kitekrazy1
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Reviews can be meaningless.
Our staff has read your review and values your contribution even though it did not meet all our website guidelines. Thanks for sharing, and we hope to publish next time!
The best way to interpret is never give a review under 4 stars. I did make some mistakes in a review but more and more reviews are meaningless in most vendors. I think I will stop doing these unless there is some compensation for my time. Myloops always gives me 3 pounds off my next purchase. New Loops gives you 20% off.
In all fairness I probably shouldn't put this here but reviews can be quite useless on a vendor's site. Some do not allow for critical honesty. Udemy seems to. The Prop shop is worthless. Plugin Boutique only allows star ratings.
Usually the honesty comes from forums.
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Re: Reviews can be meaningless.
2017/01/14 14:18:07
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Being pestered for weeks after any purchase by amazon is one of the reasons I don't buy more stuff from them. I tried to tell them this, but of course you can't reply to the actual amazon email asking for a review. A 3rd party supplier also bombarded me with requests, so I replied that I thought that the earphones that I bought from them looked nice and seemed well made, but sounded awful with dreadfully hyped bass and I wouldn't recommend them to anyone who actually enjoyed listening to music, so would he still like me to post my review ? Funnily enough, no he didn't want me to do that.
I did like this one that someone posted for the fire tv stick though........
I bought this as an electronic babysitter, for my husband, who is five. Oh, wait, not five, 48. I was pig-sick of him watching Netflix on his mobile phone, with his netbook pinging up Facebook messages, with the TV on full blast, and the sound from his Netflix leaking out of his earphones, because he had that on full volume as well, to counter-balance whatever was happening on the TV he wasn't watching. It has worked a treat, as he now watches endless hours of crap on the big TV, while his netbook and phone ping Facebook messages at him, and he lies on the couch, re-arranging his crotch, and grunting.
The installation was easy, despite the fact that I only have full use of one hand, I didn't need any screwdrivers, and I'm not allowed hammers anyway. I did stand on an apple that the dog had taken behind the TV, for dog-reasons, and it squidged between my toes a bit, but I don't suppose that's a universal installation issue, not everyone having a dog that hides fruit behind the TV.
The plug-and-play nature of the device meant that I was able to install without asking for help from a man, and I didn't even break any fingernails. I'm relatively certain I've deleted any links to my social media from Amazon, so the husband won't be able to ferret about, at two in the morning, while he's watching something with boobs in, or yet another concert from the time period when I was being potty-trained, and see all of the nasty things I say about him.
For me, it has been £35 well-spent, although the glut of adverts offering it for £25 have been a bit of a kick in the crotch, I could have spent the extra £10 on gin, but it would have been cheap gin, so there would have been no real gain.
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Re: Reviews can be meaningless.
2017/01/14 15:01:07
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Thanks for sharing, I like that review.
I always think that if you don't allow critical or low star reviews you hurt yourself as smart folks might figure out that you are essentially lying because virtually no one has all 5 star products or services. I'd rather see a few reviews that are crummy and a response that offers help or an offer to refund, then endless bootlicking reviews.
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Re: Reviews can be meaningless.
2017/01/14 15:01:13
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Dadratthedadrattedluck...
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Re: Reviews can be meaningless.
2017/01/14 15:02:04
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kitekrazy1
In all fairness I probably shouldn't put this here but reviews can be quite useless on a vendor's site.
I have never in my life even tried to read any review or "user comments" on a vendor site. Documentation, ads, etc. are ok. But not reviews. They are supposed to be independent by definition and anything on a vendor site is NOT independent by definition. May be the only exceptions are vendor's forums, like this one. It is normally easy to see which "freedom" users have on such forums. I like Amazon, booking.com and several other portals on which I had no problem to find that something is fishy nor report reasonable negative feedback. I try to post positive about all products I really like, something many people forget to do. I do not trust much payed reviews at all, except from particular people on there sites since I know how biased they are in particular topics.
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Re: Reviews can be meaningless.
2017/01/14 15:50:45
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Being pestered for weeks after any purchase by amazon is one of the reasons I don't buy more stuff from them.
