Roland Electric Kit, triggering Superior drummer in X2

Hi,Whack. I'm a SD2 user myself. Yes, you will have to map your roland pads to trigger a certain note in SD2. This could be time consuming but the notes in SD2 have to match whatever midi note vakue you are sending it. I have noticed some GM midi notes match right out of the box. You could find out the model number of your kit and do a search on the net for a drum map for your particular kit. You may get lucky. Otherwise, take a look at SD2 Mapping screen and write down which drum or cymbal is on what key. Then go into the edit menu on your Roland kit and match the output notes to those keys. Pretty simple, but takes a little time.

Thanks sidroe, I understand that the drum your hitting on your kit must match the correct sound in SD2. Did you have to install software for the kit on your computer or can you just plug midi, its recognised and then select within sonar? Where does the Roland menu come up for you?

thanks ptheisen, can you post a link from the website, cant find it here at moment, is it the forums you got it from?

I presume once it is configured within SD2, a simple softsynth instrument track within sonar will suffice?

Cian

I'm afraid I don't know how to actually do a link, but I just went here: http://www.toontrack.com/products.asp?item=30 where there is a list of videos,and clicked on the one labeled MAPPING. It mentions the presets at the end. It doesn't go into detail, I'm just assuming that SD2 must do what most of the other drum VSTs do. Maybe Sidroe can elaborate. An instrument track should work fine, the Roland will probably default to output on midi channel 10, so make sure that SD2 is coordinated that way.

Hey whack - I saw that you may have a need for a drum map.  I don't know if it will necessarily get you what you want, but I have a tutorial about how to create drum maps in Sonar on my site.  I use a VDrums kit (TD-20 - the higher end), but the concept is the same for all.

Check it out if you have a few minutes to watch/listen: http://www.blades85.com/ and look on the Music/Sonar page under specific topics.

Let me know if this helps, please.

Sorry,it took so long to get back. In SD2 there is the mapping tab in the left top corner of the construct page. Click there and the mapper comes up. You should see the presets tab over the keyboard. Click there and you will find options for some other maps. Try some of those. I have really gotten lucky with my tracks because I tend to keep the same mapping as GM. This has worked out great for me, other than the octave adjustment I posted. Did you load Toontrack Solo on your computer? That is a very handy program. It allows you to pull up SD2 as a stand-alone instrument without using Sonar as a host. You can edit your map either with the mapping page or simply edit the midi notes in the lower right corner of the construct page. Be sure to save your kit once you get what you want. I don't use drum pads to program. I do all my own custom drum tracks using the staff view for step writing and an M-Audio Keystation 88 Pro.

whack


Ok, so Ive searched a little for this and couldnt find the exact mechanisms of it within sonar

Can anyone point me a link where I can do this effectively or from experience could someone give some details/advice.

I have to arrive somewhere and get this recorded so I dont really have time to fool around beforehand with equipment and options.

The kit is a roland (not sure which model but certainly not the higher end ones) and I'm looking to record a drummer along with a vocalsit/guitarist. So I need to record the kit via MIDI and then use SD2 samples. Am I correct in saying that I will need to create a drum map??

Thanks,

Cian

Superior Drummer has a "Learn" key on the bottom right hand side of the screen. You highlight a the drum sound you want. Then click" learn." Then tap the part of your roland drum kit you want that sound to be link to. Once you get your entire kit set up you can save that drum set with the triggers youve just programmed. Just make yourself a location to save them in.  I have many kits saved that way with two different kits from a yamaha dx kit and a roland kit.
 
Works pretty good and easier than going through all that drum mapping. I can set up a kit in a minute.
 
Good Luck,
 
Mooch

I'm not really directly familiar with the SD2 program, but if it works like other mapping that I've seen, it works for some things, like making the right notes trigger the right notes in the sampler, but miss on some other things that the Sonar drum maps provide - if nothing else, a much better view in the piano roll for dealing with drum tracks, programmed or played.  Please take a look at the videos and at least have it as one your options.