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RE: Roland/Cakewalk hardware revealed! V-Studio 700 (Pics + video) 2008/10/03 15:53:09 (permalink)
Hello Everyone,

Just to clear up a few things:

* SONAR V-Studio 700 is not shipping until Q1, 2009.
* SONAR 8 customers who purchase SONAR V-Studio 700 will be eligible for a rebate.
* SONAR V-Studio is designed as a complete solution. It will not be sold seperately.
* SONAR V-Studio has native support for VST effects & instruments, and ReWire devices. You can add thousands of virtual instruments and effects to your system.
* SONAR V-Studio can switch functionality to control any V-Link compatible video and image hardware including the Edirol DV-7 line of direct linear video editing systems.
* It is a full featured control surface with unlimited tracks, inserts, effects, and busses / extensive I/O / ACT hands-on control / video intergration / etc.

We will be updating the SONAR V-Studio 700 website with the latest information!
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RE: Roland/Cakewalk hardware revealed! V-Studio 700 (Pics + video) 2008/10/03 16:00:37 (permalink)
Bravo! Very nice Cake! I especially like the ability to destroy Alderon if/when needed.
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RE: Roland/Cakewalk hardware revealed! V-Studio 700 (Pics + video) 2008/10/03 16:19:09 (permalink)
While I realize this is an all in one solution, with all the other products out there, doesn't $4000.00 seem high for this product?
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RE: Roland/Cakewalk hardware revealed! V-Studio 700 (Pics + video) 2008/10/03 16:21:07 (permalink)
It's just about everything that you could have imagined a merger of Cakewalk and Roland would produce. I'm very impressed. I'm glad I haven't updated to Sonar 8 yet. I wish I didn't already own Dimension Pro and Rapture. I think that it's actually worth the price tag when you look at what a tremendous system this is. Pro Tools can eat my ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Cakewalk and Roland have truly outdone themselves with this product.

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RE: Roland/Cakewalk hardware revealed! V-Studio 700 (Pics + video) 2008/10/03 16:41:17 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: KateWatt
* SONAR V-Studio is designed as a complete solution. It will not be sold seperately.


Yes, it seems like a very elegant setup. Yes, it's obviously designed as Complete Solution. But I must say that categorically ruling out some version of the control surface being made available to those of us who don't want to spend that much scratch on something that seems modular but isn't, including a major investment in a synth we may not actually want, and demands that we replace existing IO that we may actually be happy with, seems pretty short-sighted to me. It seems like an unnecessary limiting of the potential customer base.

However, Brandon's parting words in the Sonic State video give us cause to hope that there may be other 'versions' of the concept in the works. For now, although this particular product definitely looks the business (and perhaps that is as much as anything the idea here), I won't be buying one in the foreseeable future - barring some unexpected windfall. Oh well.

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RE: Roland/Cakewalk hardware revealed! V-Studio 700 (Pics + video) 2008/10/03 17:10:52 (permalink)
Cakewalk might have picked a better Audio Interface Unit picture....seeing that the back of the audio interrace units power cord port is slightly slanted. Does this equal quality?

http://www.musicradar.com/news/tech/exclusive-cakewalk-and-roland-launch-v-studio-700-176068
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RE: Roland/Cakewalk hardware revealed! V-Studio 700 (Pics + video) 2008/10/03 17:13:26 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: gtgarner

Cakewalk might have picked a better Audio Interface Unit picture....seeing that the back of the audio interrace units power cord port is slightly slanted. Does this equal quality?

http://www.musicradar.com/news/tech/exclusive-cakewalk-and-roland-launch-v-studio-700-176068

Man, talk about desperately looking for something to be critical of.

I don't like the orange colour on the website, myself. Amateurs!
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RE: Roland/Cakewalk hardware revealed! V-Studio 700 (Pics + video) 2008/10/03 17:23:23 (permalink)
Like I said, the V-Studio it's definitely a step in the right direction, it's impressive and IMHO I would also like to see a scale down version along the lines of the AlphaTrack! Ya know? just the console (no multiple i/o) but with included quick access to SONAR menus and a fader.

