Restoration of a very early color film

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Re:Restoration of a very early color film 2012/09/15 16:52:40 (permalink)
I am under no illusion that that isn't true.  Bear in mind that my husband, with his Yale PhD, is a professor at a Cal State University.  We refer to the CSU as the 13th grade.  Because that's what it is. It is not the UC, it is not Yale. It isn't even the small, liberal arts school I attended in Ohio. Not even close. These students have difficulty putting a sentence together, much less controlling a cohesive thought or opening their eyes to the actual world that is around us.

My point is.... I enjoy your ramblings many times.  I won't pretend that sometimes even I, with a predilection to deciphering the indecipherable, have an easy time of following you.  However, I find it unecessary to trot out a pedigree when I want to converse with my friends here.  And sometimes, it feels as though you wish to rub our noses in our democratically inclined egalitarianism.

Personally, I know people with pedigrees and degrees and grants of scholarship that are famous enough in their own rights to make you wet your pants. They have no place here.  This is just a bunch of of us having fun.  

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Re:Restoration of a very early color film 2012/09/15 18:06:19 (permalink)
I kind of feel like I'm derailing this thread, but getting back to the op, this is way cool.
Think about it. 1902.
There are no electronics. No Photoshop. No Sony Vegas.
The internal combustion engine is around, but not common. Steam is the power for any large scale transportation.
And here we have Mr. Turner splitting out color into RGB. I can only imagine the clockwork machinery involved in his camera and projector. This, in itself, is an art.
Today's TVs and monitors rely on RGB, and I wonder how much of current technology has been drawn from the work of the likes of Mr. Turner.
What he did, when he did it, is truly amazing.
Stuff like this just blows me away.

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Re:Restoration of a very early color film 2012/09/15 18:11:46 (permalink)
mike_mccue


Hi Mosh,

I went out and found a new B.C. avatar for you to consider using:




No need ... I have the blank image on purpose ... so folks have to figure out what is an image that is given them and one that ... they have to figure out themselves!
 
I tell you ... images are the ... worse!
 
And I'm into film and making one right now!
 
And you know the worst part? ... I create images, and last film the professor said .. "you're incredible with those images ... how did you make that? ..." and to me ... all I did was illustrate the music that was there!
 
Go figure! A total and real visual of the music itself and the lyrics ... and it goes right over their heads!


As a wise Guy once stated from his holy chapala ... none of the hits, none of the time ... prevents you from becoming just another turkey in the middle of all the other turkeys! 
  
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Re:Restoration of a very early color film 2012/09/15 19:09:32 (permalink)

Hi Mosh,
 Did you read the question about whether or not you watched the video about the film you criticized?

 Did you watch the video linked to in the OP before you made your comments?

 I think it'd be a lot easier to understand where you are coming from if you can provide an answer.


 best,
mike


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Re:Restoration of a very early color film 2012/09/15 19:20:22 (permalink)

 With regards to the info about the film and the film process.

 It may be helpful to appreciate that as a working photographer the inventor was most likely aware of the photographic color seperation process used for about 20 years before this film application was developed.

 The point being that the process is not only unique but also part of a spectrum of technologies that were emerging in that era.

 The incredible thing about the inventor is that he developed a device that separated colors simultaneously so that it was suitable for motion picture and then he developed a mechanism that reassembled the colors simultaneously so that they could converge and blend on the projection surface.

 It was, and is, very ambitious and it is curious precursor to the 3 chip projection devices that we've grown accustomed to these days.

 Good times!

 all the best,
mike


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Re:Restoration of a very early color film 2012/09/15 20:07:17 (permalink)
Mosh.
 
The film wasn't colorized, it captured the real colour of the event.
 
Black and white is the fake here, it turns reality into a pure limited monochromatic experience.
 
There's real colour in my world and this guy found out how to capture it in pure form not to have it represented by a chemical emulsion that would estimate reality.
 
This is the real deal and he had it worked out better than 'Technicolor' way back in 1902.
 
That is the significance here that you've completely failed to grasp or even bother to investigate before your contempt took hold.
 
To state it in 'hippie loon' terminology that may better appeal to you he learned how to decode and re-encode the rainbow 110 years ago.
post edited by Jonbouy - 2012/09/15 20:13:49

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Re:Restoration of a very early color film 2012/09/16 02:31:51 (permalink)
julibee


I am under no illusion that that isn't true.  Bear in mind that my husband, with his Yale PhD, is a professor at a Cal State University.  We refer to the CSU as the 13th grade.  Because that's what it is. It is not the UC, it is not Yale. It isn't even the small, liberal arts school I attended in Ohio. Not even close. These students have difficulty putting a sentence together, much less controlling a cohesive thought or opening their eyes to the actual world that is around us.

My point is.... I enjoy your ramblings many times.  I won't pretend that sometimes even I, with a predilection to deciphering the indecipherable, have an easy time of following you.  However, I find it unecessary to trot out a pedigree when I want to converse with my friends here.  And sometimes, it feels as though you wish to rub our noses in our democratically inclined egalitarianism.

Personally, I know people with pedigrees and degrees and grants of scholarship that are famous enough in their own rights to make you wet your pants. They have no place here.  This is just a bunch of of us having fun.  

Do you think Beagle has one?

 
Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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Re:Restoration of a very early color film 2012/09/16 08:10:40 (permalink)
Beagle has earned his pedigree you know.

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Re:Restoration of a very early color film 2012/09/16 15:23:01 (permalink)
Hi,

Maybe I have become too bapu with my ideas ... a bit cynical!

I just think that sometimes, the money is better spent on cancer cures or aids cures ... it's just hard for me to enjoy and appreciate some of these other things ... when, by comparison, it seems like the money is simply ... not used in something that affects you and I and our friends, a lot more.

Sorry.

As a wise Guy once stated from his holy chapala ... none of the hits, none of the time ... prevents you from becoming just another turkey in the middle of all the other turkeys! 
  
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Re:Restoration of a very early color film 2012/09/16 15:58:42 (permalink)
Ok then, if you will not answer my last two questions I'll just ask you a third.

How do you feel about the recently formulated life saving electromagnetic photographic process known as: Sparse MRI ?




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Re:Restoration of a very early color film 2012/09/16 21:44:54 (permalink)
Karyn


Technically it's not colour film,  it's colour encoded.


That's interesting. The concept of encoding being dependent on a filter that basically blocks white light and allows colored light.

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