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2013/10/20 06:42:38 (permalink)

Roland Audio Drivers Not Compatible With Windows 8.1 All Roland product users

 
Found this out.......
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This is the challenge as Windows 8.1 rolls out across the world.
The device drivers for many popular audio, video and printer devices may not be available. Without a signed 8.1 driver, you are out of luck until the manufacturer releases it.   Update – see below for Roland’s response.
Last year Roland was on the bit with Windows 8.0 drivers and delivered them almost concurrently with Windows 8. Windows 8 shipped on October 26th, 2012 and the Roland drivers on November 2, 2012.
Windows 8 drivers will not work on Windows 8.1 so if you have any of Roland’s audio products you might consider waiting until they are announced.
 
This holds true for any device like a video card or printer as well. If you update too soon, the affected device probably won’t work.
QuestionWhen will the Windows 8.1 64 bit drivers for the UA-25EX be available? The current drivers are signed for Windows 8.0 and Windows 8.1 will not accept them. 
Thank you. Stephen Pate
  AnswerGreetings / Salutations!, 
Thank you for your inquiry. There are currently no drivers available for Windows 8.1 for your UA-25EX. For the latest drivers for your Roland gear keep an eye on the Roland product page:
http://www.roland.com/products/en/index_alpha.html
Best Regards / Sincèrement vôtre, Roland Canada

The list of affected products includes

Roland Octa-Capture

Audio Interface: OCTA-CAPTURE QUAD-CAPTURE TRI-CAPTURE DUO-CAPTURE UA-101 UA-1EX UA-1G UA-25EX UA-4FX
MIDI Interface: UM-ONE UM-1/1EX/1S/1SX/1X UM-1G UM-2/2C/2E/2EX UM-2G UM-3EX UM-3G
MIDI Keyboard Controller: A-49 A-500S
A-PRO series PC-50 PCR-30 PCR-300 PCR-50 PCR-500 PCR-80 PCR-800 PCR-M1 PCR-M30 PCR-M50 PCR-M80
MIDI Sound Module: SD-50 SD-20

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Re: Roland Audio Drivers Not Compatible With Windows 8.1 All Roland product users 2013/10/20 06:50:42 (permalink)
Have a look for the workaround I posted within the VS-700 area of this Forum ...
 
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Re: Roland Audio Drivers Not Compatible With Windows 8.1 All Roland product users 2013/10/20 06:59:34 (permalink)
8.1 drivers were released on Thursday? At least for the octa capture and quad..

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Re: Roland Audio Drivers Not Compatible With Windows 8.1 All Roland product users 2013/10/20 07:07:20 (permalink)
I guess I am most bothered by the lack of reverse functionality of drivers, especially to something as critical as an O/S. Newer versions of software should understand how the last version handled the "same information," especially from 8.0 to 8.1 (most would consider 8.1 a patch to make 8.0 *more* functional).
 
Only an O/S could "get away" with such, but thankfully there is no "requirement" to upgrade.

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Re: Roland Audio Drivers Not Compatible With Windows 8.1 All Roland product users UPDATED 2013/10/20 08:25:31 (permalink)
Yes, Octa-capture was there.thanks for the correction! Also the UA-25EX Win 8.1 Driver WORKS!!! Thanks Roland!!! or Gibson!!! or Cakewalk!!! or Forum!!! or Thanks Everybody!!!
post edited by Rickbass - 2013/10/24 16:17:06

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Re: Roland Audio Drivers Not Compatible With Windows 8.1 All Roland product users 2013/10/20 09:44:33 (permalink)
Roland Fantom G is confirmed not to work currently on 8.1.. suspect this includes other synth's also

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Re: Roland Audio Drivers Not Compatible With Windows 8.1 All Roland product users 2013/10/21 02:32:46 (permalink)
Thanks for the info. This saved me lots of grief.
 
I just had a new "really fast" computer built for Sonar and I specified Windows 8.1, but I use an Edirol/Roland FA-101. I had looked at the Roland site and they support Windows 8. But I never imagined that 8.1 would require new drivers.
 
I banked on using 8.1 because the experience I had with my friend's copy of Windows 8 with no start button was other-worldly, and supposedly 8.1 would be OK for old people like me.
 
I suppose I will have the builder toss out the Windows 8 I licensed and buy a copy of Windows 7.
 
