Rude behaviour in PRV - or User Error?

Hi all,
a very basic question:
 
Win7 - x64, Sonar X2 Producer...
 
I activate snap in PRV (at least I try to), but I can't see any snapping
taking place when I click on the timeline. I set snap to e.g. 'Whole', meaning a
full bar, but I can move the 'Now' time to anywhere I want it by clicking on the timeline.
 
I want it to snap to full bars, but it's just not not happening.
 
I need schoolin', I'm not foolin'.
 
I think 'stumped' is the word....
 

AFAIK, the PRV's snap setting works only for moving/ resizing notes. 

But you can press Ctrl + Page Up/Down to move the Now time to the prev/next measure. I just learned that from FastBikerBoy's video tutorial.

Well, I admit I don't know where to turn 'Global Snap' on/off, but I've tried
the N shortcut, the Shift + N shortcut, and it didn't make any difference.

I can still place the Now time anywhere in the timeline.

So, if I copy a full bar, and I want to paste it into a new bar, I want it to land exactly 
at  the beginning of that bar, but there's no way to put the the Now time to the EXACT 
right position.

So the pasted copy starts from a random position.....

I know I'm overlooking something here,
hope someone can come up with the magic word...

izwun

 Scott's right, as per usual. Just tried it successfully.

Looking foward to X2 Power, Scott.

Thanks, Zenas! I'm hard at work on the book. 


Scott

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rasmus II

Oh,
by the way, intensity set to EXTREME.

Okay, instead of fooling with the PRV snap settings for now, just turn them off.


When you do that, the PRV will following the global snap settings. You can set the global snap via the Snap Module in the Control Bar. Be sure to read the SONAR quick start guide that you should have received with the software. It will give you the basics of where to find things in the SONAR inteface.


Scott

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Scott - I don't know if this is a setting I need to learn or whether this is a bug.

About 50% of the time, my Snap settings in the PRV look like this:







The other 50% of the time I don't get the box on the left displaying the snap time - I just get the grid on the right


Any idea?

Bristol_Jonesey


Scott - I don't know if this is a setting I need to learn or whether this is a bug.

About 50% of the time, my Snap settings in the PRV look like this:

The other 50% of the time I don't get the box on the left displaying the snap time - I just get the grid on the right


Any idea?

 
I know I'm not Scott but my name does start with an "S" so I feel safe to answer...
 
Just click the grid box you see and the rest will pop out for you.
Click it again and they disappear.
 
They will turn faded blue if the Control Bar Snap is OFF.
 
Would be better maybe if they were there all the time. I'm not sure why you'd want to hide them anyway.
  
 
Steve
 
 
Surprisingly I've not had any issues with snap in X2. It's been working as expected so far.

I suspect there's a bit of an intermittent bug going on with the snap grid in the PRV. I've seen numerous mentions that it doesn't work unless the PRV snap is on.

It most definitely should work with the PRV snap off, the PRV snap is an additional snap that as Scott pointed out needs the global snap to be on to work. It's an over ride setting not an independent one.

I can't say I've seen it though. It snaps to the ruler okay here on the global snap alone.

That's definitely weird. When you click the grid, those other controls should reveal themselves by sliding out. And they should stay that way until you click the grid again.

Scott

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It seems the PRV snaps are an "override" as mentioned, so you can have a different snap-to setting there. But this is only when global snap is ON. If global snap is OFF then all snaps are OFF, thus the term "global".
 
 
Steve

Bristol_Jonesey


Well this is odd.

I've definitely clicked on the grid before, but it just switches the grid on/off. The only way to change the Snap Settings is by right clicking the grid. 

This happens irrespective of whether Global Snap is on or off.

But it's not consistent.

I have no right-clicking function for the PRV grid. Something's goofy with your system.
 
 
Steve

Hi soens,
appreciate your tip 'hitting ctrl+alt+V' to get solid ground
under your feet when you feel things are getting fishy.

Very useful.

I'll let you people continue with the finer details... 

scook

Maybe I did not explain the functionality correctly. If a menu option is selected the menu stays open until the grid is clicked. When no options are selected or the selections are cleared, the menu is timed to disappear.

Ah ha! Yes, that's what's going on. I see what you mean now. 

Although, I think just leaving the options visible would be better. You can already see whether or not they're activated, so why bother hiding anything? Anyway, I digress...

Scott

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Definitely working very hard to make the book as detailed as possible.

Thanks, Steve!

Scott

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