MysticMizer
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Roland Groovesynth
Can someone please explain this synth to me?
I'm not quite sure I get it, and the manual of course is pretty lean in the explaination department.
It seems like just a basic stripped down synth module to me...what's the skinny on it? how are folks using it? Why is it called "Groove Synth?"
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RE: Roland Groovesynth
2006/03/20 12:59:02
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The roland groovesynth is pretty much how you describe it. You would need to check with roland as to why its called Groovesynth since Im sure that they named it.
Its most likely my least used synth ( that is I have never used it to date except to get a quick sound).
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RE: Roland Groovesynth
2006/03/20 13:04:12
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Hmm thank's for the relpy. With a name like Groove synth one would think it would generate arpeggios or rhythmic accompaniment.....maybe I'm missing something.
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RE: Roland Groovesynth
2006/03/20 13:43:12
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Hi I've used it for drums. It has some nice 808 type sounds.. 1  can't type cant spell
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RE: Roland Groovesynth
2006/03/20 13:46:51
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RE: Roland Groovesynth
2006/03/20 14:22:41
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The Roland Groovesynth is useful (to me) as a "filler synth", to make sounds and noises that become part of the rhythm or background of a tune. It is also useful to double some instruments with "milder" sounds. There are some overused and cheesy sounds in there but I like to explore the whole keyboard range: something that may sound cheesy in the middle range, may sound dark and atmospheric 3 or 4 octaves below, or bleepy and percussive 4 octaves above. And yes, the drum sounds are quite usable.
Keep in mind that the Groovesynth has no internal FX so its sounds may seem a bit uninteresting at first, but can come to life once you add some fx.
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RE: Roland Groovesynth
2006/03/20 14:49:07
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its sounds may seem a bit uninteresting at first, but can come to life once you add some fx. Clear!  Just kidding, Alfonso. A little. 
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RE: Roland Groovesynth
2006/03/20 20:37:56
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Also, have a go tweaking the envelope, filters and the "Character" knob.
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RE: Roland Groovesynth
2006/03/20 20:57:14
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Yea, it is a basic S&S softsynth. There isn't much control, but it has some nice sounds for temp work in a song, although I have been known to leave them in. The drum and rhythm Roland stuff is pretty good, and, like others have said, you can throw on all kinds of effects.
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RE: Roland Groovesynth
2006/03/20 20:57:47
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RE: Roland Groovesynth
2006/03/20 23:17:17
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I use it for Piano sounds sometimes if processor availability is low. Add some after effects Reverb and it sounds ok.
Like others have said its good for drums.
Now here is the hidden use that many are not mentioning, its great for playing prefab midi files, since the instruments are the ones from GM midi. I usually use TTS-1 instead. I personally feel the sounds are a bit better on that then they are on the Roland Groove synth
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RE: Roland Groovesynth
2006/03/21 00:20:09
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Does anyone else find this contraption very low, volume-wise? Sometimes I have to max out the track volume, synth volume, and even note velocity, too, just to get it to sound as loud as any other normal track instrument at 0 or even -5 dB.
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RE: Roland Groovesynth
2006/03/21 00:34:03
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Does anyone else find this contraption very low, volume-wise? Here! Here! I find RGS very good for layering w/all of those fancy online download softsynths available. have a good one 3Eo
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RE: Roland Groovesynth
2006/03/21 02:26:57
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ORIGINAL: oroboros
Does anyone else find this contraption very low, volume-wise? Sometimes I have to max out the track volume, synth volume, and even note velocity, too, just to get it to sound as loud as any other normal track instrument at 0 or even -5 dB.
Can't recall if I've ever noticed this but a good way to deal with the problem is to throw a comp/limiter on it (i.e. Sonitus etc...)
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RE: Roland Groovesynth
2006/03/21 10:09:43
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Can't recall if I've ever noticed this but a good way to deal with the problem is to throw a comp/limiter on it (i.e. Sonitus etc...)
Did it just last night and all was good. Spinal Tap style I rode the fader to eleven. have a good one 3Eo
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MysticMizer
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RE: Roland Groovesynth
2006/03/28 13:14:25
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People are quick to dismiss something that doesn't give "instantaneous" results or "automatic" inspiration.
Sad really. No clue where that came from...but whatever.... Anyway if I want to throw to together a quick template I think I'll stick with the TTS-1. This unit does nothing for me.
