Renaming ProChannels - Organising ProChannel Workaround (Thanks ZO)

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Renaming ProChannels - Organising ProChannel Workaround (Thanks ZO)

I just found the Video from Zo, and it can help with organising the ProChannels in the drop down box.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EBzPSx8150
 
By adding 1) to the full names of al the VKFX, for example '1) VKFX Phaser' and '1) VKFX Delay', they now appear at the the list and not clutter the bottom as the do now.
 
Thinking this through I may rename all the PCs, and number in a way that makes sense to me.
 
1) Delay and Modulation FX
2) Reverb
3) Distortion, Saturation and Amps
4) Compressors
5) Equalisers
1) Delay and Modulation FX2) Reverb3) Distortion, Saturation and Amps4) Compressors5) Equalisers

 
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    Re: Renaming ProChannels - Organising ProChannel Workaround (Thanks ZO) 2015/06/01 02:15:04 (permalink)


     
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    Re: Renaming ProChannels - Organising ProChannel Workaround (Thanks ZO) 2015/06/01 02:25:47 (permalink)
    I think if you re-scan VSTs the registry Inventory might get reset, so you should export the registry key and save the renamed stuff as a backup.
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    Re: Renaming ProChannels - Organising ProChannel Workaround (Thanks ZO) 2015/06/01 02:41:10 (permalink)
    Ah too late. BTW, this isn't renaming the files, but the display name from within the files, so I don't see an issue.
     
    Just went through and set up with FX at the bottom, as displs from the top down (I think it used to display from the bottom up)

    1) Reverb
    2) Distortion, Saturation and Amps
    3) Compressors
    4) Equalisers
    5) Delay and Modulation FX
     


     
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    Re: Renaming ProChannels - Organising ProChannel Workaround (Thanks ZO) 2015/06/01 03:09:35 (permalink)
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    Ah too late. BTW, this isn't renaming the files, but the display name from within the files, so I don't see an issue.
     

     
    There is no issue. I was just saying that all those REGEDITS will get lost and re-generated when you do a VST scan.
    Or, maybe, just when you do a VST RESET.
    But in any case, I would export the Inventory key from the registry and save the .reg file somewhere.
    You can edit the .reg file with notepad and just save the parts that you changed, not the whole key. In other words, delete most of the stuff, just keep the name parts.
     

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    Re: Renaming ProChannels - Organising ProChannel Workaround (Thanks ZO) 2015/06/01 03:11:14 (permalink)
    Thanks for posting this :)
    Anyone know how to bring the FX Chain to the top of list? Can't see it in the Reg. list anywhere and mine is at bottom and PC list which is off my screen. 
     
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    Re: Renaming ProChannels - Organising ProChannel Workaround (Thanks ZO) 2015/06/01 03:17:25 (permalink)
    Unaffected by re-scans here

     
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    Re: Renaming ProChannels - Organising ProChannel Workaround (Thanks ZO) 2015/06/01 03:18:31 (permalink)
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    Thanks for posting this :)
    Anyone know how to bring the FX Chain to the top of list? Can't see it in the Reg. list anywhere and mine is at bottom and PC list which is off my screen. 
     
    Thanks
     




    It's probably a built-in function in Sonar, not actually a plug-in or VST, so it's probably fixed in last place.
     
    My list is pretty long and I need to scroll to get it, so it would be nice to have a way to resize the list, like the way VST plug-in are listed.

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    Re: Renaming ProChannels - Organising ProChannel Workaround (Thanks ZO) 2015/06/01 03:19:16 (permalink)
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    Unaffected by re-scans here




    OK, just resets, then.

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    Re: Renaming ProChannels - Organising ProChannel Workaround (Thanks ZO) 2015/06/01 03:22:31 (permalink)
    Thanks arachnaut, though as much.

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    Re: Renaming ProChannels - Organising ProChannel Workaround (Thanks ZO) 2015/06/01 03:23:25 (permalink)
    The reason I would save the edited parts only (the name changes, not the other VST-like data) is so that when you do a RESET, you can merge those changes in the registry without changing any important re-scanned info.
     
