[SOLVED] Dorchester Platinum update wants to set Sonar as default MID player

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2015/04/29 17:45:20 (permalink)

[SOLVED] Dorchester Platinum update wants to set Sonar as default MID player

I downloaded the Dorchester updates and now I keep getting a message that Sonar wants to set itself as the default .mid player.  I do not want Sonar as the default.  I have Windows Media Player set as default for .mid files. 
 
I keep denying the change but it keeps popping up. (I have BillP Studio's "WinPatrol" program that monitors all changes and alerts me).
 
The Sonar file that is trying to change the default .mid device is:
"SONARPLT.exe %1"
 
How do I delete Sonar's intrusion?  I hate ill behaving programs that try to set themselves to do something. 
 
 
 Well, I fixed it.  I rolled back to the previous version and then rebooted the PC.  No .mid request from Sonar.  I then reinstalled the Dorchester update.  NO .mid requests.   However, I had to do this on both Win 7 and Win 8.1
 
post edited by fireberd - 2015/04/30 13:40:42

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    Re: Dorchester Platinum update wants to set Sonar as default MID player 2015/04/30 06:19:31 (permalink)
    I installed the Dorchester update in my Win 8.1 system, to see if it was a Win 7 issue but its not.  It does the same thing in Win 8.1 so its definitely a Sonar problem. 
     
    I have opened a problem report to Cakewalk. CWBRN-32777
    post edited by fireberd - 2015/04/30 06:52:05

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    Re: Dorchester Platinum update wants to set Sonar as default MID player 2015/04/30 07:07:51 (permalink)
    fireberd
    I installed the Dorchester update in my Win 8.1 system, to see if it was a Win 7 issue but its not.  It does the same thing in Win 8.1 so its definitely a Sonar problem. 
     
    I have opened a problem report to Cakewalk. CWBRN-32777


    For now you should be able to select a midi file and right mouse and then select "open with" and then "choose default program" this should reapply the application you want midi to open with as the default. 
    post edited by rabeach - 2015/04/30 07:14:37
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    Re: Dorchester Platinum update wants to set Sonar as default MID player 2015/04/30 08:22:55 (permalink)
    I don't have a problem with association.  I just deny the change with Win Patrol and it remains my choice.  However, the program is still trying to change it and I get popups from Win Patrol that Sonar is trying to change it.
     
    Unless you have a program such as Win Patrol that monitors for any changes and notifies of the change request, you probably would not know its happening.  Or if the PC is only used for Sonar and nothing else it wouldn't make a difference.
     
    This has only started with the Dorchester update.  I've had Sonar since Version 7 and it has never happened before.
     
    post edited by fireberd - 2015/04/30 08:30:11

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    Re: Dorchester Platinum update wants to set Sonar as default MID player 2015/04/30 08:27:59 (permalink)
    Quick clarification on the above... you are saying that SONAR itself is trying to create file associations each time it loads? Or just during the installation of the Dorchester update?

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    Re: Dorchester Platinum update wants to set Sonar as default MID player 2015/04/30 09:15:22 (permalink)
    Is it possible that WinPatrol is just reporting that Sonar is registering itself as a .mid player? On my win 8.1 system wmp was associated with .mid before the update and it's still associated after the update. In other words on my system Sonar didn't change the file type association but just registered with windows that it can open .mid files.

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    Re: Dorchester Platinum update wants to set Sonar as default MID player 2015/04/30 09:20:47 (permalink)
    The message I've getting from Win Patrol is that it is trying to change the default from Windows Media Player to Sonar. 
     
    Sonar does not have to be running, I get pop ups from Win Patrol every couple of minutes that it is trying to change.

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    Re: Dorchester Platinum update wants to set Sonar as default MID player 2015/04/30 09:56:01 (permalink)
    Based on Steve's post (above yours) it may be a false alarm.  Is there a way (in Win Patrol) not to report that?  Surely if it's that incessant, there should be some sort of customize function to "turn it off".
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    Re: Dorchester Platinum update wants to set Sonar as default MID player 2015/04/30 10:06:18 (permalink)
    The Sonar Platinum.exe program is the one that is requesting it.  Win Patrol monitors for any system changes, such as a file type association and reports when another application is attempting to make a change.  And as I have previously posted if you do not have a program that monitors such as Win Patrol you wouldn't know it has happened, unless you had .mid set for some other program and checked the file associations.
     
    As I noted I have not had this in prior Sonar Versions (since V7) and ONLY since the Dorchester update.  It is happening in both Windows 7 and Windows 8.1.

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    Re: Dorchester Platinum update wants to set Sonar as default MID player 2015/04/30 10:21:02 (permalink)
    fireberd
    ....  And as I have previously posted if you do not have a program that monitors such as Win Patrol you wouldn't know it has happened, unless you had .mid set for some other program and checked the file associations.
     
    As I noted I have not had this in prior Sonar Versions (since V7) and ONLY since the Dorchester update.  It is happening in both Windows 7 and Windows 8.1.



