Room Accoustic Correction Systems

Hi all

I am about to buy a set of the Mackie MR8s or a set of KRK Rokit RP8 G2 Monitors I havent decided what ones yet.

I have no way of doing any accoustic treatment to my small room I am working in so I have heard that useing room correction equipment might be the way to go ?

I have no Idea what to be loking at so though some of you could point me in the right direction ?

Thanks for all help and advice in advance :)

Norrie

Follow gustabo's link and you'll see that the subject has been kicked around before, perhaps to death.

I can save you some reading time and summarize:

1. Room correction is a partial fix and best applied AFTER acoustical treatment as the finishing touch.

2. If you can only do one or the other, acoustical treatment is the bigger bang for the buck.

3. Room correction is not snake oil, but it is also NOT a substitute for acoustical treatment.

Thanks for the replys.

Tarsier......

To begin with the problem being for my room is that it has no accoustic treatment in it at all! So I will not have a true sound

Everything is sounding so different when taken and played on a hifi or car sterio etc.....

I am unable to treat the room because its not mine and I will be moveing to a different location in  around 6 months time

Once I then move to the new location I can then put as much accoustic treatment in as I like then use a plug like the ARC to fine tune the room once I have finished treating it.

Untill then I was hopeing to find something like the ARC plugin or the KRK Ergo also I have seen the JBl MSC1   http://www.jblpro.com/MSC1/MSC1_Overview.html

I have heard good things about the ARC and the KRK Ergo but I havnet heard any one say anything about the JBL MSC1 although it is half the price of the KRK Ergo Its also not a plug in and I like that fact.

I know none of the above will give me anywhere neer as good a result as a full accoustic treatment but as I said above untill I get my new place I cant do anything about that ;(

I am trying to make the most of a bad situation

Thanks to all for any info on any of the systems

Norrie

I've got the JBL MSC1 and have been running it for about 6 months now.  But I've yet to run the room mode correction routines.  I'm sure I will before I mix and master my latest noodlins but just looking at the instructions gives me the willys.  I was hoping (I'm a dreamy sort, ya know) that it would just be hook up the little mic thingy...click on start...click on finished...turn the dang thing on.  Nope.  You actually have to DO STUFF and unplug and replug CABLES and such.  And it takes TIME!!  I am looking forward to actually doing it tho.  Optimist that I am.

Achieving true sound, IMHO, is not only treatment and correction. It also takes training your ears. When I was a touring monitor engineer, it didn't happen overnight, I learned, learned and learned until I was "top of my class". Of course having flat monitors, treatment and correction helps but most people don't know what "a good/flat mix" sounds like. Listening to commercially produced music similar to yours through your mons helps to train your ears.
Just my 2 cents worth.

Thanks for the replys guys !

Yorolpal ! How are you finding the JBL Msc1 ? I am confused you said you have been runing it for 6 months but not yet done the room correction?
Has it another use other than Room correction that I havent seen ?

I cant get the videos on there site to load propperly to have a good look.

If its as good as it says on the tin I will be going for it!
Its half the price of the KRK ERGO so would be interesting to see how it stands agains that one.

Gustabo!
How you doing man! You would be just the man for me to ask about the ARC system then !
I am tempted to go with this only thing is its a plug in and I was hopeing to stay away from that.

You will be able to answer this for me then can you run it of of every buss runing to the monitors or do you have to send the bus outs to the master then just have one instance of ARC runing ?

Like I said I know this isnt the Idea solution and wont work wonders for a room wth no treatment but it has to be better than nothing ? And on the plus side I will stall have what ever I buy to use when I have the new place with full accoustic treatment!

THanks again for all the help so far guys!

Norrie

Yeah I had noticed that in the other thread about always haveing to turn it off before bouncing down

Sometimes I like to have my drum buss Comeing out on its own and everything else out the master.

It really depends on what I am doing in the final stages.

Is that possible then to load 2 instances of the plugin ?

Norrie


Is that possible then to load 2 instances of the plugin ?

Never had bothered to try but I don't see why not.

Norrie



I am likeing the sound of the Arc more and more now I had just hoped not for a plug in.

Why is that a problem? Just curious.

OK, just created 10 busses, sent them all to my mons, inserted ARC on all the busses and no problems and cpu barely registered.
(Your mileage may vary)

Another thing that I like is that it allows for multiple speaker profiles.

I have ARC'd my Alesis Monitor One's, my Prodipe Ribbon 8's and my cheap *ss computer speakers so I can select a different correction profile based on what I'm monitoring through.

I would rummage through the thread I directed you to and maybe try to contact a couple of people that bought ARC and see what their take is on it after months of using it. I DO NOT want you to purchase it because of me.

I have only been using it since July of this year.

No problems

IMHO, coupled with proper treatment, I think it does a great job.