ohgrant
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Rocker: collab Feb 25 final
Hi folks, this is the first song I wrote back in the early 80's, I was honored to have some of Cakewalk forums finest musicians to be interested in sitting in on this one. Big thanks to Dave Carlson for the recent live drum performance. Drums: Dave Carlson (Quantum effect) , Bass: Ed Kocol (Bapu) Sax:Paul Anthony (Mooch) Keys: Dave Townsend (bitflipper) Guitars & vocals G.Starr piano :Jason Kocol Produced by G. Starr co-Producer Ed Kocol Rocker
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Re:Rocker: forum collab
2012/02/04 15:42:59
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it's better than my first effort. actually i love this, it's like something from Metal for Muthas, the production is from that era too, perfect, some great performances, i think my fave from you! awesome!
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Re:Rocker: forum collab
2012/02/04 16:51:20
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Nice work to everyone. Mix is really bright! Early 80's! Rimshot
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Re:Rocker: forum collab
2012/02/04 17:13:17
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Only listening on lappy, but this sounds great all the same - really liked it. Bearing in mind the obvious listening limitiations, the vox could maybe come up a bit and the keys are possibly a smidge too prominent in places, but that could be just personal taste too. Love the sax sound in particular - absolutely spot on for me. I can see me listening to this quite a lot.
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Re:Rocker: forum collab
2012/02/04 17:27:58
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Sounds really good G. Ya, mebee Vox could come up by 1db, but not critical. Methinks the organ and piano are perfect. Can you bring that solo up by 2db pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze? Great mix all in all though.
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Re:Rocker: forum collab
2012/02/04 17:59:20
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Well, that's quite a Rogue's Gallery Grant :-) And live drums too! :-) You gotta love that man. Hey, if you need the bass redone? Let me know ;-) LOL! I'm going to try to get the notebook fixed next week so I can listen properly in the cans. I agree with the bass players comments above. Good job :-)
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ohgrant
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Re:Rocker: forum collab
2012/02/04 18:26:15
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Big thanks to Mark, Rimshot,Paulo, Bapu, and Robby. I will take your mix suggestions under advisement. Glad you liked it.
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Re:Rocker: forum collab
2012/02/04 18:54:54
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Grant, Sounds pretty good to me. Maybe a hair bright but outstanding nonetheless. The peformances are all very good, really like the sound of the keys. A little Deep Purple'ish in spots. Sax fits really well in the mix as well. Good song, really enjoyed it. Regards
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ohgrant
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Re:Rocker: forum collab
2012/02/04 19:05:35
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Thanks Mark, there is an effect I'm using that may be causing it to a bit brighter than planned , I'll be taming that down in the final thanks.
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Re:Rocker: forum collab
2012/02/04 20:48:06
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This is really nice - a hot little tune.
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Re:Rocker: forum collab
2012/02/04 20:50:52
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Awesome players and playing. Really like your voice on this. Organ sound is tremendously dirty! Mix sounds a bit scooped in the mids.
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Re:Rocker: forum collab
2012/02/04 21:07:41
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very cool! I really enjoyed this! I also love your voice on this! and the organ is really great!
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Re:Rocker: forum collab
2012/02/04 21:20:36
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Wow--everyone and everything shines on this one. Fantastic, guys! :)
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Re:Rocker: forum collab
2012/02/05 10:26:41
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Wooooot!!! This is a good one guys. Having Dave on the B3 is always a plus, and he just kills it on this. Nice work on vocals Grant. They are a little bright in spots, but really performed well. Randy
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Re:Rocker: forum collab remix
2012/02/05 10:59:23
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ohgrant Produced by G. Starr co-Producer Ed Kocol (with guidance and support from Danny Danzi who heard at least 10-15 mixes of this and helped me for nearly 2 months) I'm sure you forgot....everyone does...hence why I have a bad name for charging people for stuff. Then they never forget. LOL! :) Just kiddin'! :-Þ This is quite good Grant. Much improved and 100% better than anything I've heard from you. My only two issues with this mix are the crash cymbals that hit smack in the middle of the pan field that seem too loud to me. Ride cymbal hits in the center too, but it's not too loud. Your voice has a bit of an am radio type sound to it. Sort of lo-fi and could use some thickening up. But everything else sounds really good on this. Kick drum could have a bit more low end thud to it...sounds a bit clicky to me. But other than the above, this really turned out great brother. Nice job to all involved. :) -Danny
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ohgrant
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Re:Rocker: forum collab remix
2012/02/05 15:55:26
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Big thanks Mark, James, Reece, Janet, Randy and Danny. Glad you enjoyed. I will work on the vox buss and get that brightness tamed down a bit Randy and Danny, I know the cause. James I'll have a look at the mids and see if I can tame the organ down some Sorry for forgetting to mention you brother Danny, your guidance and that great video you sent on how to set up the separate drum tracks has made a big difference in the workflow here. Thanks for everything bro. I have the cymbals at about 8% right and left, I will pan them a bit more and tame the volume on those thanks. Also forgot to give thanks to Michael (Spacey) from the CH forum, all rhythm guitars were played on a hand made Tele made by Michael. Thanks again everyone, busy work week this week might delay a remix until the end of the week.
