Routing instrument tracks

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2017/03/16 04:41:04 (permalink)

Routing instrument tracks

Apologies if this double posted: I edited the post and it seems to have disappeared when I saved it.
 
This seems like it must be something simple, but I can't figure out how to do this.
 
I recorded a softsynth instrument track tonight.  Electric Piano (Lounge Lizard).  I decided I'd like to create a layer with another softsynth, so I cloned the track.  This did not create a second softsynth(expected), so I inserted another softsynth(FM8).  I tried to rewire the cloned track 2 to route midi to FM8 by going into the track options with track two selected and selected FM8 for MIDI output using the dropdown menu there.  So far so good - it seems like FM8 is now being triggered by the events in Track 2.  At least: now I hear both LoungeLizard and FM8 playing the same notes.  A few mutes later, I realize that Track 1 is now routing to nothing (it's silent) and Track 2 is somehow triggering both LoungeLizard and FM8, and the volume controls on Track 2 are likewise controlling both synths.
 
I have no idea how this happened, and I have no idea how to see what the state of the routing is within the instrument tracks (??) ...
 
I wound up in a state where the routing is unclear and couldn't figure out what to do (copout: I realize I could probably just split to audio/midi tracks and see this, but it seems odd to have to split and recombine just to adjust routing).  Did I miss a control somewhere or is this the tradeoff for the simplified instrument tracks?
 
To be more concise:
1. How should I go about layering a few softsynths from one track's midi events?  (clone & reroute copy OR insert new and copy track events OR ??)
2. How do you examine or change the routing on an existing clip/track to go to a different softsynth?
 

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    rejonzin
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    Re: Routing instrument tracks 2017/03/16 05:00:11 (permalink)
    Don't clone, add midi track then copy data.

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    Re: Routing instrument tracks 2017/03/16 13:46:42 (permalink)
    rejonzin
    Don't clone, add midi track then copy data.

    What he said. I tried cloning an instrument track recently and things got pretty weird - maybe there is a "right way" but copying the data to a new track works as you would expect.

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    Re: Routing instrument tracks 2017/03/16 18:10:59 (permalink)
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    rejonzin
    Don't clone, add midi track then copy data.

    What he said. I tried cloning an instrument track recently and things got pretty weird - maybe there is a "right way" but copying the data to a new track works as you would expect.



    Yeah - I'll change my workflow, but I sure would like to understand how to tell what's happening with the routing.

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    Re: Routing instrument tracks 2017/03/16 18:31:15 (permalink)
    This is why I never use the instrument tracks. I always keep my midi tracks separate. 
    Then it's real easy to experiment with different VST's and copy/paste if extra tracks are used. 
     
    A feature request that would be handy is being able to add outputs to a midi track, just like we can add effects sends. 

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