We must be very lucky here because my wife and I order on Amazon constantly - usually one or 2 orders a week, sometimes more - for everything from books and DVDs and guitar strings to food and clothing. And same day delivery rocks. I can count on my fingers of one hand the requests for reviews I've received during the last 3 or 4 years, always by 3rd party. I've seen 2 or 3 cases which went beyond one e-mail. And since most sellers are afraid of bad reviews, service is almost always impeccable. Lucky I suppose.
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Re: Reviews can be meaningless.
2017/01/14 16:47:17
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Requests for amazon reviews only seem to come when buying things from partner sellers. I buy a lot of stuff that way - used hardback books and CDs are especially a bargain. Review requests are little annoying perhaps, but it's the price you pay for the price you pay.
I have never once been taken advantage of by amazon partner sellers. Amazon seems to have their policies well ingrained. If you want to be a partner seller, you don't screw people, period. I rarely write reviews product reviews, but I do always (eventually) leave seller feedback. It makes for a healthier marketplace all around and appreciate the efforts of others to do the same.
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kitekrazy1
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Re: Reviews can be meaningless.
2017/01/14 18:13:47
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There is a member on this site that bought some loop files and they were poor quality and the developer would not allow the review on their site. It's always nice to remind them that these review can be posted anywhere.
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Re: Reviews can be meaningless.
2017/01/14 22:03:28
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Made me lol, paulo, thanks.
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Re: Reviews can be meaningless.
2017/01/15 10:25:25
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I rely heavily on Amazon user reviews, because if you can't physically examine a product beforehand, it's often all you've got to go on. I recently bought a gym bag online to carry my cords, pedals and microphone to gigs. Reviews steered me away from cheap products that had failed prematurely, and toward what was ultimately a good purchase.
The trick is to go straight to the one-star reviews first. Filter out the whiners ("I thought it would be sky blue and it was Navy!") and you're left with a reasonable estimate of the odds of getting a defective item. Figure on a consistent 2% who will be displeased regardless. But if the percentage of one-star reviews is, say, 10%, then best walk away. But in any event, it's a safe bet that none of those were planted by the vendor!
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Re: Reviews can be meaningless.
2017/01/15 11:16:04
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Quite happy with Amazon these last years. If there's any problem, it gets rectified swiftly.
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Re: Reviews can be meaningless.
2017/01/15 11:31:47
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A couple of things with product reviews. One, most people that are happy with a product don't take the time to give a positive review. I try to go out of the way to review myself, and I'm still getting requests to answer questions about the Dell Touch Screen I bought years ago. Which is fine, although many of the questions are so stupid I can't believe those people can figure out how to get out of bed in the morning.
The people most likely to review are the ones that think they were ripped off. they squeal the most and most often.
Many, if not most product sites will take down negative reviews (not Amazon's). I can't say I blame them. If some one slagged my product saying "this guy doesn't know enough to get out of bed in the morning how can he make X" I would do myself a favor. I just didn't buy a music stand after seeing that a majority of Amazon reviews for the cheaper units complained about problems. So I just use an old one that my kid used - it was cheap and falling apart but free.
So it is a real "read" between the lines. But more information is always preferred, just taking into account the sources to balance things out.
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Re: Reviews can be meaningless.
2017/01/15 11:59:52
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Sweetwater reviews seem to be the most blatantly planted.
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Re: Reviews can be meaningless.
2017/01/15 12:45:33
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kitekrazy1
Usually the honesty comes from forums.
+1 for honesty .....most of everything I have been happy buying has gotten a decent honest fair review from forum members here  On the other side of the coin if I'm gassing super hard for something , I may want to hear some whoppers and outright Lies just to keep the dream of gassing for it alive  The truth is my wallet always seems to have the final say . all the best , Kenny
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Re: Reviews can be meaningless.
2017/01/15 13:37:28
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Amazon reviews were ruined by the introduction of paid reviewers. That is, when you read a review and it ends with the disclaimer "this fair and impartial review was written in exchange for a discount on the product." You see those all over the place now. As soon as I see a product with those reviews, I back out of the page and look at another product. The reviewers were getting some great deals however - my girlfriend's sister was doing it and she had hundreds of codes for free stuff and discounts. In fact whenever I've said I was going to buy something on Amazon my girlfriend would say "oh hang on, I think my sister has a code for that."