I notice RME has Windows 8.1 drivers for the Multiface. I think I will switch to RME. And make a mental note to never buy another Roland product.
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Re: Roland Audio Drivers Not Compatible With Windows 8.1 All Roland product users 2013/10/21 05:37:44 (permalink)
I would say cut them a little slack!
What has it been since Windows 8.1 launch? Four days?

I did not expect Windows 8.1 to require new drivers either but Roland has been swift to release good, stable drivers before.

Watch these pages to find their future plans:
Windows 8.1 32-bit
http://www.roland.com/support/article/?q=information&id=63060592
Windows 8.1 64-bit
http://www.roland.com/support/article/?q=information&id=63060593

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Re: Roland Audio Drivers Not Compatible With Windows 8.1 All Roland product users 2013/10/21 11:08:50 (permalink)
Who the hell updates the OS on their DAW the same day/week that it is released? I guess I've worked in IT too long, I never do ANY major software updates for "production systems" right when it is released. I always wait at least a few weeks before making any changes to something that is *this* important, especially OS upgrades. MS has no control over 3rd party vendors and when they will release drivers for their hardware. When Windows Vista/7 were released, it took HP months in order to release any drivers for their printers, let alone stable ones.

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Re: Roland Audio Drivers Not Compatible With Windows 8.1 All Roland product users 2013/10/21 11:48:01 (permalink)
well, for non-geeky people, if you believe the hype/marketing, everything just works, no? just because someone's an audio engineer doesn't mean they're a software engineer... i mean, who the hell updates their daw unless it delivers some essential new feature? surely people don't just buy into the latest/greatest for the sake of having the latest/"greatest" eh?
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Re: Roland Audio Drivers Not Compatible With Windows 8.1 All Roland product users 2013/10/21 11:54:57 (permalink)
Digital console VS-700C and the guitar Synthesizer VG-99 are also not working.
The workarounds (editing the .inf files) do not work with the final 8.1.
We have to wait for the final drivers.
 
 

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Re: Roland Audio Drivers Not Compatible With Windows 8.1 All Roland product users 2013/10/21 14:33:23 (permalink)
lawp
... i mean, who the hell updates their daw unless it delivers some essential new feature? surely people don't just buy into the latest/greatest for the sake of having the latest/"greatest" eh?



Not in the middle of a project or with a deadline looming!   That's not software geekiness, just practical business sense.  
 
Otherwise... go for it!  Assuming you've at least Googled to see what you can expect.  That part is more along the lines of common sense.
 
 
 
 
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Re: Roland Audio Drivers Not Compatible With Windows 8.1 All Roland product users 2013/10/21 15:33:04 (permalink)
roland has a care of duty regarding their drivers for a certain period.. I may look into taking legal action for breach of contract, since the interface I bought is not even 5 years old, if this is the case.. there is such a thing as a "legacy period" regardless of if they own cakewalk or not.
 
 
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Re: Roland Audio Drivers Not Compatible With Windows 8.1 All Roland product users 2013/10/21 16:29:55 (permalink)
AFAIK, there wasn't any change in the audio system from Windows 7 to 8.0 and 8.1...
 
If this is true, than the only thing in my mind that could be an issue is if Microsoft requires re-certification of drivers due to a new signing certificate for Windows 8/8.1 - which means Microsoft is probably swamped with vendor driver submissions to be tested, certified, and signed...
 
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Re: Roland Audio Drivers Not Compatible With Windows 8.1 All Roland product users 2013/10/21 17:51:41 (permalink)
Nothing still for my UA-101 :-(

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Re: Roland Audio Drivers Not Compatible With Windows 8.1 All Roland product users 2013/10/21 19:13:42 (permalink)
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Re: Roland Audio Drivers Not Compatible With Windows 8.1 All Roland product users 2013/10/21 22:14:49 (permalink)
For those who have Win 8.1 and a PCR-300/-500/-800 keyboard, the Win 8.1 driver was added to the Roland site today. Just installed it and my PCR-800 keyboard and all ACT controller functions are working great in X3.


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Re: Roland Audio Drivers Not Compatible With Windows 8.1 All Roland product users 2013/10/22 03:17:55 (permalink)
This morning I woke to find UA101 and UA25 drivers for 8.1 have now been released.

The next question is, do I upgrade?

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Re: Roland Audio Drivers Not Compatible With Windows 8.1 All Roland product users 2013/10/22 03:18:01 (permalink)
This morning I woke to find UA101 and UA25 drivers for 8.1 have now been released.

