Uncle John
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Removing noise from vinyl records
does anyone know how to remove the pops and clicks resulting from scratches on vinyl records using Sonar X2 Producer?
post edited by Uncle John - 2013/12/04 16:39:18
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Re: Removing noise from vinyl records
2013/12/04 14:54:18
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There isn't anything dedicated really. I'm assuming you don't have access to Izotope RX2/3 or the Waves or Sonnox audio restoration suite?
Probably your best bet is kicking a multiband compressor like the Sonitus in and out of action at the right points. You'll have to juggle the bands to get the best effect (maximum pop reduction with as little negative effect on timbre as possible).
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Re: Removing noise from vinyl records
2013/12/04 14:57:14
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If you have X2 then R-Mix is likely the best candidate. However there are better tools on the market for this type of thing like Izotope RX... unfortunately it's pretty expensive BUT if you only need to do a couple albums they have a free trial you could use. I think it's 10 days unlocked.
Otherwise I don't think there is an easy fix all plug within Sonar. That was one nice thing about X2... the inclusion of R-Mix and it was the only version that had it (stripped out in X3 because of the Gibson takeover).
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Re: Removing noise from vinyl records
2013/12/04 15:03:27
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There is of course the manual method of zooming waaaay in and removing any needle pops by slicing them out or just turning them down with automation. The remove any overall hiss with the linear phase EQ plug. You could even go real crazy with audiosnap and dragging out anywhere you've sliced so there is an overlap and creating crossfades but that is a LOT of work.
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Re: Removing noise from vinyl records
2013/12/04 15:12:30
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Several years ago on a previous PC, I used the Nero suite, which included a noise reduction application which worked fairly well (but not as well as RX; the Nero application could more easily generate artifacts). However, the Nero suite was relatively inexpensive. I do not know whether the current version of Nero includes this capability.
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Re: Removing noise from vinyl records
2013/12/04 15:12:32
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A few years ago I started converting some old vinyl to .wavs. Luckily there were only a few that I really wanted to convert as it was bloody hard work. I tried 2 or 3 different programs and the best I found was the pro version of http://www.nch.com.au/wavepad/ As I said, it's hard work but I got pretty good results out of this. Good luck!
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Re: Removing noise from vinyl records
2013/12/04 15:15:20
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Sorry wrong thread. Not sure how I got here. Forum Dementia...
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Re: Removing noise from vinyl records
2013/12/04 15:23:22
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mcdonalk
Several years ago on a previous PC, I used the Nero suite, which included a noise reduction application which worked fairly well (but not as well as RX; the Nero application could more easily generate artifacts). However, the Nero suite was relatively inexpensive. I do not know whether the current version of Nero includes this capability.
Good point. I just upgraded to the latest Nero 2014 Platinum the other day and there are some extra tools you can downoad. One is Nero WaveEditor which looks like a basic audio editing program, similar to Audacity but I've just gone in and had another look and I'm now installing something called Nero SoundTrax which according to the info lets you 'digitize vinyl or tape recording'. I gotta head off to work right now but I can have a look later to see what's involved if you like.
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Re: Removing noise from vinyl records
2013/12/04 15:28:26
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Somehow I always seem to end up with a resonance on RMix's cutoff points, making it useless for most purposes.
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Re: Removing noise from vinyl records
2013/12/04 15:32:31
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The noise is actually one of my favorite parts of vinyl!!! The tools for noise removal on both sound forge and Adobe audition do a decent job. Perhaps try a trial of either of those and see which yields best response. I have been leaning more towards audition lately for noise removal. Izotope RX is amazing but out of my price range.
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Re: Removing noise from vinyl records
2013/12/04 15:33:57
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In case you see the light and realize the beauty of vinyl noise, Izotope offers a free plugin called vinyl that actually adds vinyl noise!
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Re: Removing noise from vinyl records
2013/12/04 15:37:20
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MAGIX do a few things, can't justify radius etc. for doing it..
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Re: Removing noise from vinyl records
2013/12/04 15:44:08
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There's a pretty good decrackle tool bundled in sound forge, isn't there? Not much help if you don't have it, I know, but far cheaper than Izotope RX. That said, RX has the absolute state of the art in both this and a whole bunch of other stuff. It's bloody expensive, but it's worth every penny if you do a lot of work with less than perfect source recordings.
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Re: Removing noise from vinyl records
2013/12/04 15:45:28
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dubdisciple
In case you see the light and realize the beauty of vinyl noise, Izotope offers a free plugin called vinyl that actually adds vinyl noise!
Fantastic that thing is. I've been doing some work on a radio play, and they wanted an effect as if a voice was playing on a wax cylinder. Setting the "Year" knob to 1930 on Vinyl pretty much nailed it.
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Re: Removing noise from vinyl records
2013/12/04 19:07:24
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I use it to make loops I created myself sound more vintage.
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Re: Removing noise from vinyl records
2013/12/04 20:49:21
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For what it's worth........The SONY Noise Reduction software that comes with SoundForge has worked fairly well for me. I've never had complete success at noise elimination, but have had noticeably improved results.
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Re: Removing noise from vinyl records
2013/12/04 22:18:30
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The OP asked about X2, but since a bunch of other packages have been mentioned, I'll suggest Audacity. Never used it myself, but a friend says it worked well for him for this purpose. Can't beat the price. -Ron
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Re: Removing noise from vinyl records
2013/12/04 23:44:25
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You may find this video useful.
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Re: Removing noise from vinyl records
2013/12/04 23:46:59
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Uncle John,
As others have stated, I don't believe there are any tools in Sonar that will accomplish what you want with any success.
I have Izotope RX2 and RX3 and have used them to clean up many vinyl recordings as well as poor, noisy recordings from other sources including tape and audio from an older video recording. Excellent results, though it does take time and patience to get it right. PM me if you want to know more.
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Re: Removing noise from vinyl records
2013/12/05 10:29:21
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A while ago, I was looking for a tool for cleaning audio files. I got a lot of advices from here, tested a lot of tools, including R-Mix, but I end up purchasing iZotope RX3 - it's incredible!! You can get the basic version at plugindiscounts.com for US$230. The price is a bit salty but it's really good for the job.
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Re: Removing noise from vinyl records
2013/12/05 10:39:37
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Sony noise reduction. It works well. Doesn't remove all the noise, but knocks it down w/o knocking the sound out of your sound.
YOu could also try Cedar, if you have a couple of grand.
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Re: Removing noise from vinyl records
2013/12/05 13:46:07
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RX3 also uses Cedar Technology.
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Re: Removing noise from vinyl records
2013/12/05 14:11:06
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dubdisciple
The noise is actually one of my favorite parts of vinyl!!!
Yes agreed, but it has to be 64 bit precision crackle....
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Re: Removing noise from vinyl records
2013/12/05 18:17:52
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I've gotten pretty good results with BIAS' Sound Soap. BIAS went belly-up a few years ago, but Sound Soap is back. It's available from a company called Soundness. It looks like it's just Mac for the moment. They expect to release a Windows version very soon. Here's the link: http://www.soundness-llc.com/
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Re: Removing noise from vinyl records
2014/03/24 14:55:56
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Well, shoot! I forgot to subscribe to this post and just thought no one responded :P
Thanks for all the great input. I will try some of those trial versions of RX, etc., but for the money I think I can probably learn to love the pop, crackle and hiss... for now anyway. Thanks again!
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