I haven't got S8 yet but will get it later after I get ahead of my medical bills, and as for the V-Studio package it's a little too expensive. Basically The new V-Studio is an all in one solution to give ProTools stiff competition. For others on a low budget! Ha! I'll settle for the S8 and the AlphaTrack deal instead. Anyway! That's MHO!! Thank you and good night!
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RE: Roland/Cakewalk hardware revealed! V-Studio 700 (Pics + video) 2008/10/03 17:46:33 (permalink)
And to think I just bought a DM-4800. Looks like a great system. I wonder if it will control Nuendo. I'm in the situation where I would like to just be using Sonar but it still lacks the some of the video features I need. I'm glad to see that Roland is taking cakewalk seriously. I would love to see them offer something like this as just a control surface and with at least 24 faders.

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RE: Roland/Cakewalk hardware revealed! V-Studio 700 (Pics + video) 2008/10/03 20:38:42 (permalink)
This is a big surprize, but I think a lot of users were expecting this to happen sooner or later (now that Roland has taken such a large interest in Cakewalk). I was hoping that the big announcement would be that mysterious new monster synth Cakewalk mentioned long ago. "A hardware synth," I thought... why not. Well, at least this new control surface comes with Fantom. I dig the Fantom synth, particularily those kickin pads on the upper right... and it sounds cool too. I think this control surface is cool and it has more controls than I would expect, nice to see a joystick. Just where are those little pads??? Just kidding. This system does look killer.

So progress has taken place... what's next? And where's Brandon to defend against the nay sayers?

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RE: Roland/Cakewalk hardware revealed! V-Studio 700 (Pics + video) 2008/10/03 20:52:47 (permalink)
Brandon, at AES showing off the goods I bet.

Man the unit is sweet, but out of my league. Hope they do come out with just the control surface version next year.

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RE: Roland/Cakewalk hardware revealed! V-Studio 700 (Pics + video) 2008/10/03 22:22:22 (permalink)
This is huge! And a very smart move.



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RE: Roland/Cakewalk hardware revealed! V-Studio 700 (Pics + video) 2008/10/03 22:37:35 (permalink)
yep tis a winner I want one
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RE: Roland/Cakewalk hardware revealed! V-Studio 700 (Pics + video) 2008/10/03 22:39:22 (permalink)

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Good to see that the all new Sonar 8 "real" PAUSE button has made it into the interface.

(NOT!)

Man, this place is a tough crowd.

How would you implement a pause button?

Here's how I'd do it. When playback is happening, PLAY doesn't actually do anything. So I have this button state going spare: "Someone has pressed the PLAY button during playback". I'd map PAUSE to that. And I'll bet you a million dollars that's exactly what they've done.


Yup, that's right. Now, if I just had a million dollars ...
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RE: Roland/Cakewalk hardware revealed! V-Studio 700 (Pics + video) 2008/10/03 22:39:47 (permalink)
I'm gonna post my $0.02 without reading the whole thread. I'll read it later. But...

Great job Cakewalk/Roland. The whole system looks really well thought out. It seems like you didn't follow any of the other control surfaces out there but rather made an original.

The only down side I see is, only 8 ins for the interface. Yeah, you could run 8 more using the ADAT, but it would have been nice to leave an bay for optional I/Os. Most people doing live tracking are going to need more. Say for instance, drums alone could easily use 10 mics.
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RE: Roland/Cakewalk hardware revealed! V-Studio 700 (Pics + video) 2008/10/03 22:54:28 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: gtgarner

Cakewalk might have picked a better Audio Interface Unit picture....seeing that the back of the audio interrace units power cord port is slightly slanted. Does this equal quality?

http://www.musicradar.com/news/tech/exclusive-cakewalk-and-roland-launch-v-studio-700-176068



Hey cut us some slack :) THis isn't shipping till Q1 09. You're looking at a hand tooled pre production prototype in that photo.
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RE: Roland/Cakewalk hardware revealed! V-Studio 700 (Pics + video) 2008/10/03 22:57:44 (permalink)

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Looks really really good but let's get down to business... How good are the mic pres? What's the specs on I/O? What is the on-board DSP? Hopefully they took a step or two forward in these areas also.



