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[SOLVED] An easier way to duplicate a clip that does not start at the beginning of bar?
A basic operation doubt: in Track View, if I have a clip that starts, for example, in 1:03:123 and I want to duplicate it so it also appears in 1:04:123, or 5:03:123. What is the easiest way?
post edited by rogeriodec - 2017/04/14 02:47:22
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Re: An easier way to duplicate a clip that does not start at the beginning of the bar?
2017/04/13 22:05:05
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☼ Best Answerby rogeriodec 2017/04/14 02:42:22
Hi. You could turn snap to "move by", and Ctrl+drag to new location.
All the best.
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Re: An easier way to duplicate a clip that does not start at the beginning of the bar?
2017/04/13 22:48:40
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What about the "Go To Time" feature. I have this mapped to keyboard command "G"
. . . so you select the clip, then use "Shift-G" to snap to the beginning of that clip, Ctrl-C Copy the clip to clipboard, then click "G" (Go to Time) . . . and edit the event time to the exact location, then Ctrl-V Paste the clip to that new time.
In your example "Shift-G" would snap to 1:03:123 . . . and you would only have to edit the first digits of the "Go To Time" before Pasting the clip to the new time.
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Re: An easier way to duplicate a clip that does not start at the beginning of the bar?
2017/04/14 00:17:23
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Maybe I'm not understanding the question, but I generally just grab the beginning and end of a clip and drag/snap it to the nearest bar. this does not move the timing of the data inside the clip. I can then paste the clip at the new location, right on the bar, and the data inside lines up where it should.
For example, if you data starts at 1:04:123, I drag the start to 1:04:000 and the end to 5:04:000. Now I have a 4 bar loop that I can paste where I want.
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Re: An easier way to duplicate a clip that does not start at the beginning of the bar?
2017/04/14 00:42:38
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All of the methods mentioned so far work well and are useful in particular crcumstance. Changing to 'snap by' as described by Ken would be the one I use most. Another is with the track in question selected, set snap to whole bar and select the entire bar range on the timeline ruler then copy and paste. This is also useful if the selection to be copied involves more than one track.
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Re: An easier way to duplicate a clip that does not start at the beginning of the bar?
2017/04/14 00:43:56
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davec69
Maybe I'm not understanding the question, but I generally just grab the beginning and end of a clip and drag/snap it to the nearest bar. this does not move the timing of the data inside the clip. I can then paste the clip at the new location, right on the bar, and the data inside lines up where it should.
For example, if you data starts at 1:04:123, I drag the start to 1:04:000 and the end to 5:04:000. Now I have a 4 bar loop that I can paste where I want.
This is how I do it too but I think there's a key modifier that will lock the copy to the original clip's start time during the drag/copy, just never remember what it is.
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Re: An easier way to duplicate a clip that does not start at the beginning of the bar?
2017/04/14 01:04:19
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"Move By" is your best friend. I use it almost exclusively.
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Re: An easier way to duplicate a clip that does not start at the beginning of the bar?
2017/04/14 01:36:54
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kevinwal
This is how I do it too but I think there's a key modifier that will lock the copy to the original clip's start time during the drag/copy, just never remember what it is.
Are you thinking of holding Shift while you drag the clip? If you hold Shift while moving a clip to a new track or take lane it will snap to the horizontal position.
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Re: An easier way to duplicate a clip that does not start at the beginning of the bar?
2017/04/14 01:53:22
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I this case I always use NUDGE function and I move clips all the time. Let say your project meter is 4/4 and clock is set to 48 then 192 ticks is equal to one measure. (Number of ticks is different for different meter and clock settings).
1. Copy clip to an empty track
2. Set NUDGE 1(press 5, or go to Preferences) to "measure" or 192 ticks, or 96 for half measure, or 768 tick for four measures, etc, depending where you want to put your clip
3. Highlight clip, move it (Nudge) with left with "1" and or right with "3" keys
4. Put the clip back to original track with Nudge up or down (keys "2" and "8), or SHIFT mouse.
Obviously you can do it all in original track, without copying to an empty track, but just find it safer that way.
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Re: An easier way to duplicate a clip that does not start at the beginning of the bar?
2017/04/14 02:15:46
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"Move By" is your best friend. I use it almost exclusively.
I don't see "Move" neither in EDIT nor PROCESS nor clip menu. Do you mean drag with Snap set to "by" ?
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Re: An easier way to duplicate a clip that does not start at the beginning of the bar?
2017/04/14 02:45:36
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Zargg
Hi. You could turn snap to "move by", and Ctrl+drag to new location.
