Jimbo 88
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Ripple editing....
The new update has ripple editing. I'm in the middle of 2 film projects that ripple editing would just be so cool. However I'm afraid to upgrade in the mist of of projects with deadlines like these.
Can people post if the new update is stable.
THANKS!!
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Re: Ripple editing....
2017/05/27 00:13:35
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Re: Ripple editing....
2017/05/27 00:17:30
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Just been posted....check the stuff at the top of the forum. Sorry I'm not tech savvy enough to know how to create a link.
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Re: Ripple editing....
2017/05/27 00:18:26
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Re: Ripple editing....
2017/05/27 00:43:15
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☄ Helpfulby chuckebaby 2017/05/27 13:17:26
I personally never update in the middle of a job. But that said, the ability to roll-back updates has always worked flawlessly, so the level of risk is low, if the feature looks useful.
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Re: Ripple editing....
2017/05/27 02:49:43
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Jimbo 88
The new update has ripple editing. I'm in the middle of 2 film projects that ripple editing would just be so cool. However I'm afraid to upgrade in the mist of of projects with deadlines like these.
Can people post if the new update is stable.
THANKS!!
Don't do it. This is not the release, it is the "early access" or beta. Secondly, even when it is released, do not upgrade unlessl your critical work on your current projects is done. I have a lot of faith in the Bakers, but I would hesitate diving in on production work with this release, considering it is the first release with ripple edit. We all know there will be bugs, and it'll take a couple of updates before we can relax. And while we're on the subject... Am i the only one who really doesn't understand what Ripple Editing is and why it's a big deal?
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Re: Ripple editing....
2017/05/27 03:39:11
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Jimbo 88
The new update has ripple editing. I'm in the middle of 2 film projects that ripple editing would just be so cool. However I'm afraid to upgrade in the mist of of projects with deadlines like these.
Can people post if the new update is stable.
THANKS!!
Don't do it.
This is not the release, it is the "early access" or beta.
Secondly, even when it is released, do not upgrade unlessl your critical work on your current projects is done. I have a lot of faith in the Bakers, but I would hesitate diving in on production work with this release, considering it is the first release with ripple edit. We all know there will be bugs, and it'll take a couple of updates before we can relax.
And while we're on the subject... Am i the only one who really doesn't understand what Ripple Editing is and why it's a big deal?
Ripple editing is hopefully going to save me many hours when a video editor sends me a new version of a project....and if I have to add or cut out sections, all the tempo, automation, meters will move together.
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Re: Ripple editing....
2017/05/27 09:34:37
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And while we're on the subject... Am i the only one who really doesn't understand what Ripple Editing is and why it's a big deal?
No Stickman, you're not the only one! Can someone explain to me what ripple editing is as if I were a ten year old?
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Re: Ripple editing....
2017/05/27 09:53:12
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I also save time with this new feature.
When a digitazed tape is empty for an hour, I can delete the hole in a few seconds. The markers are also moved.
Or I can insert a vinyl with 45 minutes or a tape with 2 hours and move the other following recordings to the right.
I have missed this feature for more as ten years.
And of course I use this new (early access) feature in current projects with deadlines.
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Re: Ripple editing....
2017/05/27 10:20:10
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☄ Helpfulby stickman393 2017/05/27 16:19:46
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Re: Ripple editing....
2017/05/27 11:21:13
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To handle project wide chunks with content and holes - is the first step to make an arranger like Cubase and Studio One has. Even tempotracks should be handled accordingly.
This is the hard part - the rest is rather easy - to make playlists of ranges of timeline.
Then generate new projects from different versions as you wish for further work.
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Re: Ripple editing....
2017/05/27 11:38:25
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☄ Helpfulby glennstanton 2017/05/30 13:53:11
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Can someone explain to me what ripple editing is as if I were a ten year old?
