Removing drawback from the past but still present in currents - lack of project conversion

Hello,
 
It is hard to believe but still in Sonar there is no ability to convert project data rate. It is a really a pain when have lost projects in data rate not available in owned sound card.
 
And getting this annoying message "unable to open playback device".
 
For instance having many projects in 44.1 and sound card which support only data rates above 48 make crazy if one would like to use his own projects from the past.
 
Moreover even deleting all audio tracks with not matched data rate doesn't help. It still refuses to play!
Really? No audio tracks at all and still refusing to play project because of not matching data rate??
 
How it should be done: when loading project with data rate not available on current sound card, it should just reconvert properly audio tracks after a question if we want it. And that's all.
Or even less modern approach and little coarse one would be acceptable: option in menu to do it.
 
It is not racket science.
 
I really hope you you will be fix it soon.
Regards,
Piotr
 

SONAR determines an existing project's sample rate by inspecting the audio in the project. Here is a sample rate conversion method which might work for you http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/2934357
 

Piotr
but then one must reinsert them all again in project in exact destined places...
There could be for instance 100 audios files in different places of project, not really regular starting at beginning of a bar...
It is great pain and big waste of time :(

 
Check out multiple clip export and broadcast wav:
http://static.cakewalk.com/cakewalk/products/sonar/release_notes/Welcome_to_the_SONAR_Ipswich_Update.pdf
 
:)

Piotr
About my sound card, well, I am pretty sure, and Sonar as well - it shows me the ugly message that cannot play  :(
I have many projects both in 44.1 and in 48 on 2 different locations and 2 different machines and moving them to use from one to the other is always totally pain  :(
 
Of course, I and people with similar problem (when sharing with others in different data rates) could invest in different hardware to have the all data rates compatible but really is it a way? :(

What is your hardware? Are you sure about this?
That is insane. Stick to the same rate. Either 44.1 or 48 for both cards. If (strangely) one is only capable of 44.1 then make sure the other is on 44.1. Or 48 on both. If you can't do either time to get some new hardware, that is madness...

Mass export is great function and it can convert all files to other data rates (how ironic :(  but reinserting is manually pain job :(
Or maybe because it is new in Ipswitch it is a half way to implement reconverting projects?
 
For instance Sonar demo project "Where Did We Go Demo" has 160+ audio clips. If one would like to check every clip what audio file is related to and then replace them -  it will take hours :(
 
I have Sound Blaster Platinum EX. On ASIO it is not able to perform 44.1. It is PCI hardware with external I/O panel. It fits very well to my connections in my home. I have no dedicated home studio, but more universal well maintained with dual boot OS and virtuals machines not to thrash OS used for 'higher' purpose :)
 

 
Probably you think who cares about just a few dinosaurs irrationally attached to their hardware?
 
But isn't the same case if you have project in any data rate which is not available  on hardware where you go to use it?
 
Regards,
Piotr

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Piotr
BTW it could be nice if Sonar could provide user defined custom map for such cases. For instance I don't have grand piano of VI Labs but have True Piano and it could be nice if there would be a way to say Sonar that every project it sees VI Labs Grand it automatically replaces with True Piano etc...

The only way you could do this is start a standard for presets.
Then write to every single plugin manufacturer begging them to keep to your standard.
Ain't gonna happen :)

Well, I thought about something simpler :-)
What you considered - of course I understand is impossible to implement :-)
 
I meant only replacing VST instrument without taking in considerations its setup which differs from plugin to plugin.
It is what you need when load project with many not owned plugins. you must manually replace each of them with ones which you have. Maybe there is an advanced in CAL Sonar user who even has written something like this? :-)

Regards,
Piotr

FWIW, posts have been made about SoundBlaster's "ASIO" drivers not being ASIO. Unless you have a program requiring ASIO (some software must have an ASIO driver stand-alone), you may be much better off using WDM mode.
 
Another thing is to check Windows Sound settings for your sound card (both recording and playback), right click the SB and check "properties" On the advanced tab be sure both "exclusive" modes are not checked. When in ASIO mode, only one program can access the drivers, and if that is your system playback device, it is actually Windows locking it (or your browser, etc.). Whatever grabs it first "wins" basically, and SONAR cannot override Windows settings.

Thank you, All, for your advices.
 
Unfortunately, provided drivers for my card works best in ASIO and switching to any other mode brings some problems or unacceptable latency.
 
 
To be fair to card it was much better for XP (but still best in ASIO) with great provided mixer to control its I/O but after migrating to Win 7 drivers are not quite as expected and mixer is gone. Another thing, new approach for audio in 7 is a really trash. User hostile concept.
 
You encourage me for replacing my hardware and probably you're right. However,  it is quite hard decision for me because I like very much external IO panel of the card and it has its also role in home entertainment and fits great in that. I am also not fan of instant recabling to use something as secondary audio connected on demand. Things are also little bit complicated because I am constantly moving between 2 cities where have different hardware but always taking with myself portable audio interface is not an option for me. Small luggage is my friend.
Well, I have things to consider...
 
In fact I have old but quite good audio interface with firewire port (ironically I have no firewire  in my home computer but IO panel of audigy2 has one for connecting firewire devices) but it is rare used because of need to disassembly and reassembly. It needs 12W power supply I have concern if I connect it only by bus it wouldn't damage  firewire in IO panel when getting too much power. But I don't want to make you bored. My English is poor and it is hard to explain all aspects.
 
But thank you again for your advices. I feel obligated to rethink all connection concept in my home and my secondary place to avoid compatibility problems when moving projects.
 
Well, don't take me pls like hopeless stuborn guy but regardless of possible reconfigure what I have or replacing card I still believe Sonar should have functionality to reconvert flawlessly when needed projects with different data rates. Different things happen and it is too optimistic assume that always destination hardware will have every data rate as source. It is not big deal, I think, to implement it to remove some potential hardware incompatibility.
 
Regards,
Piotr
 

Vast majority of people use switchable 48/44.1 nowadays. I've been in these forums since X1 launch (not long compared to many) and first time I've heard of such an onslaught..