djwayne
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Rejuvenating oil for old guitars....
I have an old 1975 Martin D-18 that's been laying around the house for years collecting dust, and I tried to polish it up last night, but there was some kind of gunk all over it, it may have been old wax build up, I'm not sure, but my regular guitar polish wasn't working. So I decided to head out to Lowe's to see if they had anything to help clean up the guitar. I found a can of stuff called "Rejuvenating Oil" from Watco, a division of Rust-Oleum. It says it removes old wax and has lemon oil in it that rejuvenates any interior wooden surface. So I decided to try it...I can say it works as advertized and my guitar came out beautiful by just applying a coat, wait 10 minutes then wipe it off. I did this twice to my Martin and it looks great !! It costs about $9.00 dollars a can, but one can should last me for decades. It does a beautiful job and well worth the cost. You can also find this stuff on Amazon.
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Re:Rejuvenating oil for old guitars....
2012/04/22 10:41:03
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Re:Rejuvenating oil for old guitars....
2012/04/22 10:44:20
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djwayne
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Re:Rejuvenating oil for old guitars....
2012/04/22 10:52:32
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Well no you're not supposed to drink it !!!! Thanks for the warnings but it's already been done to my guitar and I like it !!
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Re:Rejuvenating oil for old guitars....
2012/04/22 11:09:47
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:-) The link to the MSDS wasn't meant as a "warning" or a precaution anything like that. It is the only practical source for a reliable list of ingredients for a finishing product. I like to know which "oil" is in my furniture oil. :-) best regards, mike
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Re:Rejuvenating oil for old guitars....
2012/04/22 11:24:22
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djwayne It costs about $9.00 dollars a can, but one can should last me for decades. I couldn't help but think that in decades in may not be as potent. You may need to buy a new can of the stuff to work wonders on the old stuff.
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Re:Rejuvenating oil for old guitars....
2012/04/22 11:29:14
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I got a feeling this can of oil will outlast me.
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Re:Rejuvenating oil for old guitars....
2012/04/22 11:29:56
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Is the expiry December 22, 2012?
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Re:Rejuvenating oil for old guitars....
2012/04/22 11:42:32
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No expiration date. I'll worry about it's potency decades from now, if I'm still around.
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Re:Rejuvenating oil for old guitars....
2012/04/22 14:34:48
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Regular lemon oil is an excellent solvent. I've used it many times to clean really gross guitars. If you have a real mess like sticker residue, naptha works great. Coleman camp fuel is a cheap source and it doesn't react with finishes. It is dangerous, so use with care and observe all the warnings.
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Re:Rejuvenating oil for old guitars....
2012/04/22 14:45:10
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Some people even recommend lighter fluid, but I wouldn't. I'm happy I used this Rejuvenating Oil as my old guitar has been brought back to life with no problems at all and it looks great !!
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Re:Rejuvenating oil for old guitars....
2012/04/22 14:50:55
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What do you guys use for cleaning heavy gunk off of gold plated pickups, bridges, and tuning knobs? I have an old guitar that had that moldy green dirt buildup on a lot of the hardware when I got it and I've been afraid to touch because I don't want to accidentally remove the gold plating.
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Re:Rejuvenating oil for old guitars....
2012/04/22 15:05:30
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Gold plating wears off easily no matter what you do. This is why chrome plated hardware is popular amoungst seasoned pros. I haven't had that problem so I'm not the one to answer it.
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Re:Rejuvenating oil for old guitars....
2012/04/22 18:19:11
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djwayne Gold plating wears off easily no matter what you do. This is why chrome plated hardware is popular amoungst seasoned pros. I haven't had that problem so I'm not the one to answer it. The guitar is 31 years old and none of the plating has worn off yet so I don't buy in to the pro's preferring chrome idea. It boils down to how well the person playing it takes care of it. Got my answer on-line. Thanks.
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Re:Rejuvenating oil for old guitars....