Well, once upon a time there was a mummy sonar and a daddy sonar. They loved each other very much and they spent a very, very long time talking about their new baby, but didn't seem to be doing much about actually making it. People had started to talk and wonder if they didn't even really know how to make their baby and they knew that they would have to do something soon or people would get fed up of their blah, blah, blah.... but still no baby, so they finally got around to rubbing their pee-pee's together and soon afterwards they had a new baby and they called it ripple editing. Ripple editing changed everything and everyone was happy ever after.
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Re: Ripple editing....
2017/05/27 11:43:40
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Gee.. er.. thanks Paulo.. I think..
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Re: Ripple editing....
2017/05/27 11:45:55
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I now understand that it's called ripple editing because the edit has a "ripple" effect on the rest of the events in that track. You move one thing and it moves everything else.. Got it!
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Re: Ripple editing....
2017/05/27 12:07:19
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Gee.. er.. thanks Paulo.. I think..
dlesaux
I now understand that it's called ripple editing because the edit has a "ripple" effect on the rest of the events in that track. You move one thing and it moves everything else.. Got it!
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Re: Ripple editing....
2017/05/27 12:09:43
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In the Piano Roll View section it says: "Tracks menu is back with commands for Select All Tracks, Clear Track Selection, Invert Track Selection, and Focus Previous/Next Track." What exaclty are commands? Does that mean hotkeys / keyboard shortcuts? Thank you! Edit: Probably cleared up by this: Keyboard Shortcuts - New Keyboard Shortcuts in Preferences for Piano Roll view. Now includes Auto Lock On/Off, Filter On/Off, Select All Tracks, Clear Track Selection, Invert Track Selection, and Focus Previous/Next Track.
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Re: Ripple editing....
2017/05/27 14:49:32
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Ripple editing is *most* welcome for me, but I'll let others explain it better than I probably can (though at least one of the mystified seems to have it cleared up now - it is, admittedly, a somewhat oblique term). My biggest hope at the moment is that this monster update will shut down the "Cakewalk doesn't care about us, they just took our money for 'lifetime updates' as a cynical cash-in and are clearly planning to abandon the product any minute" threads... for at least a day or two... maybe even a week if we're lucky!
Nice work Bakerpeople! Looking forward to digging into it pronto!
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Re: Ripple editing....
2017/05/27 15:03:37
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PRV love, Ripple Editing, new plug ins, bug fixes-what's not to love? As Sherlock says " I wouldn't miss this for the world!" Great job bakers for the 30th.  x10.
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Re: Ripple editing....
2017/05/30 13:31:10
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is there a tutorial for ripple editing in SONAR?
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Re: Ripple editing....
2017/05/30 14:14:38
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☄ Helpfulby Kamikaze 2017/05/30 14:19:54
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is there a tutorial for ripple editing in SONAR?
We're working on a video, should be ready at or around the official release day.
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Re: Ripple editing....
2017/05/30 14:23:03
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Alex Westner [Cakewalk]
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is there a tutorial for ripple editing in SONAR?
We're working on a video, should be ready at or around the official release day.
great!! thank you.
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Re: Ripple editing....
2017/05/30 23:43:18
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Simple question: Where do you turn on the ripple editing option?
On edit, I see it is in the Option pull-down of the track window.
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Re: Ripple editing....
2017/05/31 01:50:14
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OK, for those wondering about ripple...here is a perfect example of how ripple editing works for me....
An Editor sends me a program to score the music. It has Scenes 1,2,3,4,5 in order. I compose the music, send it in and music gets approved. However, the producer decides that scene 5 works better where scene 2 is and scene 2 should go between 3 and 4. This happens to me A LOT.
In the past I would copy down all my tempos in the effected scenes (having ritards or accel would be very risky), copy and paste what I could ever so carefully. Most of the time it would be quicker for me to insert something like 100 measures, paste in effected area and then delete and shift everything into place. I don't have time to explain why that works better here, but lets say this is not a simple thing to do and get perfectly correct.
