[Resolved] ONE MORE Feature Better Left Alone

Press I > Adjust Pitch +/- on the right hand strip.
 
How is that hard? I don't think I've even seen the method you are referring to. Sounds more complicated than what I just described.
 
 

Its also available in the Inspector view! One click up or down...

I completely relate and sympathize with you, King Conga.  It is so frustrating when you use your usual, well learned workflow only to find it no longer works.  Then search the convoluted help with a key word which does not match until you poke around enough only to find you now have to change your efficient and effective methods.  Seems each new X version holds a new set (or subset) of methods and/or key controls/commands.  Having to relearn your DAW does make for an uneasy transition for what should be a better more effective platform.  Add new bugs to that and seems like having the next thing is not so much better.  It's a setback in the effort of efficiency and capability.  Would be nice if the Bakers did include some conversion chart or the like (maybe an easy cheat sheet) to assist us with the change. 
 
I know the Bakers work hard to put out a great product within a fixed time line.  With such major change or implementation such as ARA and VST3, I would prefer that the Bakers take more time to iron things out and check new methods against the already established commands prior to a release or fix.  As now, the Bakers are pushing out fixes this time around which may be more effective if more time where given to test and perfect prior to release.  Changes should be given more consideration at implementation rather than working out the bugs after the fact.  This would help user with the transition.  It can get confusing between what is a bug and what is just a new method.  Particularly when a change to a method is not made known to the user.  These changes are not made know in the manual or help as "new vs old" comparison.  And the method sometimes takes on a new name because of a new feature or the like.  I guess the 'bottom line' is the ultimate decider in most cases.  Hard to hold the Bakers at fault.  I am sure they would like to get it right first as we would.  Making it (the transition) easier for us would be a big plus, nonetheless.
 
Kind regards,
 
Living Room Rocker

This is why I have the track inspector docked to the left or right at all times. It's just so handy. Having said that I have 2 screens so space isn't that much of an issue (although I would love a 3rd screen ). Hitting "I" to bring it up isn't that much of a big deal once it's burned into your muscle memory. Having said that, I used to find that I would have to press "I" twice to bring it up...which was annoying. Never worked that one out. 

Oh yeah, I know all about wrangling with the track pane thing to get at stuff which is why it's nice there are multiple ways to get at stuff (I hardly access the track panes aside from MSR controls and sometimes the FX bin).
 
What I propose... and I'm sure this has been brought up before, is make the "Custom" option truly customizable. Like you have the list of available parameters and as you add them they show up in order of how you chose them so that way you could have your pitch above your pan or whatever. I'd say make them drag moveable directly on the panes but that would be a little too much fancy coding for little payoff.

I have two monitor also. But with screen sets, Inspector, Browser, and the associated hot keys, I have Sonar stretched across both screens and just use the hot keys to navigate around.

It took a while to get use to, but once I have it is a much better workflow. Hard to explain why it's better, but for me it is.

King Conga
So why can't I get to my MIDI FX.  I see the stinking things, and I have the region highlighted.  AGAIN! Where's the LOGIC? Can't get my work done!

Okay... you're freaking out again. What are you trying to do?

We'll, if you re just changing from ver 8.5 - then there *is* a little bit of a learning curve to get used to the "X" interface. We've al done it though - and once you do, it is actually "better" (but it's really annoying while you're trying to figure out where everything has moved to).

Like the guys say - this forum is the place to come to. We've all been through this.... ;-)

BTW one quick and easy way to see the data on every note you touch is to put the Event Inspector module in the Control Bar. It will give you all the data you need as soon as you click on a note. No need for double clicking or extra popups to show the data. You can also edit those parameters very easily in that module. I suggest you read up on that as well. I think you will like it.
 

Beepster
 
Ok, despite the insulting tone towards us "new" geeks
 

Beep, I don't think he said "new." I'm pretty sure he said "Young." Don't think you fall in that category!! Do you? LOL! Nice try though!!
 
King I hate to tell you, but your about two years late to this party!
 
Two years ago you would have had ten pages on this thread by now with all sorts of people singing the same song your singing now.
 
Some of the things I would have agreed with you too, back then. But now I can do things much faster than I ever thought I could. It really is faster. But it takes a good bit of time to learn. At least for me it did.
 
ABTW, I've been a user since PA6. I stopped upgrading when the first Sonar came out. When I got back in the loop was with Sonar 5, and that was a shock. But I quickly realized that things had come sooo far and I got left behind. It wasn't till Sonar 8 that I really got back in the grove. Then guess what? They did it again! But this time I made my mind up I wasn't going to get left behind. And with a new computer, new Win7 and the new X1, I started over, again.
 
And I am so glad I did. Pro Channel is worth it alone! But when you throw the new GUI "Skylight" into the mix, it becomes a no-brainer. And there really is more, with more to come!

I started with Cakewalk 3.0 (on floppy disk) for sequencing stuff back in the late 80s early 90s.  Finally migrated to PA9...still only used it for sequencing since I was still using analog tape machines.
 
When I first got X1 back in Dec. of 2011, I was totally frustrated and even stated here in the forums that X1 was OBVIOUSLY geared toward audio and NOT midi.  But my frustration was solely based on my lack of knowledge as to how the X series operated.
 
Once I took the time to actually play around with X1, then X2 and now X3....it is a dream to work with.  MIDI is a blast to work with, it sees all my hardware synths and racks, and still syncs up flawlessly with my Alesis HD24 when I want to track with it.
 
So as others have said....allow yourself some time to just "play" with the X series of Sonar and learn your way around it.  I know without a doubt that all these great folks here in the forums were really getting tired of my b**ching, when it was totally every bit my fault because of lack of experience with this new DAW.  But I got LOTS of help and answers here and have come to LOVE working with X1,X2, and X3.
 
And I will take this time to say THANK YOU again to ALL of the people here who have helped me in the past...!!!

Beep you're a child! LOL

Trapped in the body of an 80 year old. ;-)

Wow...  technically, you could be my child.