Thankfully I believe Amazon have banned the practice now. Part of the problem with Amazon is that its "fulfilled by Amazon" scheme has given birth to a landslide of "Amazon entrepreneurs" who sell stuff on there and have Amazon store and ship it for them. There is a huge competition among these sellers to have their products come up top in search results and this is why they go nuts incentivizing reviews - the more reviews you have on a product, the heavier you're weighted in searches. Some of these guys are making a ton of money. My girlfriend's uncle has made over a million dollars selling doorbells on Amazon. He has them made in China and uses Fulfilled By Amazon to handle all the sales and shipping. They call him Uncle Ding Dong now. He has used these paid reviewers.
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Re: Reviews can be meaningless.
2017/01/15 14:21:43
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Then again, he'll remain Uncle Ding Dong for quite some time. You win some, you lose a lot.
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Re: Reviews can be meaningless.
2017/01/16 07:23:51
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VST4Free is kind enough to give a number of my little creations a second home and they offer ratings and reviews. I have chatted to the very fine gentleman who runs the site and I get the impression sometimes he cringes a bit when my stuff gets hammered in the reviews. Hey I figure its better to know the truth of what folks really think and maybe you can actually learn something by the negatives, what annoys folks, what isn't worth releasing etc...
Often it does seem like it is either comments from folks who can't get things to work or don't like them or folks who are very excited. So often 5 or 1 star, though you do get some three star type ratings.
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Re: Reviews can be meaningless.
2017/01/16 08:16:51
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Sweetwater reviews seem to be the most blatantly planted.
Yeah, I noticed they sort by best reviews first, a bit misleading. Check out the presonus 1818vsl on their site - looks like good reviews - then sort them by date. The most recent 5 reviews are all one star due to presonus' deceptive practices - selling off the 1818vsl which had the vsl functionality removed 2 years ago.
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Re: Reviews can be meaningless.
2017/01/16 08:48:16
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This month if ordered a new camera, 2 filters, hot shoe spirit level, neoprene case, lens caps, left handed scissors, first reader books, USB adapters, cables, but all to the UK. My dad is bringing them out when he visits in 9 days. I've been bombarded with amazon review requests. I;ve not had the chance to use any of it yet. You'd think they'd ask in a month. If you have something new, you'll be busy using it t care about reviewing, and how can you give a good review for something as complex a digital camera, without having had a chance to use it properly. These things are full of functions nowadays. Things like cables may work well the first few days and g a little funky.
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Re: Reviews can be meaningless.
2017/01/16 10:44:51
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I once wrote a review that I subsequently regretted. I should really try to find it and amend it.
The review was for a microphone cable I got from Parts Express. It seemed like an excellent deal at the time, but a month later the cable failed. Now I am feeling guilty for possibly having a hand in suckering others into buying that POS. The moral of the story: don't respond to those emails begging you to review things you've bought; wait a few months.
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Re: Reviews can be meaningless.
2017/01/16 11:27:13
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This month if ordered a new camera, 2 filters, hot shoe spirit level, neoprene case, lens caps, left handed scissors, first reader books, USB adapters, cables, but all to the UK. My dad is bringing them out when he visits in 9 days. I've been bombarded with amazon review requests. I;ve not had the chance to use any of it yet. You'd think they'd ask in a month. If you have something new, you'll be busy using it t care about reviewing, and how can you give a good review for something as complex a digital camera, without having had a chance to use it properly. These things are full of functions nowadays. Things like cables may work well the first few days and g a little funky.
Hope it's no to too cynical but, maybe they ask for the reviews so soon so they get a positive before anything goes wrong. You wouldn't have to be too smart to figure out the chance of something failing increases with time.
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Re: Reviews can be meaningless.
2017/01/16 11:39:41
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This month if ordered a new camera, 2 filters, hot shoe spirit level, neoprene case, lens caps, left handed scissors, first reader books, USB adapters, cables, but all to the UK. My dad is bringing them out when he visits in 9 days. I've been bombarded with amazon review requests. I;ve not had the chance to use any of it yet. You'd think they'd ask in a month. If you have something new, you'll be busy using it t care about reviewing, and how can you give a good review for something as complex a digital camera, without having had a chance to use it properly. These things are full of functions nowadays. Things like cables may work well the first few days and g a little funky.