2012/04/22 19:15:23
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Bub What do you guys use for cleaning heavy gunk off of gold plated pickups, bridges, and tuning knobs? I have an old guitar that had that moldy green dirt buildup on a lot of the hardware when I got it and I've been afraid to touch because I don't want to accidentally remove the gold plating. WD-40.
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Re:Rejuvenating oil for old guitars....
2012/04/22 19:29:04
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Bub djwayne Gold plating wears off easily no matter what you do. This is why chrome plated hardware is popular amoungst seasoned pros. I haven't had that problem so I'm not the one to answer it. The guitar is 31 years old and none of the plating has worn off yet so I don't buy in to the pro's preferring chrome idea. It boils down to how well the person playing it takes care of it. Got my answer on-line. Thanks. That's the way it was explained to me, no reason to get rude about it. Care to share what you found out on the web ??
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Re:Rejuvenating oil for old guitars....
2012/04/22 22:28:10
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Best rule of thumb for cleaning is to start with the mildest cleaner and work your way up. Damp cloth to start and work your way up. Don't use anything that is going to leave an oily residue unless you plan on following up with another cleaner.
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Re:Rejuvenating oil for old guitars....
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Re:Rejuvenating oil for old guitars....
2012/04/23 01:13:06
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Bub djwayne Gold plating wears off easily no matter what you do. This is why chrome plated hardware is popular amoungst seasoned pros. I haven't had that problem so I'm not the one to answer it. The guitar is 31 years old and none of the plating has worn off yet so I don't buy in to the pro's preferring chrome idea. It boils down to how well the person playing it takes care of it. Got my answer on-line. Thanks. You must have a good one, Bub. The guitar player in my band in California bought a triple pick-up LP with gold-plated hardware new in 1976. By the time this picture was taken (ca. 1980) a lot of the gold had worn off. But he played it a lot. I mean, every waking moment.
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Re:Rejuvenating oil for old guitars....
2012/04/23 10:32:03
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djwayne Some people even recommend lighter fluid, but I wouldn't. I'm happy I used this Rejuvenating Oil as my old guitar has been brought back to life with no problems at all and it looks great !! For what it's worth... The oil you used is recommended for oil finished wood. Does your Martin have an oil finish? As John mentioned- Naptha....it is lighter fluid and his recommendation is excellent for cleaning unfinished wood and metal plated components. I also support his recommendation of lemon oil and especially so for those that have an oil finished instrument. Purchasing Naptha is much cheaper than paying for lighter fluid. It should go without mention that it can be a dangerous in the wrong hands but... I highly recommend that folks take the time to learn what finish is on their instruments and if you're still uncertain about how to or what product to use on the instruments finish then consult a local luthier or contact the manufacturer. Taking the advice from somebody that may have had success on their instrument with a product not recommended for the particular finish is NOT going to mean it will work on yours and in fact could ruin the finish on your instrument. I personally would have followed Martins advise and cleaned it with a damp warm cloth and then polished it. The fretboard is a completely different issue as are any unfinished parts that may include the bridge. I understand that this conversation has expanded to include electric guitars hardware. I addressed the Martin acoustic only and assumed it had the original finish. I was hesitant to post here as the last time my opinion was met with "the master has spoken"... so I'll add...I only offer my opinion...please consult a "master" if needed as I do not consider myself one.
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Re:Rejuvenating oil for old guitars....
2012/04/23 11:31:15
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No I don't believe the Martin has an oil finish, but I needed something to remove some old wax. This did the trick. I tried the damp cloth routine and it was making a huge mess of the guitar. As some of the gunk came off but in patches if you can imagine that. Everything was just getting smeared around. It really was a big mess. The guitar needed a whole bath !! This is why I decided to seek a more professional wood treatment product. I tried it out on a small area first and it worked beautifully. I did the whole guitar and it came out very nice, so I did a second application and it came out looking great. My Taylor 12 string was next. It too has been sitting around collecting dust and was quite dirty. So I tried the Rejuvenating Oil on that too and it also came out looking great. If you read the instructions on the can, it says that it removes old wax, and that's what I needed. It put a nice shine on the wood as well, so I'm happy with the end results of the product.