So now with ripple I should be able to copy and paste scene 2 between 3 and 4, then copy and paste 5 after scene 1. I still will have to pay very close attention, but that is just 2 edits as oppose to probably 30+.
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Re: Ripple editing....
2017/05/31 02:18:12
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Think of Ripple Editing as enabling editing of the timeline, and the clips do what is necessary to conform to the edited timeline. Examples: - You want to take out two measures of a song. So you take out those two measures; all the clips within those measures go away as well, and the two measures close up so there's no two-measure space. In other words, you've deleted two measures of time, and as a result, that deletes two measures of clips.
- You're writing a song, and you have a verse and a chorus. You want to add a second verse before the chorus. So, you copy the first verse and paste it before the chorus. This adds enough time to the timeline so that the clips can paste into that space.
Of course SONAR's implementation is more sophisticated than that, but those are probably the most common use cases. See the 2017.05 issue of Tech+Miusic (coming soon) for more examples.
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Re: Ripple editing....
2017/05/31 16:47:27
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Jimbo 88
OK, for those wondering about ripple...here is a perfect example of how ripple editing works for me....
An Editor sends me a program to score the music. It has Scenes 1,2,3,4,5 in order. I compose the music, send it in and music gets approved. However, the producer decides that scene 5 works better where scene 2 is and scene 2 should go between 3 and 4. This happens to me A LOT.
In the past I would copy down all my tempos in the effected scenes (having ritards or accel would be very risky), copy and paste what I could ever so carefully. Most of the time it would be quicker for me to insert something like 100 measures, paste in effected area and then delete and shift everything into place. I don't have time to explain why that works better here, but lets say this is not a simple thing to do and get perfectly correct.
So now with ripple I should be able to copy and paste scene 2 between 3 and 4, then copy and paste 5 after scene 1. I still will have to pay very close attention, but that is just 2 edits as oppose to probably 30+.
THANK YOU BAKERS!
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Re: Ripple editing....
2017/06/01 16:41:52
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☄ Helpfulby Alex Westner [Cakewalk] 2017/06/01 16:57:46
I would just like to remind all that with great power comes great responsibility. Having worked with ripple editing in Vegas, I found it is easy to destroy a project (or do a lot of undos) if you are not careful. And, to be the master of the bloody obvious, only enable it when you need it and turn it off when done.
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Re: Ripple editing....
2017/06/06 22:42:56
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is there a tutorial for ripple editing in SONAR?
We're working on a video, should be ready at or around the official release day.
great!! thank you.
FYI ... I saw this posted in a different thread, but thought folks here would be interested too: The Ripple Editing video is now on YouTube. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGtfz2YB4sA
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Re: Ripple editing not moving tempo changes....SOLVED
2017/06/06 23:25:04
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☄ Helpfulby cparmerlee 2017/06/07 05:11:40
EDIT - Solved.
I realised that I hadn't done Copy Special, which allows you to select "Copy Tempo Changes". Works beautifully.
Hi,
Can someone confirm whether tempo changes are also moved when ripple editing? They seem not to be. I just did a simple experiment (using only midi) where I put some tempo changes in at the position of one clip, then copied that clip using ripple editing to further along the timeline. However, it didn't copy the tempo changes. Is this how it works? I tried it with Ripple edit selection, and Ripple edit All. I would have thought that tempo changes would also be moved.
Thanks
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Re: Ripple editing not moving tempo changes....SOLVED
2017/06/07 03:23:03
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So just an update on my end...I did the Early Access while working on 2 projects, something I should not have done, with NO issues. The ironic thing is I did not need the Ripple option. Oh well,,,
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Re: Ripple editing....
2017/06/07 11:33:04
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Alex Westner [Cakewalk]
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is there a tutorial for ripple editing in SONAR?
We're working on a video, should be ready at or around the official release day.
Any ETA on the video?
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