    For example, in an update to Sonar, a Prochannel parameter may change, so you need to reset them.
    You won't want to merge the entire Inventory registry data - that would re-write old data over the changes, but you would like to change the descriptive names again.
     

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    Re: Renaming ProChannels - Organising ProChannel Workaround (Thanks ZO) 2015/06/01 03:28:23 (permalink)
    yeah it always sat at the bottom, so wasn't effected by Numerical Alpha order, so renaming it would achieve anything.
     
    I'm much happier with this new layout.

     
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    Re: Renaming ProChannels - Organising ProChannel Workaround (Thanks ZO) 2015/06/01 04:18:59 (permalink)
    All OK. Got the video up.
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    Re: Renaming ProChannels - Organising ProChannel Workaround (Thanks ZO) 2015/06/01 04:22:47 (permalink)
    Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cakewalk Music Software\SONAR\Cakewalk VST X64\Inventory

     
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    Re: Renaming ProChannels - Organising ProChannel Workaround (Thanks ZO) 2015/06/01 04:24:23 (permalink)
    Watch out though as the plugs can be listed more than once, so you can be changing the name for the wrong one. I had Sonar open, so I could check the changes as I went along.

     
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    Re: Renaming ProChannels - Organising ProChannel Workaround (Thanks ZO) 2015/06/01 04:46:54 (permalink)
    Just realised I couldn't see the VKFX rotary type FX which I found was the 'PreAmp Stereo Tremelo', but the Prochannel is just called 'PreAmp'. Good to rename that as Tremelo, as it would be it's main use for me. Dropped all the VKFX from the names too, as the gold makes that clear enough

     
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    Re: Renaming ProChannels - Organising ProChannel Workaround (Thanks ZO) 2015/06/01 04:59:34 (permalink)
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    Watch out though as the plugs can be listed more than once, so you can be changing the name for the wrong one. I had Sonar open, so I could check the changes as I went along.




    I noticed that. For example Saturation Knob appears twice, one in the Internal folder and one in Internal/Softube.
    Both are identical so I deleted the older file and the registry entry.
    It looks like, perhaps, an update put things in the wrong place.
     

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    Re: Renaming ProChannels - Organising ProChannel Workaround (Thanks ZO) 2015/06/01 05:06:07 (permalink)
    Yeah it's weird because I've only installed the VKFX recently and once, but they were there twice. The ones that seemed to be in the Prochannel weren't the ones next to the other types that were in the Prochannel. It's a little over the place. I kept everything though because I don't know enough.

     
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    Re: Renaming ProChannels - Organising ProChannel Workaround (Thanks ZO) 2015/06/01 05:17:32 (permalink)
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    Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cakewalk Music Software\SONAR\Cakewalk VST X64\Inventory


    Thanks. I had gone back and managed to get the video large enough to see the key in question. I remember back when Zo did that video.

    This work around isn't really much help as I have 28 plugins in the list. On a 24" monitor @ 1920x1080 resolution I can see 20 PC plugs vertically. That excludes all of the VKFX.

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    Re: Renaming ProChannels - Organising ProChannel Workaround (Thanks ZO) 2015/06/01 05:24:48 (permalink)
    I'm on the same res, I set it up so the some of VKFX and the Panipulator were at the bottom, so off my screen. At least this is more intuitive, so when I do want those, I know exactly where to look. Makes me more aware of the options too. It's not ideal but a step in the right direction.

     
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    Re: Renaming ProChannels - Organising ProChannel Workaround (Thanks ZO) 2015/06/01 21:01:15 (permalink)
    Great dude ...i didn't thought about organising the prochanell since i don't use them .... but i will certainly when migrating at all on platnum .....
     
    my softube don't show a picture so i will put them at the end
     
    The regestry stuff is messed up when full reset or rescan (i it did when going from X1 to X3 or platnum) ....
    Note that those that want to rename plugin can do it also via the plugin manager by double clicking the plugin name IN the plugin list (not in the layout they create) , it's the same  , but  take longer sometime if you have a big list of plugin since then manager will upadte itself after each "enter" 
     
    Nice one dude !!
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