The next question is, do I upgrade?

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Re: Roland Audio Drivers Not Compatible With Windows 8.1 All Roland product users 2013/10/22 03:18:06 (permalink)
This morning I woke to find UA101 and UA25 drivers for 8.1 have now been released.

The next question is, do I upgrade?

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Re: Roland Audio Drivers Not Compatible With Windows 8.1 All Roland product users 2013/10/22 03:18:05 (permalink)
This morning I woke to find UA101 and UA25 drivers for 8.1 have now been released.

The next question is, do I upgrade?

Win 8 x64
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Re: Roland Audio Drivers Not Compatible With Windows 8.1 All Roland product users 2013/10/22 03:18:05 (permalink)
This morning I woke to find UA101 and UA25 drivers for 8.1 have now been released.

The next question is, do I upgrade?

Win 8 x64
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Edirol UA-101
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Re: Roland Audio Drivers Not Compatible With Windows 8.1 All Roland product users 2013/10/22 03:18:12 (permalink)
This morning I woke to find UA101 and UA25 drivers for 8.1 have now been released.

The next question is, do I upgrade?

Win 8 x64
Sonar X3b Producer X64
Edirol UA-101
BCF2000 
A-Pro 500
Roland TD-6KV
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Re: Roland Audio Drivers Not Compatible With Windows 8.1 All Roland product users 2013/10/22 03:19:43 (permalink)
Ugh sorry for the multitude post.

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Re: Roland Audio Drivers Not Compatible With Windows 8.1 All Roland product users 2013/10/22 11:46:41 (permalink)
Well I for one am very happy to see that Roland stayed on top of things and released updated drivers for their audio devices.  I can now update to Windows 8.1 and use my Octa-Capture without shedding a tear.
 
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Re: Roland Audio Drivers Not Compatible With Windows 8.1 All Roland product users 2013/10/22 11:56:27 (permalink)
Headline for this thread is no longer accurate and should be updated.

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Re: Roland Audio Drivers Not Compatible With Windows 8.1 All Roland product users 2013/10/22 13:14:40 (permalink)
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Who the hell updates the OS on their DAW the same day/week that it is released?

I'm not on the Windows 8 train right now, but when I heard 8.1 was released - my assumption was that it was just a service pack - not a new OS. Those types of updates are usually safe, and I would do them in a heartbeat. It would have been a wrong assumption, and shame on me - but I'm sure many people thought it to be similar.
 
The real shame is that device manufacturers have to re-write drivers every time Microsoft sneezes! Fundamentally this is still Windows 8 - new drivers SHOULD NOT be required for every device connected to your system.

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Re: Roland Audio Drivers Not Compatible With Windows 8.1 All Roland product users 2013/10/22 13:33:34 (permalink)
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Headline for this thread is no longer accurate and should be updated.


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Re: Roland Audio Drivers Not Compatible With Windows 8.1 All Roland product users 2013/10/22 18:35:28 (permalink)
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Who the hell updates the OS on their DAW the same day/week that it is released?

I'm not on the Windows 8 train right now, but when I heard 8.1 was released - my assumption was that it was just a service pack - not a new OS. Those types of updates are usually safe, and I would do them in a heartbeat. It would have been a wrong assumption, and shame on me - but I'm sure many people thought it to be similar.
 
The real shame is that device manufacturers have to re-write drivers every time Microsoft sneezes! Fundamentally this is still Windows 8 - new drivers SHOULD NOT be required for every device connected to your system.




You're right, it shouldn't be required. Like most other companies drivers just work in 8.1.
Roland should have had these drivers ready months ago when the preview release was out.
All they had to do was change 2 lines of code to make the driver 8.1 compatible.
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Re: Roland Audio Drivers Not Compatible With Windows 8.1 All Roland product users 2013/10/22 18:46:15 (permalink)
Roland took less than a week to fix this.
Even Microsoft is having issues with 8.1

If you are an early adopter you are effectively a beta tester whether you like it or not. This goes for pretty much any software nowadays.... Get used to it or stick with the previous release for another 3 to 6 months. For instance I will still be running on X2 until the end of the year at least. Waiting until X3G comes out :)

BTW professional IT support companies audit machines and do their research before they upgrade them so they don't get caught out on compatibility... Assumptions of any sort are generally a dangerous thing...

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