    Did you not see the post above yours saying that he installed the Dorchester update and it did not change the file association?  He doesn't need Win Patrol to verify that.
     
    Have you actually checked to see if the file association has changed?  (You may need to "allow" the change).  It could still be a false alarm. 
     

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    Re: Dorchester Platinum update wants to set Sonar as default MID player 2015/04/30 10:47:54 (permalink)
    Can I clarify one point?
     
    You say "Sonar does not have to be running, I get pop ups from Win Patrol every couple of minutes that it is trying to change."
     
    How then can SONAR be requesting a change if it's not running?
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    Re: Dorchester Platinum update wants to set Sonar as default MID player 2015/04/30 10:50:53 (permalink)
    I'm not allowing the association to change.  Win Patrol pops up with the notice and I deny the change.  But a couple minutes later Sonar tries again and I get the pop up again.
     
    Its not a false alarm. 
     
    I'll wait and see what response I get from Cakewalk on my open report   CWBRN-32777.  I just opened it late last evening so it may be a day or so before I get a response.
     
     

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    Re: Dorchester Platinum update wants to set Sonar as default MID player 2015/04/30 10:53:34 (permalink)
    The report is that "Sonar Platinum" (SONARPLT.EXE %1) is trying to associate itself with the .mid file type.

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    Re: Dorchester Platinum update wants to set Sonar as default MID player 2015/04/30 12:57:54 (permalink)
    Try turning off automatic VST scanning. Just a hunch as you say it's trying to do it every few minutes.
    I would also give your system a FULL scan with a virus scanner AND Malwarebytes (check root kits as well in the settings), and you may also have another utility running which is conflicting...
     
    http://billpstudios.blogspot.co.uk/2007/09/don-change-my-file-type-associations.html
     
    I'd also try allowing it to see what happens. It might make the change and then it might get changed back.
     
    It could be a Sonar issue, but have to admit being rather sceptical about Win Patrol though ...
     
    post edited by Doktor Avalanche - 2015/04/30 13:04:14
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    Re: Dorchester Platinum update wants to set Sonar as default MID player 2015/04/30 13:29:16 (permalink)
    If Sonar is not running then I'm not understanding how it can request an association change.  I would think that if Sonar's exe file is making the request that it would have to be running to do that.
     
    I have never seen sonar's executable file run in my task manager unless I physically have opened it myself (or in the case of older versions where it wouldn't shut down if you still had a MIDI channel open, but that's a special case different from what the OP is describing).
     
    fireberd - I'm not trying to say you're wrong, but I would suggest that you search alternate means for the reason this is happening.  and it seems to be happening only to you since no one else can confirm it's happening to them. 

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    Re: Dorchester Platinum update wants to set Sonar as default MID player 2015/04/30 13:35:24 (permalink)
    Well, I fixed it.  I rolled back to the previous version and then rebooted the PC.  No .mid request from Sonar.  I then reinstalled the Dorchester update.  NO .mid requests.   However, I had to do this on both Win 7 and Win 8.1.
     
     

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    Re: Dorchester Platinum update wants to set Sonar as default MID player 2015/04/30 13:39:37 (permalink)
    @Beagle - Yes fireberd is not being clear here whether it's happening when Sonar is running or not. He says "Sonar does not have to be running" and yet he says SONARPLT.EXE %1 is trying to associate itself with the MIDI file. I hope he checks #14 regardless.
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    Re: Dorchester Platinum update wants to set Sonar as default MID player 2015/04/30 13:40:45 (permalink)
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    Well, I fixed it.  I rolled back to the previous version and then rebooted the PC.  No .mid request from Sonar.  I then reinstalled the Dorchester update.  NO .mid requests.   However, I had to do this on both Win 7 and Win 8.1.



    Seems a bit extreme, did you not try #14? Did you try letting it happen (you could have always changed it back). Regardless glad it's working for you.
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    Re: Dorchester Platinum update wants to set Sonar as default MID player 2015/04/30 13:47:58 (permalink)
    Well it appears he did do it:
    http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3214454
     
    It's really annoying having two threads about the same thing, it just splits the communication.
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    Re: Dorchester Platinum update wants to set Sonar as default MID player 2015/04/30 15:22:21 (permalink)
    I posted one of these in the Sonar forum section.   The other one was posted in the problem section.  The moderator must have moved it to the Sonar forum section and the reason both appear.   I didn't post two of the same in the Sonar Section.

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    Re: Dorchester Platinum update wants to set Sonar as default MID player 2015/04/30 18:20:12 (permalink)
    My comment wasn't forums specific, the end result is still the communication gets split and the left hand does not know what right hand is doing (we are asking the same questions that are already been answered in another thread that we never hear about). Nevermind.
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    Re: Dorchester Platinum update wants to set Sonar as default MID player 2015/05/01 08:29:28 (permalink)
    There are other "double posts" - in one forum section and in the problem reports area.  I have no idea why mine got moved. 
     
    As far as the fix, I will chalk it up to "Murphy's Law".  Murphy's Law says 1 plus 1 hardly ever equals 2.  LOL
     

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