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2012/02/12 09:37:39 (permalink)

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I recently purchased a Casio wk-200 with mc5.I believe I downloaded the right soft from the casio site to make it compatable with mc5.The keyboard is recognized as midi input out put by mc5 ,but when I hit the keys no sound.Any help/suggestions are appreciated.Please/thanks.
 
 
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    57Gregy
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    Re:Rookie 2012/02/12 11:14:39 (permalink)
    Welcome to the forum.
    You connected the MIDI cables correctly (in to out, out to in)? If it's a USB cable, forget this question.
    Did you set the input, output, channel and patch in the MIDI track you're playing into/recording on?
    The keyboard isn't making any sound? It should, whether it's connected to a computer or not.
     
     

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    Re:Rookie 2012/02/12 11:40:02 (permalink)
    Patch MIDI track you're playing into?The keyboard makes sound(works fine),but not showing any proof on cpu screen like if I try and play something while record button is pressed nothing records.I want to make music.
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    Re:Rookie 2012/02/12 11:41:37 (permalink)
    How do you have the keyboard connected to the computer?

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    Re:Rookie 2012/02/12 11:42:51 (permalink)
    I'm preety sure I did that by going into pref right?
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    Re:Rookie 2012/02/12 11:44:42 (permalink)
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    Re:Rookie 2012/02/12 12:06:07 (permalink)
    Each track you record on has to have an input and output set. With MIDI tracks (you are trying to record MIDI in a MIDI track, right?) you also need to select which input channel you're recording from (or MIDI Omni), which channel MC transmits on, and what patch (instrument sound) you want to hear. And when recording MIDI, you probably won't see the CPU meter move at all.
    I suggest you read the Getting Started section of the help files and do the tutorials if you haven't already. Lots of info in there to help you get started.
    But selecting the correct settings in the track panes (MIDI or audio) is necessary to record and hear anything.

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    Re:Rookie 2012/02/12 12:15:19 (permalink)
    Good stuff sounds like I have alot to learn.(sounds like a foreign language  hints the subject rookie) thank you for taking time out of your day to help.I'm sure I'll be back.
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    Re:Rookie 2012/02/12 12:38:31 (permalink)
    Yeah, there is some setting-up to do and getting familiar with all the terms, buttons and functions, but once the basics are conquered, it's easy.
    If you're using the computer's sound card, you might want to start putting a little money away to buy an audio interface designed for recording. The biggest stumbling block to making music on the computer is the stock sound cards, which are not made to handle all the data that moves through them when you're running lots of tracks, effects and software synthesizers.
    Good luck, and feel free to ask questions if you have problems.

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    Re:Rookie 2012/02/12 13:14:35 (permalink)
    MIDI can be a bit confusing to new comers..... you need to learn about soft synths and once you get the hang of it, it does become a bit easier to work with. 

    It becomes indespensible. 

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    Re:Rookie 2012/02/12 16:01:53 (permalink)
    If you want to record directly the Casio sounds to computer, you must use Casios audio out-conntction to your soundcards audio in. The USB cable can't do it, most likely.

    If you use USB-cable MIDI:
    MIDI has no sound, it's like digital sheet music. If you record the MIDI on a MIDI track in MC, you then need to route that MIDI out to Casio in order make Casio play that "sheet music" with it's built in sounds (IF Casios USB driver allows thas). Then, to record your melody as audio you need to use the audio connection as mentioned above.

    You can also route the MIDI you've recorded to a soft synth inside MC (I don't know which soft synths MC includes) and use that to play your composition.

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    Re:Rookie 2012/02/15 13:28:52 (permalink)
    Alrighty then,now that I've found a couple of ways to record and actually hear what i'm playing another problem.When I create a new song in MIDI and record, it's not recording all the notes.It's skipping if you will.If I play two notes it gets one.
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    Re:Rookie 2012/02/15 13:46:09 (permalink)
    Are you listening with a softsynth inside MC6? If so check to see if you selected a synth patch that is polyphonic. Some patches emulate the old analog synths and only playback monophonic. If this is the case, then you can only play one note at a time. If you have choosen a polyphonic synth and occasionally the notes don't play back, some synths like the TTS-1 (which handle multiple midi tracks) have a control to set the polyphony limit. I believe TTS-1 defaults to 48, but can be set to track up to 128.