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Re:Rocker: forum collab remix
2012/02/05 16:53:05
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I commented on this earlier but it didn't take... I've been having problems with this forum ever since my last Windows 7 IE upgrade... $#@*... rant over... I love this song... wonderful performances... the guitar work is really fine, as is the vocal... did I perceive a bit of vox pitch correction? excellent work by all...
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Re:Rocker: forum collab remix
2012/02/05 17:50:52
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I think it depends on what volume you listen to this song with. Louder seems better, but (and there is always a but I guess) the snare drum did not move me, too dull, and the organ up high was a bit too raspy for me. Other than what was mentioned with the vox (which again to me dependent on volume - up higher it came out better) that about it. A bit on the bright side to me. Not that it sounded bad, but perhaps a bit of tweaking may be needed only according to me. Fine work though to all.
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Re:Rocker: forum collab remix
2012/02/06 11:59:59
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Nice one, Grant. Everyone sounds really good. I would have brought the bass up a tad (LOL), old bass player ears. This one IS a rocker.
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Re:Rocker: forum collab remix
2012/02/06 12:09:55
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Really cool tune. The vocal and instrumental performances are terrific. On my system the mix is well balanced, yet it lacks some drive and punch. I hear it but I don't feel it. That's all, though. Tremendous effort.
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Re:Rocker: forum collab remix
2012/02/06 15:16:38
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Enjoyable tune some cool playing. My only observation the kick is a bit lacking. Thanks for sharing
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Re:Rocker: forum collab remix
2012/02/06 15:20:49
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Great piece of work , sounds really great in my monitor speakers ! Keep rockin out ! Radio
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Re:Rocker: forum collab remix
2012/02/07 10:55:53
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Excellent stuff from all concerned gents
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Re:Rocker: forum collab remix
2012/02/07 11:30:44
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Great piece. I like that the song doesn't feel so cookie-cutter. It reminds me of a cross between Uriah Heep and Duran Duran. Is that even possible? Regards Lance
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Re:Rocker: forum collab remix
2012/02/07 21:14:15
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Big thanks everyone. Sorry so busy this week, I'll be back for more personal thanks and some reviews this weekend. Remix is up. Work done on Kick and snare. Tamed the overheads and panned them. Thanks Randy for the B3 reference. I researched that and worked on Dave's tone. Much more done to it. Thanks again!
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Re:Rocker: forum collab remix
2012/02/07 21:21:52
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Grant, this is very cool - love it.
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Re:Rocker: forum collab remix
2012/02/07 22:01:15
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Now that's a good reimix G. That's a great bass sound you got goin' on now. DO NOT CHANGE IT, pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze?
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Re:Rocker: forum collab remix
2012/02/09 04:01:16
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Hi, Grant, Wow, this is a spectacular and very cool collab! Everybody who participated really showed up with killer performances, and your vocals and guitar work were absolutely outstanding. I missed the first mix, but this sounds great! Dynamite job by everyone involved, nice work guys! Bob
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Re:Rocker: forum collab remix
2012/02/10 13:09:20
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This is really good guys!! Love the chord progression. Tasty playing by all and Ed's bass tone/playing is nice and up front. Nice to hear the classic organ sound too. Well sung Grant! Soon as this song started it had my head swaying back 'n forth. Nice punch and drive that moves it all along! It all sounded good on my system as is.
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Re:Rocker: forum collab remix
2012/02/10 13:24:27
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WOW............... Holy Mackerel Andy. What can I say. Stupendess......
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