Reording Problems

Chris - what sound card are you using? if you're using your computer's on board sound card, change your driver mode to MME (there seems to be a rash of this lately!).

OPTIONS>AUDIO>ADVANCED>DRIVER MODE = MME
close MC
restart MC
run the wave profiler

try again and let us know if that helps.

Just to be sure...not calling you ignert or anything....but are you absolutely certain you have the MIDI I/O connectors in the correct I/O ports on the keyboard?

Next thing I might try would be to try ASIO4ALL

download: http://www.asio4all.com
install it
then change your driver mode to ASIO
OPTIONS>AUDIO>ADVANCED>DRIVER MODE = ASIO
you'll need to restart MC, but you won't have to run the wave profiler this time.

try again and see what happens.

Hi Beagle + Greg

1. The ASIO did not work either.
2. The MIDI leads were connected correctly.
3. The keyboard Local On and off were both tried. Same problem in either mode.

I have tried restarting the keyboard and computer after changing all settings in both. Same problem.

It seems to only occur when transmitting. The playback plays all the notes perfectly, including the "thumping" ones, and the "extras."

When I view in the Piano Roll, the "thumping" notes all seem to appear at C "0." When I try and play into MC3 the first one or two notes play fine. I can hear them. Then the new notes I play are added to by the thumping ones, no matter where I play up the scales, the actual notes change but the "thumping" ones do not.

I do not believe it is my soundcard as the input is through my MIDI interface which is a USB directly into the computer.

Summary...
1. Keyboard will record onto floppy and MC3 will read via computer (floppy drive) and play back the file through interface with no problems.
2. Loading a tutorial file from MC3 - no problem with playbacks, editing etc...
3. Recording directly into MC3 via interface results in problem. Playback is perfectly identical to what is heard when playing in - including the thumping sound. Everything points to wards the keyboard transmission, but I cannot identify the foundationional issue. I wonder if there would be some strange kind of echoing? any ideas, please.

Thanks guys, I appreciate you help. There is a solution somewhere

Have not purchased new cables - limited budget. Perhaps when I can, that may solve the issue. However, I remember that I have had a similar problem with the old Cakewalk Program (years ago now,) and at that time I had, if I remember correctly, a similar problem. The cables I used at that time were directly into the joystick port. It put me off the whole thing. My friend (at the time) set up a whole studio arrangement and he started out with a Yamaha keyboard. Think he purchased a workstation after a while, but he did have success with the Yamaha. Strange, huh?

You may be right Beagle. It could be the interface, could be the keyboard. What is disappointing is the fact that MC3 virtually promises ease of use, simple, etc, etc. and then these issue arise. It is disappointing and confidence in the product has waivered. Neverthe less, I will not give up. Paise the Lord.

Sounds like I am going to have to try a new (Yamaha) cable. I will post the results as and when.

With regard to Gregs suggestion.... When I tried to record, I followed the manuals instructions to the letter. I only used 1 instrument, and that was the piano from the keyboard. I did not set up the patch in MC prior to trying to record. The manual doesn't tell you to, either.

What I did was to go into the program, selected "new" then selected "midi only" (on the first attempt) and "16-channel midi" on the second attempt. I then "armed" just the first track, and started recording. Then, I got the results I spoke about above.

I have not tried recording on the Yamaha, and then "sending" it to MC. I will do so and report back on the results. As you probably know, Greg, the Yamaha DGX500 allows you to save a file in it's own format, and MIDI. I am going to try it both ways and see what happens. From what you guys are telling me, my "problems" seem to be unique -ish. I really appreciate all who are trying to help. Thank you.

And if you save it as a "song" on the Yamaha, I doubt that it will transmit the MIDI when you play back the recorded song. My Yamaha owner's manual states that there is no MIDI output when playing a song that has been saved to its memory - and I have verified that there is no MIDI output.

Further update. I decided to go back through the whole interface situation. I removed all Hardware and software profiles and programs. I checked that they were not availale through MC to confirm. All good. Then I went to M-Audio's website and checked up on the Midisport-Uno (the interface) it specifically tells you not to load the software when using XP. However, if you put the software CD in, it tries to install regardless. Unless you read the help file, you would not know. I am at fault here to a degree. Did not read the instructions!

Once I had let Windows do it's own recognizing of the inerface, some things changed. I tried recording again and this time had more success. The "thumping noise" - the bass line notes, did not appear anymore. However, I still had other notes showing in Piano Roll that I had not played, and all the notes were shown as just long blocks with hardly any visible breaks. On playback the notes played in some places, and not in others. I got frustrated enough to call M-Audio - their website is not very helpful - and a "tech" told me that the "Midisport - Uno" is not compatible with Yamaha as Yamaha keyboards, etc, tend to constantly send info out. This is what causes the double and "elongated notes." The tech' suggested that I use a different product called the midisport 1X1 as this did not have the same problems with the Yamaha products. I do not feel happy about this and am returning the Uno unit and will try to source a Yamaha interface. I am told that the UX16 is the one to get.

I spoke to Yamaha Tech. Support too, eventually, and they confirmed the "constant send" operation of most products of this nature - with an interface which does not understand "Yamaha - ese" it is highly likely to result in double notations or more.

Sorry if this is long but, being a Brit' (over here) please understand that we will use 10 words where 1 would suffice!

Everything is pointing to the interface, which is what Beagle and a couple of others have suggested almost from the outset of my problems. The confusing thing has been just how highly all the guys who use it talk about MC and I could not understand why my version was not complying with my desires of it. Now, it seems that the software is not the problem. Getting the Yamaha interface will (God willing) overcome this.

Thanks, everyone, for the guidance to date. As things progress, I will update you all.