Answered[SOLVED] Cluttered pianoroll view of midi track with take-lanes

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2016/03/26 15:26:38 (permalink)

[SOLVED] Cluttered pianoroll view of midi track with take-lanes

Hi fellow Sonarians,
I'm hoping someone experiencing the same issue I am might have a good workflow to reduce my stress-levels  
 
Situation:
on most of my recordings i use audio & midi.
Whenever I loop-record a certain section of a song on my midi keyboard i'll then want to keep 2 or 3 of the versions;
either for layering once rendered to (different synths) or because later on I might find the other take to fit better.
-> directly after recording I want to go into PV and edit any obvious mistakes.
 
Problem:
Now the problem is that in PV I see all notes of all layers displayed simultaniously (& on top of each other). This is extremely frustrating and makes it near impossible to edit. If I select a layer in TV before going to PV then in PV the selected notes will be highlighted, but as soon as you click elsewhere the selection is gone + it's just still painfull to have all notes visible....
As far as I know in PRV I can only select different tracks to be in view, but not select/deselect layers within a track?
 
What am I missing...AM I missing something ?
I really don't like moving each llayer to a different track (and then back again) just for the sake of editing.
How do you guys go about this.
What other ideas/methods are there to simplify. I think I must be overseeing something.
 
Thanks for your time,
Mat
 
 
Edit: Thread title updated & marked solved
post edited by M@ - 2016/03/27 17:25:56

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Re: Cluttered pianoroll view of midi track with layers - advice? 2016/03/27 12:05:54 (permalink)
Sorry, I don't know a solution because I don't use layers for MIDI. OK, I guess that is an answer, at least to the last part of your query.
 
My own method is to repeatedly rehearse a part until I can get it right most of the time, and then hit Record. If I mess it up beyond one or two easily-edited mistakes, then it's CTL-Z, rewind and repeat. It can be a time-consuming process, but there is a benefit: every time I play the part, muscle-memory gradually relieves me of the need to think about the mechanics and frees my brain to turn to expression and nuance. 


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Re: Cluttered pianoroll view of midi track with layers - advice? 2016/03/27 12:52:52 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby M@ 2016/03/27 17:27:48
The PRV is not lane aware. To work with a single lane, mute all the other clips and enable "Hide Muted Clips" in the PRV View menu.
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Re: Cluttered pianoroll view of midi track with layers - advice? 2016/03/27 13:00:49 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby M@ 2016/03/27 17:27:53

 
Sorry, I thought you said "Hi fellow Sontarans". 
 
When you say "layers", I assume you mean "take lanes". Check out this tip by Beepster!
 
Edit: What scook said. He beat me to it. Beepster's post has the complete step-by-step.
 
http://forum.cakewalk.com...oll-View-m2961559.aspx

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Re: Cluttered pianoroll view of midi track with layers - advice? 2016/03/27 17:07:47 (permalink)
Awesome, awesome! Mat says thankyou!
 
Bit; that's what I do when I'm playing/recording a very specific part to a song. However for the scenario mentioned it's mostly finding new idea's or just jamming along (and wanting to keep them in the take-lanes)
 
Thanks a lot Scook & TheMaartian (& Beepster)-> I guess that is the solution I was looking for.
Can't wait to try it out. Hopefully I'll find some time in the next days...
 
However; to me it seems like a "bug"/ unexpected behaviour that when I have the take-lanes collapsed and open PRV for a selected clip/take that it shows all the notes of all takes in that track.
 
Could/should this be a feature request I wonder?  (I think I'll put an entry in if there isn't already)
Maybe the track selector within the PRV should also have a take-lane selector..... that would be the best way to handle this IMO. That way takes can be shown/edited independantly of them being muted or not.

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Re: Cluttered pianoroll view of midi track with layers - advice? 2016/03/27 17:23:25 (permalink)
It is not a bug, the PRV was designed to work with clips at the track level. I would bet there already is a feature request for a lane aware PRV. While I avoid using more than one lane for MIDI, comp mode along with the PRV mute clips setting would always only show the current comped take in the PRV.
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