The mic pres and converters are the best that Roland has. These are the same converters and pres found in the digital snake and V-mixer. Both of those have gotten very favorable reviews.
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RE: Roland/Cakewalk hardware revealed! V-Studio 700 (Pics + video) 2008/10/03 23:01:40 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: AT

A couple of points:

looks like a really, really nice controller for SONAR and synths. I would hope that it could also be used in conjunction with other Daws, tho that is not such an issue for me (except for P5). I would think that it would do mackie etc. emulation.

I'm not sure if the Fantom is standard. On the product site they list other boards that plug into a slot. I would think the Fantom could be an option - unless the slot is a spare. I'd love to see the V-synth added, in keeping with the V motif (pun intended).



The controller will work with aother daws via mackie emulation. Of course there are some features thaat are specific to this SONAR V-Studio system though that will not be accessible in other daws.

SONAR V-Studio 700 has the Fantom VS integrated into the VS700R IO, so it is standard with teh system. The ARX slot gives you options to add other Roland ARX Supernatural boards for additional synthesis options.
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RE: Roland/Cakewalk hardware revealed! V-Studio 700 (Pics + video) 2008/10/03 23:03:01 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: vojx

there's no PAUSE button

The play button is multifunctional and acts as a pause button
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RE: Roland/Cakewalk hardware revealed! V-Studio 700 (Pics + video) 2008/10/03 23:06:52 (permalink)

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There is mention of a second interface that stacks I wander if you can buy that on its own (its has double the inputs and no V Synth) instead of the V Synth one.



The second interface is an additional VS-700R. So you get the increased IO, plus an additonal Fantom VS, and an additional ARX slot.

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RE: Roland/Cakewalk hardware revealed! V-Studio 700 (Pics + video) 2008/10/03 23:10:10 (permalink)
OK, one more critique.

Do you have to manually switch the sample rate on the front of the I/O? What does Roland have agains soft switching. Will you be unable to open multiple projects with differnt sample rates?

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RE: Roland/Cakewalk hardware revealed! V-Studio 700 (Pics + video) 2008/10/03 23:10:12 (permalink)

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ORIGINAL: gtgarner

Cakewalk might have picked a better Audio Interface Unit picture....seeing that the back of the audio interrace units power cord port is slightly slanted. Does this equal quality?

http://www.musicradar.com/news/tech/exclusive-cakewalk-and-roland-launch-v-studio-700-176068



Hey cut us some slack :) THis isn't shipping till Q1 09. You're looking at a hand tooled pre production prototype in that photo.



I was just joking........ Great product!!!!!!
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RE: Roland/Cakewalk hardware revealed! V-Studio 700 (Pics + video) 2008/10/03 23:10:41 (permalink)

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It says it includes SONAR 8, yeah? Does anyone think the console might be available standalone for those that already own SONAR 8?


SONAR V-Studio 700 was designed as a complete system and the Controller is not being made available separately.

If you do already own SONAR 8 you will be eligible for a $200 rebate off the complete system.
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RE: Roland/Cakewalk hardware revealed! V-Studio 700 (Pics + video) 2008/10/03 23:12:02 (permalink)
Original: WDI

OK, one more critique.

Do you have to manually switch the sample rate on the front of the I/O? What does Roland have agains soft switching. Will you be unable to open multiple projects with differnt sample rates?