    OTOH, it could also be that the latency of your sound card/interface is not keeping up with the midi stream and dropping notes. If you are using the built in sound card on your computer, it may be time to look into purchasing a pro-sumer sound card. If you already are using a decent sound card then you may have to change the parameters of the card to cope with the latency.

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    Re:Rookie 2012/02/15 14:17:33 (permalink)
    Not sure I selected anything.I have a lot to learn.Alright another step to get to where I'm going thanks.
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    Re:Rookie 2012/02/15 15:38:06 (permalink)
    one of the big problems that face newbies is the sound card in the computer you are using is not very cakewalk friendly.  It can not handle the load that cake puts on it especially with midi and a synth..... so it drops notes that it can not process quickly enough. 

    If the notes are being recorded into the midi track but not getting played back, that could very well be the problem. 

    What driver are you using? You should probably be using the MME driver. Perhaps you can download the free ASIO4ALL and try it to see if it does any better for you. 

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    Re:Rookie 2012/02/15 15:44:48 (permalink)
    A common cause of randomly skipped MIDI-notes is too low MIDI-preparation buffer (Setting under "MIDI-buffers..prepare using..."). You can double that from the default 256 (?) and it should help.

    Then again: I've never used MC, so I can't be sure that setting is there in Options-dialogue.

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    Re:Rookie 2012/02/15 16:30:39 (permalink)
    The dude at besy buy recomended the cpu I bought.Exactly what you said is what's happening it's getting recorded ,but not all the notes are playing back.Sucks.Using MME.I'll check it out.Thanks.
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    Re:Rookie 2012/02/15 20:36:00 (permalink)
    With all due respect to the idiots experts salesclerks at Best Buy...... they don't have a clue when it comes to specifying sound cards for recording. 

    We've been doing this personally for many years... (4+ for me) and several others here were here way before me...... we have seen this many times. The solution is a USB based external interface by M-Audio or Focusrite, or one of the other fine companies that make audio gear. Do not go to BB to buy an audio card for recording. Sam Ash or Guitar Center are OK and recommended. 

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    Re:Rookie 2012/02/16 10:09:42 (permalink)
    check my website for soundcard recommendations.

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    Re:Rookie 2012/03/27 17:17:57 (permalink)
    I'm back......I have my instrumentals now I need vocals anyone know how to record vocals?
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    Re:Rookie 2012/03/27 18:06:01 (permalink)
    In tune! mostly!


    Select an audio track, arm it by clicking the arm button on the track, Select the input the mike is attached to on the track, and hit record in the transport!
     
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    Re:Rookie 2012/04/02 18:59:14 (permalink)
    I don't have an internal mic that I was trying to use.I'm in the MIDI template.If I go to the normal template it automatically lets me use the internal mic,but not in Midi aswell if I'm in a normal template my Midi don't work?One more thing it's not letting me burn the audio to a cd?
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    Re:Rookie 2012/04/02 20:14:19 (permalink)
    Yeah... you don't want to use the internal mic. 

    Did you buy an external interface that handles audio or mid or both? 

    You would plug the mic into the interface, the interface will show up in the audio inputs available list.... 


    On the burning to disk.... first you mix it....adjusting levels and all that other stuff that makes it sound good, then you export is as a wave file.....THEN, you can use any of a number of programs to burn a playable audio CD. 

    I happen to use the Dell Roxio Creator to burn my disks. 

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    Re:Rookie 2012/04/02 20:43:14 (permalink)
    Templates just provide initial tracks and busses.  You can insert an audio track (or lots of audio and additional MIDI tracks) into a project that you start with the midi template.
     
    Just like your MIDI track, an audio track needs to have an input and an output set.  You should be able to select your internal microphone as the input to an audio track and the output to your sound card.  You need to arm the audio track to record audio on it and press the transport record button to start recording.
     
    While your internal microphone might be OK for initial experiments, I think you are going to want to find a real mic for recording anything.  Check out Beagle's web site for information on interfaces to connect a better mic to your computer.
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