ASG
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Running recorded tracks back through a hardware channel strip?
Im assuming this is the same concept as using midi to control a hardware keyboard, I would send the recorded track out to the channelstrip then back into my interface right? If I want to try this on midi, would i have to export it into audio and then load it back into the project as a wav file, or would it work fine as a regular midi track?
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Re:Running recorded tracks back through a hardware channel strip?
2012/05/03 06:23:06
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Midi isn't audio - it's just data. But you could still run the associated audio track out and back in again, though you would need to capture that as recorded audio at some point, so you might be wise to freeze your synth before you start.
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Re:Running recorded tracks back through a hardware channel strip?
2012/05/03 10:30:56
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Yes, midi has to be converted to audio before an analog strip can affect it. @
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Re:Running recorded tracks back through a hardware channel strip?
2012/05/03 15:32:23
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so if ive already got a track recorded and i want to run it through hardware i have to record another track of that original track as its going through the channel strip? Also i understand that midi is data but im asking will freezing the midi track work or will it have to be exported from the project and re imported as audio?
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Re:Running recorded tracks back through a hardware channel strip?
2012/05/03 18:48:08
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Once it is audio you can, of course. It is just like any other audio. I freeze my midi, copy and paste it. Then I unfreeze the midi track (so it is midi again) and archive it in case I need to edit the thing. @
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Re:Running recorded tracks back through a hardware channel strip?
2012/05/03 19:49:15
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This may be a bit beyond where your at recording wise, But if you re-amp..........an audo track.................basically send audio out of the box for processing then bring it back in. Depending on your DAW software and how your set up, your gonna want to run a loop back test on that signal. Basically calculate the round trip latency on that signal chain. Then you can nudge the audio back to a place of being somewhat sample accurate. It may or may not matter to you that much, just thowing it out there Good Luck.
post edited by zungle - 2012/05/03 19:52:51
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Re:Running recorded tracks back through a hardware channel strip?
2012/05/03 21:32:16
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First one must ask why you are wishing to do this? And do you have a proper audio interface? How many outputs does it have? Are you just wishing to process the MIDI generated track somehow?
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Re:Running recorded tracks back through a hardware channel strip?
2012/05/04 01:24:51
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Thanks for responses. Alright so here's why: Im picking up a 737 at the end of the month that i want to use on a ksm44 i just ordered. I've spectated the avalon aloooot and personally really enjoy its compresor and eq. I find them to be very powerful, and very pleasing to my ear, and If i can put that kind of power behind my other tracks besides vocals, that would make me a happy camper. I MOSTLY work with midi, which i enjoy but have never really been satisfied with the sonitus bundle. Thats probably cause i use processed radio ready drum samples, so its hard to get my other tracks to keep up with that using just a basic software fx bundle
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Re:Running recorded tracks back through a hardware channel strip?
2012/05/04 01:26:54
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So my point is i would be more than willing to take the time and bounce all of my midi work in to audio if that would make me able to run them through the avalon.
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Re:Running recorded tracks back through a hardware channel strip?
2012/05/04 14:53:16
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ASG, like I said, you can just freeze the track and use that audio to stem out and record back in. Then unfreeze and archive the midi, which takes it out of the CPU strain but you have your original midi tracks to edit if need be. Keep the audio. I do this midi soft synth whether or not I'm sending it out for analog processing (stereo comp/limiter, RND channel strip, Roland chorus echo, etc. @
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Re:Running recorded tracks back through a hardware channel strip?
2012/05/04 15:16:36
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Well if I new what da heck a ksm44 was I might help, I do know what a 737 is but seems it be a little large for my own place.
post edited by sock monkey - 2012/05/04 15:17:51
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Re:Running recorded tracks back through a hardware channel strip?
2012/05/04 17:03:12
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737 is an avalon tube strip. It is also a plane. Probably a lot of other stuff, too. @
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Re:Running recorded tracks back through a hardware channel strip?
2012/05/04 17:19:37
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Ha my bad Sock monkey avalon 737 is the channel strip ive been having wet dreams about. ksm44 is a mic made by shure that im also very fond of. Thankyou AT for telling me about that, i run alot of omnisphere and trilian so anything i can do to save cpu is a done deal. Also i forgot to mention im using a focusrite saffire. I'VE BEEN TOLD, that my converters are more than enough until i feellike dropping mad money on some quality ones, and obviously since im picking up the avalon im not concerned with the pres. So AT in your experience do you find analog processing results to be much more pleasing than software effects?
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Re:Running recorded tracks back through a hardware channel strip?
2012/05/05 06:45:18
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In addition to the Track Freeze function, you also have the option just to freeze the synth. This creates an audio wave, mutes & disconnects the synth (thus freeing up resources), and you have the choice of options to apply to the freeze - Fx etc. I find this much easier 7 quicker than freezing tracks, and by choosing not to include Fx with the freeze, I retain total control over what's in the rendered wav.
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