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RE: Roland/Cakewalk hardware revealed! V-Studio 700 (Pics + video) 2008/10/03 23:12:27 (permalink)

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It says it includes SONAR 8, yeah? Does anyone think the console might be available standalone for those that already own SONAR 8?


SONAR V-Studio 700 was designed as a complete system and the Controller is not being made available separately.

If you do already own SONAR 8 you will be eligible for a $200 rebate off the complete system.


Thats good to know. It's getting better and better.
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RE: Roland/Cakewalk hardware revealed! V-Studio 700 (Pics + video) 2008/10/03 23:19:28 (permalink)
I think this will be a hit, for some..

For me though, its way too expensive, and I bet for others....thats not a criticism, its an observation.

I already have, external mic pres (great river) AD convertor (RME), and I have a little alphatrack, a Mackie Big knob....and an Edirol PCR-M30....so I have
all the bases covered essentially for what this provides...

I think, personally, that having Mic Pre's A/D convertors, in the unit, is not such a bonus, but I can certainly see a reason for some to see it.

I imagine it will sell great, and also be worth next to nothing in a few years time, which is cool....8)...

I would be interested in a "controller" only version of the product at a more modest price point...

I live in Australia and that 4000USD price, is going to be nearly 60000USD here, because of the horrendous mark up that the dealers here impose...

Thats serious dollars, and the audio side of the controller would have to be something very very special, in terms of pre amp quality to justify its purchase..


Still, i think its a great idea, and if the preamps, A/D quality, and most importantly, the actual stablity of the product (remember Houston...8)...) is as advertised,
its a great alternative to something like the digidesign 003 etc....

If money were no object.....8)


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RE: Roland/Cakewalk hardware revealed! V-Studio 700 (Pics + video) 2008/10/03 23:20:44 (permalink)
Yea, Marketing, I saw those facts afterwards in the several videos. It is kinda like my kids christmas today, with some presents opening at home, others at the folks then in-laws.

It looks like a really well done job. We won't know until after christmas, tho, how much.

I'm not wild about the fantom - would rather have the v-synth. Maybe for the expansion slot. I saw some announcement about the boards, but can't track it down.

No doubt if it is a big success we''ll see spin offs of the hardware. Interesting times.

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RE: Roland/Cakewalk hardware revealed! V-Studio 700 (Pics + video) 2008/10/13 04:23:32 (permalink)
In relation to my previous post I'm very glad to see this cool looking device will run in HUI mode so it can be used as a Control Surface with other programs (Pro Tools, Logic, Cubase, Reaper, etc)

Of course, many of the Sonar specific functions won't work in other programs, but that is a limitation with obvious necessity and it gives me no second thoughts.

VERY COOL!!!

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RE: Roland/Cakewalk hardware revealed! V-Studio 700 (Pics + video) 2008/10/13 06:03:09 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: Wiz

I live in Australia and that 4000USD price, is going to be nearly 60000USD here, because of the horrendous mark up that the dealers here impose...



WOW!!!! A markup of 56000USD

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RE: Roland/Cakewalk hardware revealed! V-Studio 700 (Pics + video) 2008/10/13 07:51:03 (permalink)

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They should have added DSP cards!



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ORIGINAL: SongCraft

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They should have added DSP cards!


+1

Yes! I think for price not only a DSP card slot but also a VST host option for synths n effects would have been ideal. Taking the load off the PC then being able to run SONAR on portable rackmount PC or laptop. Maybe that will come in the next wave of Cakewalk by Roland hardware control surfaces.





ORIGINAL: John T

Outboard DSP for plug ins is starting to feel like an antiquated solution to me. Why spring for CPU horsepower that's locked in a box for a single purpose, when you can get the same additional horsepower in your computer cheaper, and use it for whatever purpose a given project needs? The economics of it have really stopped making sense in the last year or so.



That should be requisite nowadays. I dont feel its antiquated , but rather an old idea that should be implemented in any similar product that will be shipping in the near future..............sort of like arpeggios for keyboards.

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