didymus7
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[Resolved] Melodyne and Audio to Midi Conversion
I have two problems with Melodyne. First, every time I open it (in Sonar X3 Producer), I get a window asking me to activate my 30 day trial. I don't think that's right... Otherwise, audio to midi conversion for me, doesn't work. The output consists of one note continuously repeated. Tried a couple of different wavs, mp3s and it's pretty much the same. Tried drag and drop to midi track, tried converting from Melodyne editor, same result. The original source file was only dulcimer, so it wasn't a complicated conversion. Am I missing something here or do I have a problem. Well, relatively....;-) Thanks....Steve
post edited by Anderton - 2014/03/30 11:58:10
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Re: Melodyne and Audio to Midi Conversion
2014/03/29 19:00:02
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Try launching Sonar as Administrator if you aren't. This used to be necessary to register one of the old synths. I don't know if it's necessary to get your install of Melodyne correct. I always launch as admin, so i wouldn't experience the problem if it was so related. It works for me to drag a Melodyne converted audio track to a midi track. The conversion works correctly.
StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen. I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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didymus7
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Re: Melodyne and Audio to Midi Conversion
2014/03/29 19:15:38
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I'm on Win7 64bit and am part of the 'administrator' group. Of course there is a difference between being an administrator in Win7 and being the administrator. So I did try 'run as administrator'. No difference in either problem. I'd like to find out what's wrong rather than have to uninstall and reinstall X3. Thanks...Steve
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Re: Melodyne and Audio to Midi Conversion
2014/03/29 19:19:21
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That's what I've been working on this afternoon. I'm getting the same thing. There should be a spot to uncheck to stop the pop up. I recorded a one bar phrase. Then to region FX. It converted the file. Now I'm opening Rapture. Press Ctrl and left click on the file and copy to Rapture. Hmmm. It worked that time. Earlier it was just a single note straight across. I'm not sure why it worked that time
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Re: Melodyne and Audio to Midi Conversion
2014/03/29 19:29:41
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I can't do chords or more than one note at a time. When I let one sound ring into another I get the single read. So that's what the problem was. This is really nice. If you mute the audio then cycle thru all the sounds in whichever soft synth you use. I like this!
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bayoubill
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Re: Melodyne and Audio to Midi Conversion
2014/03/29 19:35:55
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Wow this is something! I went into appreciator and created a bunch of patterns then cycle thru a couple of soft synths. I also replayed the audio line in harmony now I have a duet. Very cool!
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scook
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Re: Melodyne and Audio to Midi Conversion
2014/03/29 19:44:19
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Re: Melodyne and Audio to Midi Conversion
2014/03/29 19:46:54
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didymus7 I have two problems with Melodyne. First, every time I open it (in Sonar X3 Producer), I get a window asking me to activate my 30 day trial. I don't think that's right...
The Help > About on the Melodyne menu should show a serial number if the application has been registered. A registered version does not display the trial popup message.
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bayoubill
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Re: Melodyne and Audio to Midi Conversion
2014/03/29 19:50:41
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Thanks scook! SOLVED! This opens some interesting possibilities. I just recorded a line then found/converted it into a bass line. I checked the price on editor version and almost fell out of my chair
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Re: Melodyne and Audio to Midi Conversion
2014/03/29 19:51:30
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Did you go and register melodyne it is a separate registration than Sonar. It is also called single track, in other words it only works with a single melody or bass line. Any harmonics or overtones will throw it off. You can upgrade $$$ if you want the full version that can handle ( I wonder) full chords. There is a limitation to what software can do. Audio to midi conversion works with single drum parts and very simple sounds like a flute. A dulcimer would blow it's mind.
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Re: Melodyne and Audio to Midi Conversion
2014/03/29 19:52:32
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This should take care of it didymus7.
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didymus7
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Re: Melodyne and Audio to Midi Conversion
2014/03/29 19:53:20
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Okay, got everything solved! First and Primary was that I hadn't entered my registration key. That revealed a lot of extra options. Melodyne was stuck in the percussive algorithm, which is why I was getting only one note. Of course, switching to melodic at least give me some different notes, but really bad. I'm assuming, since there is a melody line and a bass line, that I need to use polyphonic, which is currently grayed out. This may be why we're getting melodyne for free!
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Re: Melodyne and Audio to Midi Conversion
2014/03/29 19:58:25
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Cactus Music It is also called single track, in other words works with a single melody or bass line. Any harmonics or overtones will throw it off. Audio to midi conversion works with drums and very simple parts, like a flute. A dulcimer would blow it's mind. Any software, not just Melodyne.
The product is identified as Melodyne Singletrack to distinguish it from Melodyne Studio. It works on a single audio track at a time. Melodyne Singletrack has three levels, Essential, Assistant and Editor. It is the same executable, the license key enables the features associated with the level. SONAR ships with the Essential version. The Editor version is capable of working with polyphonic audio as explained in the link I proved above.
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Re: Melodyne and Audio to Midi Conversion
2014/03/29 20:00:14
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didymus7 Okay, got everything solved! First and Primary was that I hadn't entered my registration key. That revealed a lot of extra options. Melodyne was stuck in the percussive algorithm, which is why I was getting only one note. Of course, switching to melodic at least give me some different notes, but really bad. I'm assuming, since there is a melody line and a bass line, that I need to use polyphonic, which is currently grayed out. This may be why we're getting melodyne for free!
The third algorithm is included in Melodyne Editor. Glad you got Melodyne Essential registered.
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didymus7
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Re: Melodyne and Audio to Midi Conversion
2014/03/29 20:40:22
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Cactus, Thanks for all the help. At least things are now working the way they're supposed to. I wonder how the polyphonic algorithm would handle a melody with a bassline. If it could, it might be worth the upgrade. However, since I've had some time playing with intelliscore, you're correct, there's a limit to what software can do. Thanks...Steve
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Re: Melodyne and Audio to Midi Conversion
2014/03/29 20:45:21
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didymus7
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Re: Melodyne and Audio to Midi Conversion
2014/03/29 21:17:50
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Thanks, scook, I'll check out the videos.
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