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Re:Rejuvenating oil for old guitars....
2012/04/23 12:11:24
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I'm glad it worked for you. Naptha is probably the most common product used for removing wax. Although lighter fluid is naptha it can also have other ingredients. I would not use lighter fluid. If one uses Naptha sufficient time for evaporation should be given. Before using Naptha I would use this. I mainly use Naptha for cleaning wood that I will be glueing together. I feel better knowing that my guitar bodies and necks are joined by glue and nothing else :).
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Re:Rejuvenating oil for old guitars....
2012/04/23 18:59:36
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The best part about using mineral spirits is that you can buy it cheap by the gallon and it leaves a nasty oily mess over everything. Most commercial lemon oil is made up of lemon scent and mineral spirits. Heck most "Ting Oil" is made of mineral spirits too. "Watco" brand Tung Oil is mineral spirits and "maybe" a little bit of tung oil. That's why I recomened actual real life Tung Oil. I imagine if you look real hard you can find real lemon oil too... but I bet it'll burn your fingers off. :-) Anyways, I agree with Spacey 100% every finish has a best cleaning choice... and you can't decide what that choice is unless you know what the finish is. Is it Nitro Celulose? Poly Urethane? Oil? etc. best regards, mike
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Re:Rejuvenating oil for old guitars....
2012/04/23 19:09:23
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Well researching the finish on a 35 year old giutar and contacting a luthier was not on the agenda. All I wanted to do was remove some old wax and clean up the guitar. Mission accomplished.
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Re:Rejuvenating oil for old guitars....
2012/04/23 19:16:14
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A 35 year old Martin is probably finished in Nitro Cellulose. It's a classic!!! best regards, mike
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Re:Rejuvenating oil for old guitars....
2012/04/23 19:42:07
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I like the scunge on my 42 year old Martin. It's all me.
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Re:Rejuvenating oil for old guitars....
2012/04/23 20:05:24
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I love the look of it now...The finish is loaded with hairline cracks all over, but it still somehow looks like a very expensive classical musical instrument. It's got a very nice clean shine to it which I'm really liking alot !!! It had some damage done on the (lower side bout), to it back in the 70's from a pick up jack installation that went bad, but it's fixed now, but probably not worth much. It sounds great and makes for a nice recording guitar, but I think the re-sale value is low because of the repair. Doesn't matter, I have no intentions of selling it, and now that it's all polished up, I'll be playing it a lot more !! This all started because I wanted to learn the chords and play along with Ian Anderson's Thick As A Brick 2 cd. --- "And you ride yourself over the fields, and you make all your animal deals, and the wise men don't know how it feeeeeheels, to be thick, as a brick." This sounds great on my Martin !! LOL
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Re:Rejuvenating oil for old guitars....
2012/04/23 22:31:41
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djwayne Bub djwayne Gold plating wears off easily no matter what you do. This is why chrome plated hardware is popular amoungst seasoned pros. I haven't had that problem so I'm not the one to answer it. The guitar is 31 years old and none of the plating has worn off yet so I don't buy in to the pro's preferring chrome idea. It boils down to how well the person playing it takes care of it. Got my answer on-line. Thanks. That's the way it was explained to me, no reason to get rude about it. Care to share what you found out on the web ?? I wasn't being rude. The most common way I could find to clean the green cruddy buildup was to take the pickup cover off and soak it in very hot soapy water. I know there's some people here who are well versed on the subject, so I asked hoping to get some old timers secrets for cleaning crud and causing the least amount of damage. Thanks.
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Re:Rejuvenating oil for old guitars....
2012/04/23 22:42:09
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I like this advice the best of all... "Best rule of thumb for cleaning is to start with the mildest cleaner and work your way up. Damp cloth to start and work your way up." That's what I did and the damp cloth didn't work for me, as there was too much gunk on the guitar. It was making a huge ugly mess. I had to go with something stronger.
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