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RE: Roland Groovesynth
2006/03/28 14:07:59
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ORIGINAL: fac
The Roland Groovesynth is useful (to me) as a "filler synth", to make sounds and noises that become part of the rhythm or background of a tune. This is also how I use it. It's also nice when you're running out of cpu headroom. I recently swapped out a voice that I was previously covering with reaktor and replaced it with groovesynth (seriously). Recouped about 15-20% of the cpu. The part was sort of a background rythm part and didn't need to be of the utmost quality. In fact the cheesy lo fi sound from groovesynth actually fit what I was doing. eric
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RE: Roland Groovesynth
2006/03/28 19:25:12
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ORIGINAL: MysticMizer
People are quick to dismiss something that doesn't give "instantaneous" results or "automatic" inspiration.
Sad really.
No clue where that came from...but whatever....
Anyway if I want to throw to together a quick template I think I'll stick with the TTS-1.
This unit does nothing for me.
Oh Mystic...I wasn't referring to you actually, this topic has come up before on multiple occassions and it seems like it was always getting bashed.
Check out this little clip and tell me that lead synth ISN'T just as commercially viable as anything else you've heard!
Groovesynth Makes A Great Trance Lead!!
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RE: Roland Groovesynth
2009/01/02 22:24:21
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ORIGINAL: MysticMizer
With a name like Groove synth one would think it would generate arpeggios or rhythmic accompaniment.....maybe I'm missing something.
Yes. Precisely why I'm bringing this old thread back to life. Scrolling with my right hand reading this thread while kicking out a killer groove with my left hand (triggering Groovesynth set t o patch: TR-909), I wonder.. There has got to be a way to make and capture grooves easily, like the way it was done with the actual TR-909 hardware. Really, where's the rhythmic sequencer component? How does one make old school grooves with Groovesynth? I'd like to to be able to quickly and efficiently whip up keeper rhythms with Groovesynth. Leonard (reg. Sonar 7 PE user)
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RE: Roland Groovesynth
2009/01/03 10:06:46
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how about the step sequencer in Sonar? It seems to me like your best bet for some oldschool sequencing.
or P5's step sequencer
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RE: Roland Groovesynth
2009/01/03 16:00:59
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ORIGINAL: Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk]
ORIGINAL: oroboros
Does anyone else find this contraption very low, volume-wise? Sometimes I have to max out the track volume, synth volume, and even note velocity, too, just to get it to sound as loud as any other normal track instrument at 0 or even -5 dB.
Can't recall if I've ever noticed this but a good way to deal with the problem is to throw a comp/limiter on it (i.e. Sonitus etc...)
How times have changed... this topic must have been moved. No look-in by Cake on the P5 forum these days...... 
post edited by Prevalence - 2009/01/03 17:54:22
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RE: Roland Groovesynth
2009/01/04 20:25:16
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ORIGINAL: badbib
how about the step sequencer in Sonar? It seems to me like your best bet for some oldschool sequencing.
or P5's step sequencer
or synchron32 midi effect (box version only I think)
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RE: Roland Groovesynth
2009/01/27 23:50:57
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How do you play MIDI files through the Roland Groove Synth? ORIGINAL: whitefalcon
I use it for Piano sounds sometimes if processor availability is low. Add some after effects Reverb and it sounds ok.
Like others have said its good for drums.
Now here is the hidden use that many are not mentioning, its great for playing prefab midi files, since the instruments are the ones from GM midi. I usually use TTS-1 instead. I personally feel the sounds are a bit better on that then they are on the Roland Groove synth
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RE: Roland Groovesynth
2009/01/28 14:44:00
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How do you play MIDI files through the Roland Groove Synth?
ORIGINAL: whitefalcon
I use it for Piano sounds sometimes if processor availability is low. Add some after effects Reverb and it sounds ok.
Like others have said its good for drums.
Now here is the hidden use that many are not mentioning, its great for playing prefab midi files, since the instruments are the ones from GM midi. I usually use TTS-1 instead. I personally feel the sounds are a bit better on that then they are on the Roland Groove synth
Launch Project5 then go to "File | Import" and select the MIDI file you want to play. Once the MIDI file is loaded and tracks are available in the project, go to each track and perform a "Replace Instrument" action selecting the Grove Synth as the soft synth. Hit play when you are ready to hear the song rendered through Groove Synth.
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