I wish more people would wait to use a product for a while before writing a review. My top rated review on Amazon is for a popular brand of humidifier, which was great at first but develops a leak after a month or so. I've had 2 replacements which both did the same thing, and many other people have left bad reviews citing a similar experience. However most of the reviews are positive and seem to be from people who went off their initial impression of the unit, which admittedly performs very well at first. This is the issue I have with some reviews on sites and blogs. They're based off of an afternoon of playing with the thing, when in reality you need to put something through its paces for at least a few weeks to get a good idea of how it stands up to repeated use. Some things are built to fail quite quickly.
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Re: Reviews can be meaningless.
2017/01/16 11:40:08
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☄ Helpfulby Fleer 2017/01/16 15:08:58
Not cynical. I am certain they are aware that you're far more likely to get a positive review immediately after the purchase. Imagine if people reviewed their spouses immediately after their first consummation versus after 10 years.
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Re: Reviews can be meaningless.
2017/01/16 11:46:28
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☄ Helpfulby Fleer 2017/01/16 12:18:20
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I once wrote a review that I subsequently regretted. I should really try to find it and amend it.
The review was for a microphone cable I got from Parts Express. It seemed like an excellent deal at the time, but a month later the cable failed. Now I am feeling guilty for possibly having a hand in suckering others into buying that POS. The moral of the story: don't respond to those emails begging you to review things you've bought; wait a few months.
I like to give all of my Amazon reviews the once over every now and then to check that they're still relevant and that I haven't since changed my mind. Seems only fair. I've done some complete turnarounds. One was for a book on C programming which I had gotten very frustrated with and left a 2 star review. A few months later I tackled it again and found that, probably because I went in with a better attitude, the book was actually extremely well written and so I went back, rewrote the review and gave it 5 stars. Every now and then the author of a book will participate in the comments left under Amazon reviews. It always makes me cringe. A few years ago I wrote a damning review of a programming manual and the author took offense. He stalked me in the comments for a few weeks, made stupid arguments which were easily refuted and generally made a complete ass of himself instead of just taking the criticism on the chin and moving on.
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Re: Reviews can be meaningless.
2017/01/16 15:07:30
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Not cynical. I am certain they are aware that you're far more likely to get a positive review immediately after the purchase. Imagine if people reviewed their spouses immediately after their first consummation versus after 10 years.
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Re: Reviews can be meaningless.
2017/01/16 15:17:57
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paulo
Being pestered for weeks after any purchase by amazon is one of the reasons I don't buy more stuff from them.
We must be very lucky here because my wife and I order on Amazon constantly - usually one or 2 orders a week, sometimes more - for everything from books and DVDs and guitar strings to food and clothing. And same day delivery rocks.
I can count on my fingers of one hand the requests for reviews I've received during the last 3 or 4 years, always by 3rd party. I've seen 2 or 3 cases which went beyond one e-mail. And since most sellers are afraid of bad reviews, service is almost always impeccable.
Lucky I suppose.
Maybe it's more a UK thing or because I don't buy very much that they think that I need geeing up a bit, but all I can say is that it has exactly the opposite effect on me. I also don't consider that actually sending me the thing I just paid them to send me is something they should be congratulated for or rewarded in some way like they've done me some kind of favour. That was the deal - I paid for it so you send it.
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Re: Reviews can be meaningless.
2017/01/17 10:04:51
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bitflipper
Not cynical. I am certain they are aware that you're far more likely to get a positive review immediately after the purchase. Imagine if people reviewed their spouses immediately after their first consummation versus after 10 years.
DANE-GER-US!! If my wife even thought I was consorting with "Spouse Reviewers"! Wooo! (shakes from the spine) I'm going to go watch cat videos on YouTube for a while in case she's feeling a disturbance in the Force.
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Re: Reviews can be meaningless.
2017/01/17 10:39:14
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It's not the reviews, it's the returns. She keeps coming back.
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Re: Reviews can be meaningless.
2017/01/17 10:44:32
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☄ Helpfulby BassDaddy 2017/01/17 10:54:18
I thought those spouses were so good, I paid for three of them!
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Re: Reviews can be meaningless.
2017/01/17 10:46:49
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☄ Helpfulby Hatstand 2017/01/17 10:54:09
Man, come clear, it was a 2 + 1 deal.
At least they let you keep the hatstand.
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