All the best.
Finally I understood what "Snap By" is, because I always used the "Snap To". Thank you very much Zargg!
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Re: [SOLVED] An easier way to duplicate a clip that does not start at the beginning of bar
2017/04/14 03:01:21
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A basic operation doubt: in Track View, if I have a clip that starts, for example, in 1:03:123 and I want to duplicate it so it also appears in 1:04:123, or 5:03:123.
What is the easiest way?
I do this all the time. It takes two seconds after you get the idea. 1. Decide what you want to move, copy, delete etc. That means - do you just want a clip or you want to move an entire section of a song? Like copy the whole verse one to insert in as a verse two. If you just want a clip or clips you should think "track" or "tracks" and if you want a whole section you should think "all tracks". Then consider from when to when. For example, copy from 1:04:123 to 5:04:123 ( four measures, but a non clean start time). Meaning in this case you want 4 measures of stuff (a clip or a whole section of the song) to copy to some location elsewhere in the song. 2. Example: you want to copy a portion of a clip from 1:04:123 (end time say 3:04:123, aka just 2 measures of the clip) to a starting point of 5:03:123. So you want to copy 2 measures and put it 4 measures further in the timeline. 3. To do the above: a. Select the whole clip or the whole track. Make sure it's highlighted as selected. b. under the Edit menu choose Select By Time. c. For Start Time put 1:04:123. For End Time put 3:04:123. Click okay. Now you have surgically selected your clip and exactly what you want from the clip. d. Alt control C. ( Copy Special). This allows you to determine if you want anything more than just the events/audio. e. Alt control V (Paste Special). This allows you to specify exactly where you want to place the clip and on what track. Enter (for this example) 5:03:123. Voila the copy clip is where you want it! This explanation took a couple minutes to type, but actually doing it takes 2 seconds - especially after you've done it a couple times.
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Re: [SOLVED] An easier way to duplicate a clip that does not start at the beginning of bar
2017/04/14 03:11:22
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I do this all the time. It takes two seconds after you get the idea.
1. Decide what you want to move, copy, delete etc. That means - do you just want a clip or you want to move an entire section of a song? Like copy the whole verse one to insert in as a verse two. If you just want a clip or clips you should think "track" or "tracks" and if you want a whole section you should think "all tracks". Then consider from when to when. For example, copy from 1:04:123 to 5:04:123 ( four measures, but a non clean start time). Meaning in this case you want 4 measures of stuff (a clip or a whole section of the song) to copy to some location elsewhere in the song.
2. Example: you want to copy a portion of a clip from 1:04:123 (end time say 3:04:123, aka just 2 measures of the clip) to a starting point of 5:03:123. So you want to copy 2 measures and put it 4 measures further in the timeline.
3. To do the above:
a. Select the whole clip or the whole track. Make sure it's highlighted as selected.
b. under the Edit menu choose Select By Time.
c. For Start Time put 1:04:123. For End Time put 3:04:123. Click okay. Now you have surgically selected your clip and exactly what you want from the clip.
d. Alt control C. ( Copy Special). This allows you to determine if you want anything more than just the events/audio.
e. Alt control V (Paste Special). This allows you to specify exactly where you want to place the clip and on what track. Enter (for this example) 5:03:123. Voila the copy clip is where you want it!
This explanation took a couple minutes to type, but actually doing it takes 2 seconds - especially after you've done it a couple times.
Yeah, all of this, or simply... 1) Set Snap to "By" 2) Ctrl+Drag the clip to the desired location. 
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Re: [SOLVED] An easier way to duplicate a clip that does not start at the beginning of bar
2017/04/14 05:00:46
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Interesting mix of methods. The 'move by' is only going to work for exact-by-bar duplicates. I have 'select by time' mapped to a shortcut key, and then use it -- maybe this is why I don't think 'clip' for midi work, rather bars and beats in the track. The only thing using select by time: a copy-paste works fine, but a cut-paste operates differently: your selection will suddenly change on a cut (the begin and end points change to match the time of the first and last actual event in the selected range). Why this should be so is another of those sonar mysteries; it makes doing repeated work on the same selection very annoying and error prone.
So, select by time, copy (or copy special), set now time, change track if appropriate, and paste.
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Re: An easier way to duplicate a clip that does not start at the beginning of the bar?
2017/04/14 09:18:51
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Zargg
Hi. You could turn snap to "move by", and Ctrl+drag to new location.
All the best.
Finally I understood what "Snap By" is, because I always used the "Snap To".
Thank you very much Zargg!
You are very welcome  It's a great little feature that I use a lot.
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