Stringrazor1
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Restoring Old BUN files
Lost a partition on a drive that had Sonar projects. Also am installing a new DAW with S8.5P. I have some old discs with BUN files. S8.5P barfs reading them (why, Calkewalk?) so I dug out the old PA9 CD and reg card, install it on an XP VM, loaded up the BUN, saveed it to a WRK, and copied over the wrk & WAV file to the 8.5 DAW. It barfs again. It starts to load then says "converting old format", gets to 40% and never completes. This is a small WAV file too. What kind of hoops do I need to jump through to restore this project?
I find the lack of backward support really insulting to those of us who have stuck with this company for so many years (since 4.0 for DOS for me but I think I'm done). At least provide some off-line util to make this task easier (or even possible!).
Pardon my tone but I'm pissed off tonight. What should have been a 5 minute task has wasted a couple of hours and I still haven't restored the project.
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timidi
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Re:Restoring Old BUN files
2012/10/01 08:21:45
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Define,
some old discs
I think therein lies your problem if talking about CDs or DVDs. And, Bun files have been known to cause problems.
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Stringrazor1
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Re:Restoring Old BUN files
2012/10/01 10:38:52
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You're missing the point entirely. There's nothing wrong with the disc or BUN file. It restored to the PA9 instance just fine (yes, it plays in PA9). Now I have a PA9 WRK file and WAV file that S8.5P will not load.
post edited by Stringrazor1 - 2012/10/01 10:40:55
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Re:Restoring Old BUN files
2012/10/01 12:30:59
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When you opened the BUN, why didn't you save it to a CWP file instead of a WRK. Sonar no longer uses the old WRK format. However, I've found that most WRKs will open in Sonar. Try saving the project to a CWP and see what happens.
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Re:Restoring Old BUN files
2012/10/01 13:22:36
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Stringrazor1
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Re:Restoring Old BUN files
2012/10/01 13:40:50
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daveny5
When you opened the BUN, why didn't you save it to a CWP file instead of a WRK. Sonar no longer uses the old WRK format. However, I've found that most WRKs will open in Sonar. Try saving the project to a CWP and see what happens.
Didn't think PA9 had that option but thanks for the suggestion, I'll look. If not, I guess I'll have to install an old version of Sonar. What a PITA.... scook
You may find something in here http://forum.cakewalk.com/fb.ashx?m=2675846 that might help.
Saw that but I'm passed the point of dealing with the BUN file. Also, the rename trick didn't work in 8.5.
post edited by Stringrazor1 - 2012/10/01 13:43:12
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Re:Restoring Old BUN files
2012/10/01 14:02:29
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Actually I was thinking of having CW tech support convert it into a usable format. They routinely offer to do it.
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Stringrazor1
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Re:Restoring Old BUN files
2012/10/01 22:56:34
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So I just remembered an old system that still has my Delta 1010 in it also still has Sonar 6 installed. It loaded the bun with no problems and converted it in a heartbeat. Why the heck would Cakewalk break that capability?
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Re:Restoring Old BUN files
2012/10/01 23:42:56
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Have you tried opening those files in the Safe Mode?(holding the shift key down while you open them prior to opening Sonar,i.e. double clicking them in windows explorer). could be a plugin causing the problem.
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Stringrazor1
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Re:Restoring Old BUN files
2012/10/02 00:02:30
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yup... opens an empty project, same plugs are on the S6 system. BTW, I went back to PA9 to check and it had no option to save as CWP. I'm sure some "historian" here can comment on what version first used that format but I'm guessing it was Sonar 1. So it's clear that the ability to load old the BUN and WRK formats existed in Sonar as recent as 6 but is broken in 8.53. I wonder if it's "fixed" in Xn.....
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Re:Restoring Old BUN files
2012/10/02 16:49:40
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BTW, I went back to PA9 to check and it had no option to save as CWP. I'm sure some "historian" here can comment on what version first used that format but I'm guessing it was Sonar 1. Right, PA9 did not have that capability. CWP was developed after WRK. I don't know about 8.53 not being able to open BUNs and WRKs. I just opened an old BUN in X2 last night so I know that works. BUNs are prone to corruption because of their size so that format is not recommended for backup. The current preferred method is to use Per Project Folders which groups the CWP and audio files separately in a folder so that you can back up the folder which is a collection of smaller files.
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Stringrazor1
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Re:Restoring Old BUN files
2012/10/02 17:25:23
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daveny5
BTW, I went back to PA9 to check and it had no option to save as CWP. I'm sure some "historian" here can comment on what version first used that format but I'm guessing it was Sonar 1.
Right, PA9 did not have that capability. CWP was developed after WRK.
I don't know about 8.53 not being able to open BUNs and WRKs. I just opened an old BUN in X2 last night so I know that works. BUNs are prone to corruption because of their size so that format is not recommended for backup. The current preferred method is to use Per Project Folders which groups the CWP and audio files separately in a folder so that you can back up the folder which is a collection of smaller files.
Thanks for trying that, Dave. Sure, I would never use .bun format today (is it even still an option?) but I have these files and they were useful. I suppose it's not inconceivable ( "Inconceivable!" "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." - The Princess Bride) that the copy of the bun file made off the CD on the new DAW got corrupted yet the copies from the same disc to the other two systems didn't. I'll try copying it off again tonight. It does seem odd that loading from a .bun would work in S6, not in S8.53, and work again in X2. (it's inconceivable!)
post edited by Stringrazor1 - 2012/10/02 17:32:42
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Re:Restoring Old BUN files
2012/10/02 18:10:33
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You're missing the point entirely. Really?
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Re:Restoring Old BUN files
2012/10/03 16:05:04
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timidi
You're missing the point entirely.
Really?
yup.
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