanks
post edited by Vastman - 2015/12/09 17:47:13
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Re: Reinstalling platinum
2015/12/09 13:25:29
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Correct, but check the "win 10 slow... " thread below by ScottfromCanada. Some of those posts imply gear without Win10 drivers can throw Win10 into a tizzy.
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Re: Reinstalling platinum
2015/12/09 13:33:47
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Vastman
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Re: Reinstalling platinum
2015/12/09 14:14:02
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Re: Reinstalling platinum
2015/12/09 14:21:43
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btw, unlike previous windows, there is no "run" prompt in the windows 10 popup list...ok... im tracking it down... they hide it now
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Re: Reinstalling platinum
2015/12/09 14:25:14
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Try Win+R or search for run
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Re: Reinstalling platinum
2015/12/09 15:21:12
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It's now located under windows system files... So everything went quickly... but after reinstalling, SPlat immediately crashes after it loads up a song (the ole, "A fatal error has occurred. Module: C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Sonar Platinum\Sonarplt.exe". Loads fast... but OY! I've filled out a fault reporter thingy... going to work I guess. might be on X3 for awhile. It all went really quick and seeming to fix the load time... except for the little problem associated with the immediate crash upon seemingly successfully loading songs. One point I made in the fault report is that, using the knowledge base instructions I could not do this part: " -
- Copy and paste %appdata%\Cakewalk into the prompt and click [OK].
On Windows 8 and 7, the “AppData\Roaming\Cakewalk” folder will open. - Right-click on the SONAR <Platinum/Professional/Artist> folder and choose “Delete.”
"
...as the folder didn't open; said it didn't exist or something... so I skipped that part. Will keep muckin' round. Always have X3 till I sort this out. I'll now just try and load an empty song...
post edited by Vastman - 2015/12/09 15:35:05
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Re: Reinstalling platinum
2015/12/09 15:29:42
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OK... no crash if I just load up the ol' basic template and create a new song file...add a synth (diva), record a bit, and play back. Saving and reloading works fine... So, I'll now try and load direct from my songs HD and bypass the start screen...
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Re: Reinstalling platinum
2015/12/09 15:34:40
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Success... fantastic... A 76 track very complex, multi Kontakt song which was taking 5+minutes to load before loaded in 15 seconds or so... just amazing. Plays fine, no crash. so seems to be a problem in the start screen system since I did the total reinstall. I can live with that. The rapid loading is just awesome. Frackin' amazing... Any thoughts on the start screen are appreciated but ultimately I'm glad I reinstalled. update... While having a couple direct from HD songs loaded, I then attempted a start screen load of a song... it did not crash. wierd... several crashes when first using start screen... but once direct HD loads, start screen doesn't crash... ok, another test of start screen from cold start (reboot first) coming up....
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Re: Reinstalling platinum
2015/12/09 15:44:50
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Glad you got it worked out. I did a clean install of Win 10 and have not had any problems. I know it's a pain to reinstall your programs, but after upgrading from Win 7,8 and 8.1, I wanted to clean house and start fresh.
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Re: Reinstalling platinum
2015/12/09 15:45:53
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Keep us posted
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Re: Reinstalling platinum
2015/12/09 15:57:13
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So, cold start from start screen crashes... i just updated things to the bakers on the new fault reporter... but I'm still real happy with the inhanced load times. Just can't use start screen to start... that's a funny one... but oh how I luv the fast load times... it is just blazingly fast with the clean reinstall... Last update (sure...  ) ok... seems to be a conflict between loading a song while it is scanning for plug ins... if I cancel the scan, the start screen loads... never noticed that before
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Re: Reinstalling platinum
2015/12/09 16:05:01
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Vastman So, cold start from start screen crashes... i just updated things to the bakers on the new fault reporter... but I'm still real happy with the inhanced load times. Just can't use start screen to start... that's a funny one... but oh how I luv the fast load times... it is just blazingly fast with the clean reinstall... Last update (sure... ) ok... seems to be a conflict between loading a song while it is scanning for plug ins... if I cancel the scan, the start screen loads... never noticed that before
I'm sure glad I read your post. I am having the exact same problem. Projects now seem to load fine after disabling Start Screen on load. Brian
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Re: Reinstalling platinum
2015/12/09 16:12:30
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Yea, brian... that seems to be what I need to do...although I find it seems to relate to having the plug in blue screen at the lower rt hand of the monitor showing... If I click this off, the start screen doesn't cause a crash. Also, using the start screen after another song is loaded doesn't result in a crash. You might want to fill in the fault reporter so the bakers know it isn't an isolated situation and can come up with a modified clean install proceedure or add a warning to the existing proceedure or something. Here is my last fault report: " continuation of clean install SPlt crashing... OK, I notice that if I cancel the plugin scan, it'll load from "start screen" without crash. It appears that even if the plug in scan screen at right lower part of the monitor is showing, it results in a crash... as when I clicked it off canceling the scan, "start screen" loads worked. This time, I started SPlt and left the blue plug in scan screen up and even though it WASN'T scanning... just being up, saying how many plugins it found, was enough to cause this crash. So, bottom line, I have a new workaround which is fine with me... don't have the little blue plug in screen at bottom right of monitor showing. I'm just explaining this all to you super cool bakers so you have the info if you need it." I want to reitterate... I love the new fast load and am now going to see if adjusting the plug in scanning will eliminate the issue.
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Re: Reinstalling platinum
2015/12/10 01:21:31
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Re: Reinstalling platinum
2015/12/10 12:24:14
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Hey everyone, this seems like it's most likely caused by a corrupted cache. Try deleting the contents of the following directory: C:\Users\<your user>\AppData\Roaming\Cakewalk\SONAR Platinum\StartPageCache (don't delete the actual StartPageCache folder) Then, relaunch SONAR. This should do the trick.
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Re: Reinstalling platinum
2015/12/11 01:23:34
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Joe Connor [Cakewalk] Hey everyone, this seems like it's most likely caused by a corrupted cache. Try deleting the contents of the following directory: C:\Users\<your user>\AppData\Roaming\Cakewalk\SONAR Platinum\StartPageCache (don't delete the actual StartPageCache folder) Then, relaunch SONAR. This should do the trick.
Hi Joe, This worked for me but I had to re-authorize my AD2 and AD Keys programs. Brian
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Re: Reinstalling platinum
2015/12/16 03:40:49
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Well, problem is back again. So, I'm just going to by-pass the Start Screen until there is a fix. To busy to try to track down what is messing up the cache. Brian
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Re: Reinstalling platinum
2015/12/16 04:06:05
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Bypassed the start screen here too for the same reasons, and no problems since. But I didn't read anywhere about simple disk cleanup. I do this everyweek, and it really does speed things up.
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